Post by: Don on October 26, 2014, 13:10:17 PM
Yes it was Eddy who attacked my daughter’s boyfriend.
I haven’t named and shamed until now as we had to go to Uzumlu in October. This was pre-booked before the incident and I didn’t want any repercussions.
We have heard that Eddy is already spreading lies about what happened and it seems some people are believing him and are still using the bar, this is their prerogative. Some are saying they live there all year round and they can’t boycott every business that has dodgy owners and also they don’t know us personally so it doesn’t affect them. It is up to the individual to do what they feel is right but whatever Eddy is saying I can say with hand on heart that it is all untrue.
Eddy has previous form and I am sure people who know what he has done can provide details of his previous misdemeanours. But this won’t be his last; sometime down the line he will do something else. Next time it could be you or your family so please be warned.
Post by: RachaelP on October 26, 2014, 13:37:44 PM
Post by: Susiepink on October 26, 2014, 13:42:41 PM
Well done for having the courage to name and shame Don, hope your daughter and her boyfriend are ok.
Post by: laffa on October 26, 2014, 15:13:35 PM
Post by: rusty on October 26, 2014, 17:25:25 PM
Post by: tinkerman on October 27, 2014, 06:46:58 AM
If you are one of the people still frequenting this place, have a nice evening.
Post by: Menthol on October 27, 2014, 12:30:50 PM
I rarely visit Uzumlu but I will make sure that people are aware of the nature of this character.
It must be very unpleasant for the villagers to have such a blot on their landscape but if they have all the information and still make the wrong choice, then so be it.
Sometimes folk, when you smell smoke, there really is a fire.
Post by: bluegypsylou on October 31, 2014, 16:01:46 PM
I would just like to say that if you witnessed this alleged attack you are then in a position to comment and, as we all know, there are always two sides to a story. Here we have only heard one and some people, should they continue in this vein, may well find themselves in Court.
Post by: JohnF on October 31, 2014, 16:05:20 PM
JF
Post by: jsp51 on October 31, 2014, 17:01:19 PM
I have been about Uzumlu for 9 years now, I drink where I want, when I want and with whom I want. I have used on a regular basis most bars and sometimes I have had a few more than I should have done however
I have to say I never been verbally abused, clubbed over the head, stripped nearly naked or robbed.
If this sort of thing does go on, and I do think there may be a little dramatization in the original script then obviously that kind of behaviour is unacceptable.
But I find it very hard to contemplate that 2 people go out for an evening and are subject to violence for no reason, you have to ask yourself what went on. We heard in the original post that it was 3 in the morning, I would guess copious amounts of drink had been consumed, we heard that the boyfriend was getting stressed by something or other and that tensions were rising you have to ask what went on there?
I also fail to see anywhere in both threads that leads you, Don to say Eddy is spreading lies, how do you know he's lying. It could be your daughter not telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I appreciate you will always take your family's word and I don't blame one bit for that, but who's version of events IS the truth, maybe the courts will decide if it goes that way.
A few days prior to this incident, allegedly your daughters boyfriend had been seen behaving in an aggressive manor towards several customers in the bar accusing them of swapping his original designer sunglasses for a copy pair. If this is so, then maybe there is a little more that needs to be aired.
Post by: Scunner on October 31, 2014, 17:07:08 PM
I have watched this post and the original post (24 Sept) with interest. I do have to agree with bluegypsylou this has been very much a 1 sided thread.
If it is a one sided thread then that is because only people from 'one side" have posted - not because only one side has been allowed to.
Post by: jsp51 on October 31, 2014, 17:18:29 PM
Post by: Scunner on October 31, 2014, 18:17:00 PM
I never said that any post had not been allowed.
I never said that you said that any post had not been allowed. I was making a point of order, that any one sidedness was purely down to the nature of the posts contributed.
It is interesting however that you defend your chosen establishment and accuse others of not having seen what went on. Furthermore, it is quite disturbing that in your original post you imply that people who (allegedly) show aggression in this establishment shouldn't be surprised at what might happen - even though it may well be the case that what could have happened was getting beaten with a bat, stripped of their clothes and their possessions. Maybe you didn't mean that, but that is certainly the implication.
