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Other Local Resorts & Areas => Ovacik Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Denise40 on May 05, 2011, 11:53:40 AM
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Can anyone confirm or heard that NIG have abandoned their properties for the maintenance in Ovacik/Hisaronu, apparently they have not been pools and gardens, not paid for communal water and electric even though money has been sent to them. Have a friend who is worried as they are not answering calls or emails.
Thanks
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NGPS have taken over the property management side of the business. Try 'Janet@ng-ps.com'.
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NGPS took over last year from NIG and were very good, until this year when they have stolen water and pool pumps, of which I have experience!! Our complex had to get the Jandarma in to them.
I have heard they have done this on quite a few complexes (but don't take my word for it).
While I was there at the weekend I was told that Nicholas Homes had sold everything and were no more, both of their offices had gone!
NGPS office is still up in Ovacik and I was in there so I believe they are still operating, just mind!
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Our complex decided to change from NH last year after receiving poor service to another maintenance company. Only to find NH hadn't paid water or electric bills! It cost us as a complex approx £2500 to get the water and electric re-connected. And, we were not the only complex to suffer!!
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What NG and Nic Homes done was they paid our electric bills but they failed to tell us they had stolen the electric meter and put it down at Brooklands IV in Hisaronu during construction etc plus when we got our statement there was electric on it for the Pinar Restaurant! Well we got a bill in for over £5K communal electric for 5 apartments and one small villa, you can imagine everyones reaction...........needless to say we have now changed maintenance companies and are very happy with whom we have went with this year. It has been a nightmare with both Nic Homes and NG to be honest and I would certainly never recommend them, but that's just my personal opinion.
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Are any of you taking action to recover the money you had to pay from Nicholas Homes?
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Originally posted by Scunner
Are any of you taking action to recover the money you had to pay from Nicholas Homes?
You'd think that would be the answer but even with legal help I havent heard of anyone actually getting money from NGI. Owners on our site rented out their properties through NGI last year and havent been paid! They will TRY and pay them in 2 years! NG own 2 properties on our complex , didnt pay the complex maintenance last year, although they were occupied, and appear to not have any intention of contributing this year. Story is they have NO money to pay anyone with. In UK they'd be forced in to liquidation. Does Turkey not have a similar law, I know there is a debtors prison? It is a disgusting situation and has soured many owners experience.
NG-PS are a seperate company and I have to say, so far, are still doing an excellent job of our complex which looks brilliant
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We never paid the £5K and refuse to pay anything until NG-PS can give us definitive proof of the bills for our complex and not for everywhere else in Hisaronu!!
I agree with Hillside they done an excellent job last year with the complex, cleaning etc it was a much improved service far better than previous years, but again because of everything that has happened, I certainly wouldn't go again with them.
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God this is spooky, because NH on the face of it appear a legitimate solvent organisation, they pay a fortune on PR and then apparently they end up going "pear shaped"! I have a friend in work who did swear by them and when I purchased in Ovacik was tempted but, went with another Company, thank heavens by all account based on this thread!
Kevin
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I have a friend's cousin who is owed big time by Nicholas. Apparently Alan Swain dissolved their UK company last year, they do not own Nicholas Aymere or Grove or Park any more, or shopping carzi, or even the Heights now, someone from Azerbeyzan bought it and Nurettin is manager.
My friend's cousin bought into the Heights and this is fifth year, when they should receive the last payment of £10,000 back and the TAPU, don't know how they will go on because it has been sold earlier in the year! They have received 4 payments back of £10,000 each year, thus total payment for apartment would have been £50,000 and a TAPU, which now is up in the air.
By the way, Janet at NG-PS is Nurettin's IT Manager!
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Originally posted by jonesy
By the way, Janet at NG-PS is Nurettin's IT Manager!
She is also the Business Manager for NG-PS!
When I was in their office in ovacik last year Nurettin was in and they were saying that he had nothing to do with NG-PS anymore, well I for one think this was a 'white lie' and I believe he still is and has something to do with them, in whatever manner hence the reason for the nastiness we as a complex and others have received since deciding not to put up with their 'dealings' anymore!
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Check out: www.meantime.co.uk website, Testimonials:
Without the bespoke software Meantime developed for us we simply wouldn't be able to run the business.
Our unique web-based software means we can do so many things other property developers can't, and it is a major selling point for potential owners.
The amount of time Meantime's bespoke software has saved us is immeasurable, without it we'd need an army of people and a huge call centre to be able to carry out the number of functions it does.
Janet Schofield, IT business manager, Nicholas Group
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Hardy explains why people have been left in the lurch in regards grounds and pool maintenance nor does it explain what has happened to certain, electric meters!
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It doesn't explain anything at all, but spells out the 'connection/continued connection' between nicholas as was, and as is now.
