Anti Turkish government protests in Istanbul

[Highlander]

Dutchie

Surely forum members are exercising the rights you wish for your daughter

"express her opinons when she wants".
 
Perhaps, on this ocassion they do not want to.

I suspect that many, many members have an opinion on the murder of Lee Rigby but they have decided not to express it on here 

[KKOB]

When you have nothing useful to say, say nothing. Charles Caleb Colton

[Dutchie]

I don't think that the murder of Lee Rigby is related to a forum about Calis/Turkey.

Apparently people are not speaking out because of fear what might happen to their residency permits and their properties.

In my opinion foreigners should fear for their rights/properties with the current government. It's a known fact that Erdogan doesn't want foreigners, that he doesn't want tourism, that he doesn't want alcohol, etc, etc.

He wants to turn Turkey into a religious state with the sharia instead of a constitution.

But maybe I'm wrong and are the members on this forum more concerned about Facebook and Efes than the current developments.

[stoop]

"I sincerely hope that this government will come to an end soon.
I have a daughter who will grow up in this country and I want her to be able to act in any way she wants.
Wear the clothes that she wants, speak her mind when she wants, express her opinons when she wants.
I don't want her to be silenced by a political party."

Then why move to a country where you have no vote and therefore no say in what happens?

[Dutchie]

Do I really have to defend myself for living here?

When I came here, 17 years ago, things were different.
A lot different.

I'm convinced that the Turkish people will not put up with Erdogan much longer.
And if that isn't the case, and if Turkey does turn into a religious state, I will be leaving.
But I will only do that as a last option. I don't want to uproot my daughter.
This is her land. She was born here and she is a Turkish citizen.

[stoop]

"Do I really have to defend myself for living here? "

No you don't! Just as those not posting do not.

[Dutchie]

You are asking me why I chose to live in a country in which I couldn't vote. A direct question in which I more or less have to "defend" myself otherwise I will look like a fool.

I feel like I'm the one on trial just because I expressed my surprise about this thread being so quiet.

That was a general question. I have not asked a single member why they haven't posted here so have not "attacked" anybody.

I was wondering whether people didn't realize what was/is going or whether they don't care. The idea that people weren't posting out of fear, hadn't even entered my mind.

[Bluwise]

But maybe I'm wrong and are the members on this forum more concerned about Facebook and Efes than the current developments.

I am very concerned about the current developments but feel without more knowledge I can only make the standard comments about how awful it is and how I wish the people of Turkey well - I didn't feel that particular sentiment justified a post in it's own right.  That doesn't mean I am not interested.  The opposite applies - I am busy reading about it, including other people's opinions, in order to try and form my own. 

[stoop]

Let's move on and get back on topic. No offence meant Dutchie  

We all want back the Turkey we fell in love with I think?

[Dutchie]

No offence taken.

It's just awful what has happened the last days. People have died and it hasn't been mentioned in the mainstream media. Censorship once more.

I hope that this will be the end and that Turkey will indeed return to the place it used to be.