You feel it is extremely unlikely that the story is true or even credible - even though this is apparently certainly not a one off incident at this place.
I also find it incredible that in situations like this, people accuse others of talking when they didn't see what happened - judgemtal opinions, nearly always written by people who didn't see what happened but don't think that matters in their case.
Post by: Don on October 31, 2014, 18:24:04 PM
Post by: puma on October 31, 2014, 22:44:39 PM
Post by: LisaJ on November 01, 2014, 06:40:54 AM
Post by: Scunner on November 01, 2014, 09:11:04 AM
If you read the original topic you will see what was taken from him as he lay beaten, and you will see no mention of passport. Here it is for you:
he was battered across the back of his head causing a gash that needed 12 stiches, the friends then joined in kicking and stripping him of his shorts, which had his wallet containing 350TL, £140 credit cards and driving licence and iphone.
http://www.calis-beach.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=56623.msg378940#msg378940
You'll certainly have to try harder than that to discredit the story.
Post by: Liz 101 on November 01, 2014, 09:54:33 AM
Post by: SteveJ on November 01, 2014, 11:02:50 AM
Post by: Scunner on November 01, 2014, 11:11:59 AM
Post by: SteveJ on November 01, 2014, 11:14:20 AM
Post by: LisaJ on November 01, 2014, 11:44:28 AM
Post by: Scunner on November 01, 2014, 11:45:54 AM
Post by: Scunner on November 01, 2014, 11:57:17 AM
Post by: jsp51 on November 01, 2014, 12:25:29 PM
I also said if the treatment handed out was as described that is not acceptable. I do however still have reservations as to the description of what happened that night, some things don't add up. I have read the original post again and the girlfriend hid behind a wall, she saw the owner get out of the car and hit her boyfriend with a bat or other instrument, she then saw the owners friends get out of the car she saw them kick him she saw them strip him of his clothes and the car drive off but she didn't see him get up and run away, this does not add up.
Also can I point out that Don was very quick to post on this forum a very disturbing message which is from his perspective only "hearsay" as he was not there. It would be very useful to everyone if he were so quick as to post the messages he has received recently which he discredits as lies. Again these messages will only be "hearsay" but might shed a bit of light on what did happen that night.
What makes you say I feel it is extremely unlikely that the story is true or even credible? when I said "If this sort of thing does go on, and I do think there may be a little dramatization in the original script then obviously that kind of behaviour is unacceptable." not quite the same as saying it is unlikely to be true, I am convinced something did go on that night, I'm sure everyone is of that opinion, it is what the root cause of it all that is unclear.
Again Don please give the story you are condemning as all lies and why you come to that conclusion.
Again let me reiterate I do not condone violence of any kind and stories like this are concerning but I'm afraid on this occasion someone's bad fortune is being used as a tool to try to wreck someone else's business, which by the way is not working.
Post by: Scunner on November 01, 2014, 12:39:43 PM
With things that we didn't see of course things may not add up entirely but that is because we weren't there and don't know every last part of the story.
For what it's worth I'll tell you what I think, and maybe you could comment on my opinion, rather than me commenting on yours - I would be genuinely interested to hear what you think of what I think.
I think that whilst I wasn't there, and don't know the whole 'ins and outs' you have to firstly decide whether you believed the attack and mugging of personal possessions happened. It would be incredible to me to think it didn't and it is a total fabrication. And that possibly all the other violent attacks reported from the same place were made up too.
I believe it happened. That is my prerogative. If you believe it happened, then questions about what happened earlier, or how people fly without passports are wholly irrelevant. If you believe these people were chased and the husband attacked and stripped of clothes and possession, there are no other questions necessary.
But that's just my view.
Post by: Scunner on November 01, 2014, 12:46:26 PM
I'm afraid on this occasion someone's bad fortune is being used as a tool to try to wreck someone else's business, which by the way is not working.