There are quite a few people wanting words with Nurettin re electric meters and pool pumps and garden sunloungers too, which whilst upsetting, are a drop in the ocean to the people who have been stung by the Nicholas Heigts fiasco.
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What was/is the Nicholas Heights fiasco?
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Originally posted by jonesy
It doesn't explain anything at all, but spells out the 'connection/continued connection' between nicholas as was, and as is now.
There are quite a few people wanting words with Nurettin re electric meters and pool pumps and garden sunloungers too, which whilst upsetting, are a drop in the ocean to the people who have been stung by the Nicholas Heigts fiasco.
I have to say that myself and my neighbours on our complex were a little more than upset in fact we were furious not only had they stolen our pumps and electric meter but were also trying to 'con' us out of money that we didn't owe!!
Something seems to ring a bell with the Nicholas heights fiasco but i don't quite recall. Can someone enlighten us please.
We are really pleased now that we have our pumps back, electric meter sorted and have changed companies and I have to say they have been excellent and a lot cheaper 'so far'.
Plus we are one of the lucky ones who have got our tapus etc, which I know others haven't :(
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Nurettin is the brother of the mayor Keramettin Yilmaz.
I was given the offer to buy a part share in the apartments at Nicholas Heights which I did not take. Maybe some did and had their fingers burnt.[?]
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My understanding from friend's cousin:
5 years ago buy an apartment at Nicholas heights for £100,000 or £120,000. Each year you can have limited access (couple of week or so) plus receive back £10,000, on the fifth year get back the last £10,000 plus the tapu, so apartment has either cost you £70,000 or £50,000 and you then own it,
Problem: Nicholas Heights was sold by Nicholas in ...???January of this year, thus no last payment or tapu?
Six or so blocks of apartments X how many apartments in each block.
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Originally posted by jonesy
Check out: www.meantime.co.uk website, Testimonials:
Without the bespoke software Meantime developed for us we simply wouldn't be able to run the business.
Our unique web-based software means we can do so many things other property developers can't, and it is a major selling point for potential owners.
The amount of time Meantime's bespoke software has saved us is immeasurable, without it we'd need an army of people and a huge call centre to be able to carry out the number of functions it does.
Janet Schofield, IT business manager, Nicholas Group
Very interesting - but unfortunately it doesnt say when it was written. Janet Schofield was definately IT Business Manager until early 2010 when NGPS split from Nicholas Group Internation. Following Alan Swains departure from NGPS ( :)) late 10/early 11 NGPS split further [?]!! from NGI and now are nothing to do with them. I think this all adds to peoples distrust - you dont know who youre dealing with and who is actually behind the facade[:(!]
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Originally posted by jonesy
5 years ago buy an apartment at Nicholas heights for £100,000 or £120,000. Each year you can have limited access (couple of week or so) plus receive back £10,000, on the fifth year get back the last £10,000 plus the tapu, so apartment has either cost you £70,000 or £50,000 and you then own it
So you buy an apartment at a six figure over inflated price that you can't even use for 50 weeks of the year and you are promised your loan/overpayment to the developer back in stages over a number of years with the promise of your title deed at the end of it, even though you overpaid for it at the beginning.
Sounds like a proposition for looneys to consider to me, sorry.
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Scunner, totally agree with you on that one. At the time people were handing over all of this money must have believed that the apartment that they were buying was in excess of 100k. The 10k each year was rental from the remaining 50 weeks. So at the end of 5 years they had an apartment that was worth way in excess of 100k for the payment of 50k.It seems to be the only logical explanation. Most of us know that apartments in Hisaronu or Fethiye are not worth that amount of money.
So each purchaser had made a 100k unsecured loan to NIG and each are 60k plus interest out of pocket.
Alan Sugar is about to make a new series of the Apprentice. He should cancel it and hire the guy that sold these investments. I feel sorry for the people caught up in this but some of me asks had they left their brains at Dalaman airport. I could have understood they getting stung if it was a complicated transaction. From an investment point of view it does not really stack up.
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Didn't Kerametin Yilmaz have something to do with turning a childrens playground in Hisaronou into a 'Hellhole' for a couple of dolphins? As Nurettin is his brother - does this kind of rip off 'run in the family'?
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I wonder if they were given the heavy handed "timeshare" sell?
It always amazes me that people fall for these sales pitches which just do not stack up.
If it sounds too good to be true - it inevitably is! Be strong & just walk away!
Unfortunately amongst the majority of honest, decent Turkish people in Fethiye there are a few "ring" families who up front look all kosher & respectable... but if you get involved, have less morals & scruples than a sewer rat!
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I have gone with this company this year...to be honest we have a complex of 10 and only 7 have paid.....they still completed all the prep work and got the pool ready..... they clearly stated all money to be recieved bt 1/3/11 and this didnt happen but have given us a great tidy up and complex running well despite the 30% missing from the fees they understandibly require......I cant complain yet early days....fingers crossed...w ere all happy at this moment in time.
