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Turkey Related Subjects => Turkey Discussion Forum (Not Calis specifically) => Topic started by: Colwyn on December 28, 2016, 10:05:03 AM

Title: Turkey, Russia & Syria
Post by: Colwyn on December 28, 2016, 10:05:03 AM
Can we dare to hope that there is a glimmer of hope for Syrians. Ankara and Moscow say they have agreed a plan to have a Syrian ceasefire to cover the whole country. This is due to start in 12 hours time (Wednesday midnight). If successful the next move would be to hold truce talks involving Syrian government and opposition groups but not "terror organizations" (i.e. ISIS and Kurdish groups).


http://aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/turkey-russia-agree-on-nationwide-syria-cease-fire-bid/715450
Title: Re: Turkey, Russia & Syria
Post by: Colwyn on December 29, 2016, 13:57:09 PM
False start last night. Now we are promised an agreed ceasefire at midnight tonight (I assume Syrian time, Turkish time minus 1 hour).
Title: Re: Turkey, Russia & Syria
Post by: JohnF on December 29, 2016, 14:48:26 PM
...and the cheques in the post and I promise I won't...

JF
Title: Re: Turkey, Russia & Syria
Post by: Colwyn on December 29, 2016, 14:53:52 PM
A failure in cock-eyed optimism there John. I take it you won't be getting your atlas out to check up where Astana is located.
Title: Re: Turkey, Russia & Syria
Post by: JohnF on December 29, 2016, 15:29:07 PM
No need whatsoever.  Friend been working there on and off over the past year or so.  She prefers Baghdad.

JF
Title: Re: Turkey, Russia & Syria
Post by: KKOB on December 29, 2016, 15:34:41 PM
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Title: Re: Turkey, Russia & Syria
Post by: Colwyn on December 29, 2016, 15:45:19 PM
Quote from: JohnF on December 29, 2016, 15:29:07 PM
No need whatsoever.  Friend been working there on and off over the past year or so.  She prefers Baghdad.

JF
I was offered a visiting post there three years ago and decided I preferred being quietly retired.
Title: Re: Turkey, Russia & Syria
Post by: Stopfordian on December 29, 2016, 17:02:08 PM

 Hopefully, if Ankara and Moscow can agree to disagree about who put the deal together, there seems to be a faint glimmer,,
Title: Re: Turkey, Russia & Syria
Post by: Colwyn on December 30, 2016, 17:54:22 PM
Reports suggest that the ceasefire is holding in most areas. Even a temporary and non-universal ceasefire is a blessing for a great many who desperately need aid from NGOs. Let's hope it keeps up a bit longer.
Title: Re: Turkey, Russia & Syria
Post by: Colwyn on January 06, 2017, 10:03:06 AM
Russian armed forces chief has announced Russia has started removing forces from Syria in view of the success of the ceasefire. It is starting by withdrawing its aircraft carrier and some other warships.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-38528654
Title: Re: Turkey, Russia & Syria
Post by: KKOB on January 06, 2017, 10:49:37 AM
Obviously the Ruskies have decided they can't afford to lose anymore planes since losing 2 in the Med after they ran out of fuel whilst trying to land on a carrier.  ;)
Title: Re: Turkey, Russia & Syria
Post by: Stuart T on January 06, 2017, 18:30:55 PM
I'm not clued up enough to offer a solution to this.

However, Frederick Forsyth proposed as follows; -

Partition.

an enclave in western Syria (Shia and Alawite) under Assad.

an enclave in Northern Syria alongside Turkey (Sunni).

an enclave in Southern Syria alongside Jordan (Sunni).


Citing previous partitions: -

Christian East Timor/Muslim Indonesia - no more violence

Bangladesh/West Pakistan - no more violence

Czech Republic/Slovakia - co-operating as members of the EU.

All former Yugoslav provinces now living in peace.

Better than endless war and terrorism?

Your thoughts.......?