And that is the most outrageous line I have read on the subject to date - being attacked with a bat and mugged is "someone's bad fortune"? And the reporting of it is an attempt to wreck the business of the man who did it? Surely beating customers with baseball bats is the main reason for any bad publicity, not the reporting of it?
The instances of a 'bit of previous' don't exactly help either do they...
Post by: simpsons on November 01, 2014, 13:10:29 PM
By Eddies silence on this matter, we can only draw our conclusions, by only hearing one side of the story.
Post by: LisaJ on November 01, 2014, 14:59:04 PM
Post by: kevin3 on November 01, 2014, 16:20:13 PM
to the guys head as part of the "plot" to discredit Eddie and his disaster prone establishment.?
If you can defend that sort of behavior then you deserve to have Eddie as a "friend"
jsp51.
If you are neutral in this matter, how do you know that this "plot" to discredit his business
is not working,? I hope I never need cheap drinks that badly.
Post by: jsp51 on November 01, 2014, 16:42:35 PM
Scunner in reply to your questions, if you had read my last post properly you would have noticed I did say I was convinced something went on that night, so why ask me again?.
I did not say it was total fabrication, I don't think it is, however as I have said before some things don't add up.
I cannot comment on "all the other violent attacks" from this place as I am not sure what you mean, it would be helpful being as you have referred to all these attacks to list them and I could comment on them individually if I know anything about them.. I did hear of some goings on last year which were somewhat loosely along the same lines as this and I believe the courts cleared this establishment of any wrong doing, correct me please if I am wrong.
I never mentioned anything about flying without passports so cannot comment on this.
Again can I ask Don to tell everyone what Eddy is saying that he has condemned as lies it may help build up a picture.
Your quote again,
And that is the most outrageous line I have read on the subject to date - being attacked with a bat and mugged is "someone's bad fortune"? And the reporting of it is an attempt to wreck the business of the man who did it?
You have again misquoted me, I did not say ....to wreck the business of the man who did it.
I still feel Don could throw some light on this if he would only tell us what he heard.
Post by: KKOB on November 01, 2014, 16:48:10 PM
Post by: jsp51 on November 01, 2014, 16:54:01 PM
What I would like to know is that if Eddies 'friends' on here are trying to discredit this horrific robbery as lies, then why has none of them got Eddy to comment on here as to what went on that evening. If Eddie is not a member on here, then get one of his friends who is a member to post his side of the story.Could there be a court case being prepared? if so then it would be very foolish of him to make any comment especially on social media. Just a thought.
By Eddies silence on this matter, we can only draw our conclusions, by only hearing one side of the story.
Post by: jsp51 on November 01, 2014, 16:56:34 PM
Can any of Eddies friends tell me whether they think the hospital inserted 12 stitchesAs I am not privy to his financial situation I am guilty on this occasion of making an assumption, this assumption is based on the amount of people still using the bar.
to the guys head as part of the "plot" to discredit Eddie and his disaster prone establishment.?
If you can defend that sort of behavior then you deserve to have Eddie as a "friend"
jsp51.
If you are neutral in this matter, how do you know that this "plot" to discredit his business
is not working,? I hope I never need cheap drinks that badly.
Post by: Rimms on November 01, 2014, 17:02:49 PM
Post by: Scunner on November 01, 2014, 17:07:48 PM
Scunner in reply to your questions, if you had read my last post properly you would have noticed I did say I was convinced something went on that night, so why ask me again?
Once again, to keep to the correct facts...since your last post you mention I have not "asked you again", I asked you what you thought of my opinion.
I cannot comment on "all the other violent attacks" from this place as I am not sure what you mean, it would be helpful being as you have referred to all these attacks to list them and I could comment on them individually if I know anything about them
In other words, you do not recall any other violent attacks but may do if I can jog your memory? Could there have been violent attacks that you knew about but completely forgot? You either know about them or you don't - if you knew about them they aren't the sort of events that slip from one's memory!!
Post by: apollo on November 01, 2014, 17:08:04 PM
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQICVo4sNUokQ5n3KgUhEi3UTk7HMLc2_o5jTfbqXiwVNZsvstg)'tis better than telly.
