"We came out on 11th May, returned 3 July =52 days.
So we were intending to return Mid September for 60days or 2 months, that means we can't as it is using more than our 38 days remaining out of 180 days, WHAT A BALLS UP!!!
Do you get the feeling we are not welcome?"
Your first 180 day period finishes on 6th November, so after this date you should be able to apply for another 90 day visa. As you have used 52 days already if you delay your visit until the end of September, your remaining 38 days should take you up to when you could leave Turkey e.g Kas to Meis, to get your 2nd 90 days worth...clear as mud or what! check this out - it might work!