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hi i have just got back i needed some tiles sorting on my roof called in the office in the morning and they did the work in the afternoon also had some other small jobs done and they were very helpfull and they did the work when they said they would cleaned up afterwards and i am happy with the services they provide for me 8)
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us too.....after a rather "unsettling" time with them last year, they seem to have taken stock of their situation, and are going out of their way to ensure we are happy and content this season. So far no complaints. Was out at the complex in April, and was pleasantly surprised at the condition of the complex, and watched them prepping the pools for the season - which was a very impressive 2 days work for at least 8 workmen. fingers crossed the good work continues....
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Originally posted by jonesy
I have a friend's cousin who is owed big time by Nicholas. Apparently Alan Swain dissolved their UK company last year, they do not own Nicholas Aymere or Grove or Park any more, or shopping carzi, or even the Heights now, someone from Azerbeyzan bought it and Nurettin is manager.
My friend's cousin bought into the Heights and this is fifth year, when they should receive the last payment of £10,000 back and the TAPU, don't know how they will go on because it has been sold earlier in the year! They have received 4 payments back of £10,000 each year, thus total payment for apartment would have been £50,000 and a TAPU, which now is up in the air.
By the way, Janet at NG-PS is Nurettin's IT Manager!
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I talked with Nurettin on phone today and he told that they would pay back in 3-5 Months.
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Another mug !!!!
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Originally posted by Gina
Another mug !!!!
Do you know Nurettin Yilmaz and his brother?, is this people you can trust?
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Originally posted by Scunner
Are any of you taking action to recover the money you had to pay from Nicholas Homes?
Yes we are, we are in contact with Sule BEDER at Beder law office in Fethyie. We need to come in contact with other in the same situation. Please take contact by my email.
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Sule is a very competent and trustworthy lawyer. You did well to find her. Good luck. If anyone can sort this for you Sule can!
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Originally posted by jon.trostheim
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Originally posted by Scunner
Are any of you taking action to recover the money you had to pay from Nicholas Homes?
Yes we are, we are in contact with Sule BEDER at Beder law office in Fethyie. We need to come in contact with other in the same situation. Please take contact by my email.
I have today made contact with Sule, can you confirm if she is a lawyer worth using when taking on Nurettin Yilmaz and Nicholas Homes?. from my own experience anyone thinking of buying property in Turkey under no circumstances should you use any company that Nurettin Yilmaz or his brother Karemettin Yilmaz are involved with, like us you will lose an awful lot of your hard earned cash. He still owes us £33,000 and it's been going on for 2 years now.
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Originally posted by cheers
Didn't Kerametin Yilmaz have something to do with turning a childrens playground in Hisaronou into a 'Hellhole' for a couple of dolphins? As Nurettin is his brother - does this kind of rip off 'run in the family'?
Nurettin and his brother are probably the two biggest crocks in south west Turkey. Anyone thinking of buying in Turkey do not deal with Nicholas Homes or any other company they are connected to.
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Sule seems to have represented a lot of people against Nicholas Homes - and from what I have heard has been sucessful
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I know nothing about Nicholas Homes but a couple of months ago my wife and I engaged Sule to carry out a legal process with our new property in Tuzla.
Sule is a star, she's a professional, she's a Pearl.
If you will accept my advice (no commission involved) you will use her legal mind to solve your problems.
Pappi :) :)
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Originally posted by Pappi
I know nothing about Nicholas Homes but a couple of months ago my wife and I engaged Sule to carry out a legal process with our new property in Tuzla.
Sule is a star, she's a professional, she's a Pearl.
If you will accept my advice (no commission involved) you will use her legal mind to solve your problems.
Pappi :) :)
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#Thanks Papi,
I think I might just do that.
Thanks again.
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Borgie you are a newbie on here and the most recommended lawyer on here is Sule! She will not rip you off and is good at what she does. She was the lawyer involved with Misha & Tom the dolphins trapped in a hellhole in Hisaronou thanks to Keramettin Yilmaz! You are not the only person involved in this case and she is in contact with many people in your boat.
You are a newbie on here asking questions and wanting help and for me the top left hand side at the top of the page says it all!!
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we were warned about Nicholas homes when we were looking for property 7yrs ago
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Was told in Migros this morning that [gossip, speculation and b*llsh*t removed and only hard facts allowed to stay]
Edited by Scunner
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Well Migros is always a reliable source for news of people's demise isn't it! I am no fan of Nicholas Homes (for about 7 years now) but this topic seems to possibly be a landing point for first posters with a mission to simply say something to harm the company. I want to lock this topic but can we try first keeping it open and sticking to facts, not supermarket tittle tattle.
Also, if you are going to post on sensitive matters an introduction would be welcome.
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Oh, and were you really in Migros this morning? What with you being just outside Manchester this evening!!!