Post by: Scunner on November 01, 2014, 17:10:21 PM
Post by: jsp51 on November 01, 2014, 17:19:01 PM
You are correct, I do not know of any other violent attacks except the alleged incident last year of which I am sure he was cleared by the courts.
Scunner in reply to your questions, if you had read my last post properly you would have noticed I did say I was convinced something went on that night, so why ask me again?
Once again, to keep to the correct facts...since your last post you mention I have not "asked you again", I asked you what you thought of my opinion.
I cannot comment on "all the other violent attacks" from this place as I am not sure what you mean, it would be helpful being as you have referred to all these attacks to list them and I could comment on them individually if I know anything about them
In other words, you do not recall any other violent attacks but may do if I can jog your memory? Could there have been violent attacks that you knew about but completely forgot? You either know about them or you don't - if you knew about them they aren't the sort of events that slip from one's memory!!
Maybe if this place has, as you say a number of other violent attacks it would be helpful to let us all know what happened and too whom so we may all have a rethink on where we go.
Please don't keep such valuable information to yourself.
Post by: jsp51 on November 01, 2014, 17:23:07 PM
Elduzumlu, a soap of British expats. Nobody would believe any of the storylines...Couldn't have put it better myself.
Post by: Scunner on November 01, 2014, 17:24:04 PM
You are correct, I do not know of any other violent attacks except the alleged incident last year of which I am sure he was cleared by the courts.
Maybe if this place has, as you say a number of other violent attacks it would be helpful to let us all know what happened and too whom so we may all have a rethink on where we go.
Please don't keep such valuable information to yourself.
Well that's one more incident than you could remember half an hour ago. I do not know details of the other incidents, I am reliably informed there are others though and that they are quite well known. You could help answer your own question by sharing details of the incident last year you suddenly recalled.
Post by: jsp51 on November 01, 2014, 17:43:08 PM
Scunner, you appear to only read what you want to read, you do not fully digest posts, just pick the bits you want, otherwise you would have seen I mentioned this alleged incident in a post at 16.42.
You are correct, I do not know of any other violent attacks except the alleged incident last year of which I am sure he was cleared by the courts.
Maybe if this place has, as you say a number of other violent attacks it would be helpful to let us all know what happened and too whom so we may all have a rethink on where we go.
Please don't keep such valuable information to yourself.
Well that's one more incident than you could remember half an hour ago. I do not know details of the other incidents, I am reliably informed there are others though and that they are quite well known. You could help answer your own question by sharing details of the incident last year you suddenly recalled.
If you do not know details of incidents then maybe you should not brand such things about.
As far as expanding on what I heard I am not in a position to do that because as I said in the post I do not know the ins and out and do not engage on expanding on hearsay.
Post by: Highlander on November 01, 2014, 17:47:54 PM
Please, please do me a favour and use the quote facility properly >:(
Post by: jsp51 on November 01, 2014, 17:50:17 PM
Sorry if it offends you but I just don't know how to use it. I just muddle through best I can.
Post by: Highlander on November 01, 2014, 17:51:49 PM
Post by: KKOB on November 01, 2014, 17:52:11 PM
jsp51
Please, please do me a favour and use the quote facility properly >:(
Unless of course you want to quote a previous post. :)
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Post by: jsp51 on November 01, 2014, 17:53:37 PM
What about if its a previous post?
Post by: KKOB on November 01, 2014, 17:54:43 PM
Post by: jsp51 on November 01, 2014, 17:59:02 PM
Post by: Highlander on November 01, 2014, 18:05:43 PM
Post by: KKOB on November 01, 2014, 18:11:40 PM
I know that bit but what about if it is a post from say yesterday?
If we wanted to see continuous repeats we wouldn't be on here. We'd be watching Dave ! ;)
Post by: Scunner on November 01, 2014, 18:17:00 PM
As far as expanding on what I heard I am not in a position to do that because as I said in the post I do not know the ins and out and do not engage on expanding on hearsay.
I am finding you nearly impossible to have a discussion with. It was you that mentioned an incident last year not me. Then you followed that by saying you do not "engage on expanding on hearsay". So the incident you brought up from last year you either i) Witnessed or ii) Expanded on hearsay.
You are quite obviously a regular of the establishment and a friend of the owner. You have added a violent incident last year (and forgive me for not placing too much importance on the fact he wasn't charged - I know how it works out there) so that's two violent incidents and you are happy to relax and socialise in this tinderbox? Rather you than me. Your efforts to undermine the attack are noble but misguided. I'd be happy to leave it there but I am sure you won't be. Sadly.
Post by: sadler on November 01, 2014, 18:35:13 PM
Post by: Scunner on November 01, 2014, 19:05:30 PM
Post by: sadler on November 01, 2014, 19:09:01 PM
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on November 01, 2014, 20:16:24 PM
Thank goodness we did not buy there, sounds like absolute hell.
Is this the real "Village of the damned"???
Post by: davybill on November 01, 2014, 20:22:22 PM
Post by: sadler on November 01, 2014, 20:29:14 PM
Post by: Highlander on November 01, 2014, 20:37:54 PM
So let's not tar the whole village with the same brush, please.
And we would be happy to go up and visit them the next time we are over.
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on November 01, 2014, 20:44:01 PM
hope it isnt Jacqui im going there for a meal tommorow.
Well in some South America countries it is celebrated as All Souls Day.... So watch out. Best wear a crash helmet to ward off baseball bats. ;D
To Highlander, we know nice people up there too, but it now sounds like a war zone and no way would we be going up there anytime soon.
Post by: Scunner on November 01, 2014, 20:47:46 PM
But still, if I had a house in Uzumlu I'd probably sleep on a park bench in Fethiye ;)
Post by: Scunner on November 01, 2014, 20:49:37 PM
(http://www.calisvilla.co.uk/bonfire.jpg)
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on November 01, 2014, 20:50:47 PM
The people living there are the moment are not doing the best job to make the place the one that house buyers are wanting to settle down in. :(
Post by: JohnF on November 01, 2014, 21:51:39 PM
If I had a house in Uzumlu, I would be contacting Cenk immediately
Going by the number of properties for sale in that dear green place, I think there are plenty who would have beat you to it.
JF
Post by: jsp51 on November 01, 2014, 21:56:37 PM
i am happy to leave it here and although as you say my efforts to undermine this issue were noble, i was only trying to get 2 sides to this issue. But in the above comment by yourself there is no more to say on this issue. I rest my case your honour.Elduzumlu, a soap of British expats. Nobody would believe any of the storylines...Couldn't have put it better myself.
Post by: laffa on November 02, 2014, 00:59:35 AM
Most of us have good friends that live in Uzumlu - I was talking vaguely statistically and generally. There is quite obviously more scandal and nastiness in Uzumlu per head of expat population than in any other area locally. It doesn't mean everyone is like that there, how could it?well I would never go there again, a beautiful place with nice people, but the old saying, one bad apple, nah, no way, there's none so blind as them that see.
But still, if I had a house in Uzumlu I'd probably sleep on a park bench in Fethiye ;)
Post by: Colwyn on November 02, 2014, 09:30:39 AM
there's none so blind as them that see.Is this one of your quaint old Liverpudlian saying?
Post by: Ian on November 02, 2014, 09:38:51 AM
But you do have to ask why on earth would a blind man be on a galloping horse - sounds irresponsible to me !!
Post by: keng38 on November 02, 2014, 09:44:55 AM
Post by: KKOB on November 02, 2014, 10:29:07 AM
there's none so blind as them that see.Is this one of your quaint old Liverpudlian saying?
The correct version is : There's none so blind as those who will not see. ;)
Post by: Scunner on November 02, 2014, 10:53:21 AM
Post by: gr77 on November 02, 2014, 12:07:27 PM
His only understanding of the night is a story told by his daughter and her boyfriend!
I seen her boyfriend in Eddys one night and his behaviour can only be described as dispicable.
He was blaming everybody in the bar for swoping his designer sunglasses for cheap fakes, was violent towards his girlfriend and other people in the bar. Not surprising after the huge amount of alcohol he had drank.
It would'nt surprise me if he hadn't just fell over on the said night because yet again he had drank stupid amounts.
You call the behaviour of Eddy but people like this trash boyfriend are not welcome in Uzumlu.
Don, you are hearing one side of the story... Have you stopped to think that in this case Eddy is right and in fact the violent one is your daughters boyfriend and it is her that's in danger from violent actions from him?
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on November 02, 2014, 12:12:56 PM
Let he who is free of sin lead a horse to water
You can take a horse to water, but a pencil must be lead
(my Liverpudlian Mother's saying) ;D ;)
Post by: KKOB on November 02, 2014, 12:16:08 PM
Post by: jsp51 on November 02, 2014, 12:29:30 PM
Post by: Highlander on November 02, 2014, 12:50:52 PM
I fail to understand how Don can say hand on heart that Eddy is telling lies when he was not there to witness the incident.
I've tried hard not to get involved in this but a simple question gr77
Were you there on the night of the incident ?
Post by: gr77 on November 02, 2014, 13:05:38 PM
What I do know is this 'boyfriend' is no golden boy, far from it. Too be honest he is a complete arse.
As JSP said, only trying to get people to understand there are two sides to any story and in this case I would prefer to listen to Eddys story rather than that other drunken idiot. This is my choice.
All I said is how can Don say "hand on heart", as he doesn't know, neither do you or I.
Post by: laffa on November 02, 2014, 13:11:56 PM
a bit like me going out and buying size 10 clothes I suppose, :P
Post by: JohnF on November 02, 2014, 13:21:31 PM
As it stands, that fact speaks volumes.
JF
Post by: mary62 on November 02, 2014, 13:28:51 PM
Let he who is free of sin lead a horse to waterYou can take a horse to water, but you can't make it gather moss.
Post by: Scunner on November 02, 2014, 13:29:41 PM
Post by: gr77 on November 02, 2014, 13:32:17 PM
Eddy threw him out and that's it. He claims he didn't beat him up or follow him home.
Why doesn't this boyfriend reply on here? Maybe because the story he gave Don is all made up and he's just trying to cover up his own stupidity.
I remember the morning after and this boyfriend claimed to the Jandarma he was robbed of all his possessions including his passport. How then did he fly home that evening? Possible emergency passport but maybe Don can say if he actually has his passport or not? If he has why did he say that was stolen??
As I said before, I witnessed the boyfriends drunken violent behaviour to locals as well as his own girlfriend. What a tough guy
Post by: Highlander on November 02, 2014, 13:39:39 PM
Why doesn't this boyfriend reply on here?
Presumably for exactly the same reason as Eddy hasn't.
Just a thought :(
Post by: jsp51 on November 02, 2014, 14:25:18 PM
The other side of the story apparently is known to Don who for whatever reason has chosen to brand it as lies but will not share it with anyone on this forum.
Post by: Old Nick on November 02, 2014, 16:45:48 PM
Post by: desmartinson on November 02, 2014, 17:06:36 PM
Post by: Colwyn on November 02, 2014, 17:10:12 PM
Post by: desmartinson on November 02, 2014, 17:16:58 PM
Post by: Scunner on November 02, 2014, 17:41:25 PM
Fair enough, I'd expect to be able to put my version of events whatever my 'side' was. But is it actually conceivable, that the detailed story of a man who I think nobody doubts got seriously injured, his girlfriend petrified trying to find her way home alone in the small hours - could be a total fabrication?
It seems pretty unlikely to me - someone coming up with tales like this, should it be totally untrue, shouldn't be arguing about switched sunglasses, they should be writing novels!!!
Post by: kevinartois on November 02, 2014, 17:46:02 PM
Post by: gr77 on November 02, 2014, 19:45:19 PM
This is actually a nice quiet village, far from the trash that frequent Calis
Post by: Highlander on November 02, 2014, 19:48:34 PM
Post by: Bluwise on November 02, 2014, 19:49:18 PM
Post by: gr77 on November 02, 2014, 19:56:32 PM
Get a life and live it
Post by: jsp51 on November 02, 2014, 20:00:39 PM
Post by: Scunner on November 02, 2014, 20:05:13 PM
I only joined the forum to support Eddy as it was all one sided. All the poor souls that have moved here to Turkey spend their lives living these forums chatting about nothing they actually know about, now this is sad.
Get a life and live it
I think there is someone in this topic who needs to "get a life" - you need to look a little closer to home perhaps. Calling all people who live in Calis "trash" really is a greater reflection on you than them. Even Eddy at this dark time could do without support from people like this from people like you.
Continue with the childish insults and ignore our rules about showing respect to other member at all times and we will say goodbye to you. This is Calis Beach Forum, not Scum News.
Post by: Highlander on November 02, 2014, 20:09:52 PM
Actually i don't think he took his money i think he may have left without paying. Please correct me if I'm wrong
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Post by: kevinartois on November 02, 2014, 20:13:41 PM
Post by: kevinartois on November 02, 2014, 20:18:52 PM
Post by: Scunner on November 02, 2014, 20:22:07 PM
Allegedly they knew who he was and soon found him...
Post by: Scunner on November 02, 2014, 20:33:37 PM
Post by: kevinartois on November 02, 2014, 20:38:15 PM
Post by: Scunner on November 02, 2014, 20:40:12 PM
Post by: Colwyn on November 02, 2014, 20:46:50 PM
Post by: kevinartois on November 02, 2014, 20:53:08 PM
Post by: Scunner on November 02, 2014, 20:57:09 PM
Post by: Scunner on November 02, 2014, 21:12:08 PM
So it is with some regret (although hardly any) that "John Jones/gr77" has been removed from CBF.
Please be assured that opinions from all sides of all arguments are actively welcomed on CBF - and are evident in this very topic - but anonymous or made up names are nearly always trouble in forumland and we already saw that beginning in gr77's later posts. Still, if any established member of CBF can PM me to vouch for there being a "John Jones" in Uzumlu, then provided he can keep the insults to himself he will be allowed back.
Surely one of the Eddy supporters knows "John Jones"? No??
Post by: mercury on November 03, 2014, 10:54:17 AM
Post by: bluegypsylou on November 03, 2014, 11:02:14 AM
Liz, he didn't have his passport stolen - you've made that bit up.Maybe so Steve but you do require a Fit to Fly Certificate and if the injuries suffered to the head were so serious I hardly think he would be allowed to fly out the next day!!
Post by: bluegypsylou on November 03, 2014, 11:07:03 AM
I would just add that if he flew out the next day he would require a Fit to Fly Certificate. Surely if the injuries to his head were as quoted he would not be provided with this?
Post by: JaqDav on November 03, 2014, 11:24:23 AM
Post by: laffa on November 03, 2014, 12:33:11 PM
Post by: davybill on November 05, 2014, 20:58:42 PM
Post by: Scunner on November 05, 2014, 21:50:41 PM
I've followed this with great interest, no I don't live in Turkey so that would mean some think I'm not eligible to an opinion on this
Why do you think that? It's not correct - far more people on here live outside Turkey than live in it. All opinions are welcome, I'm not sure where you got that opinion from.
Post by: mac2010 on November 06, 2014, 08:37:35 AM
Post by: AandP on November 06, 2014, 09:46:44 AM
We live in Uzumlu, were shocked to read Don's original post, and have followed the threads with interest and alarm.
On the one side you have opinions that this was an entirely unprovoked attack by someone who is clearly a risk to society; on the other, that the attack was retribution (albeit vicious) for the punching of a Turk and running off without paying the bill, following previous bad behaviour in the same bar.
It is interesting to see how things can get distorted;- we had a visit last week from a friend who is holidaying in Calis and asked about "this woman who's been attacked in a bar in Uzumlu". I guess we're just asking for people to think before they voice opinions about Uzumlu that can be damaging; there are other bars & restaurants here that may suffer.