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Title: Man Utd
Post by: desmartinson on October 20, 2013, 18:03:58 PM
Only a question, but does anyone know where Man Utd has gone  ;)  :)
Title: Re: Man Utd
Post by: tinkerman on October 20, 2013, 18:32:20 PM
Last seen heading South Des  ;)
Title: Re: Man Utd
Post by: karaokemark on October 20, 2013, 18:43:58 PM
They went with Fergie he knew when to retire, they will come good again but will take time, I still think he was the right man for the job.
Mark
Title: Re: Man Utd
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on October 20, 2013, 19:52:52 PM
I remember when Fergie first took the job with United and initially they did not do well and people where calling for him to go... Yes, this is true. :o
So, it may take time, but I am sure Moyes will do well. 
I cannot believe as a Liverpool supporter I am saying  this, but, I have to be honest and I always did like Moyes when he was at Everton.   :)
On the other hand I cannot deny I am enjoying them struggling.  : :) :-[ : :)
Title: Re: Man Utd
Post by: Scott and Lisa on October 20, 2013, 20:17:35 PM
there were very unlucky yesterday......shame
Title: Re: Man Utd
Post by: usedbustickets on October 21, 2013, 08:34:53 AM
Perhaps the observation should be where have all the gloating Man U supporters gone when it is time to stand up for your club?  ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Man Utd
Post by: tinkerman on October 21, 2013, 08:36:49 AM
there were very unlucky yesterday......shame

That's not what the stats say..
Title: Re: Man Utd
Post by: stoop on October 21, 2013, 10:23:28 AM
Moyse sacked by Xmas and some foreigner in charge I guess.

They need CL football or they will lose millions £ and all the glory hunters. Top four is a must for them so I expect him to go unless it looks possible by Xmas.
Title: Re: Man Utd
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on October 21, 2013, 12:45:25 PM
I remember sitting in the bar of the Treetop's Hotel in Aberdeen Fergie was there and having a drink.  Everyone was saying  he would be out of his depth going to Manchester and he should stay at Aberdeen.
I think M.U. will give Moyes the same chance they gave to Fergie.
However, I do think they may loose a lot of there glory hunter supporters by Christmas.
Title: Re: Man Utd
Post by: karaokemark on October 21, 2013, 13:09:16 PM
there were very unlucky yesterday......shame

That's not what the stats say..
I looked back at many threads not a lot of gloaters but an awful lot of envious supporters from other clubs, I will remain a true supporter for as long as my sons company have a private box for me to use when I am in England  8)
Title: Re: Man Utd
Post by: stoop on October 21, 2013, 14:14:45 PM
Different owners now mad they won't give him the time Fergie had. They need the success to pay the interest on their massive debt.

there were very unlucky yesterday......shame

That's not what the stats say..
I looked back at many threads not a lot of gloaters but an awful lot of envious supporters from other clubs, I will remain a true supporter for as long as my sons company have a private box for me to use when I am in England  8)
Title: Re: Man Utd
Post by: tinkerman on October 21, 2013, 14:18:58 PM
The days of long term managers are long gone, fergies reign will never happen again at any club

Trust me I know what the score is "I am top of the league,I am top of the league" ;D
Title: Re: Man Utd
Post by: usedbustickets on October 21, 2013, 22:34:07 PM
You may be top of the league Tinx, but yer team ain't!!
Title: Re: Man Utd
Post by: Ian on October 22, 2013, 04:43:49 AM
Moyes may have taken over a team that won the title by a mile - but their main competitors strengthened significantly and United didn't - probably due to the appointment of a new CEO which was s mistake - Gill should have been asked to stay on another 12 months.
Add to this totally new backroom staff - which I think was another mistake and it is little wonder they are struggling to maintain consistency!

Also they have too many players who are either aging or not up to being Man United players which Fergie knew and I think influenced his decision to go.

 I think Moyes is the best man for the job - but like others I wonder if he will get the time if they do not qualify for the Champions League this season.

On another note - Liverpool although outside bet for top 4 are still a long way away from winning the title - Spurs flatter to deceive with erratic performances as always so it will be a 3 horse race and if not Man City it will be lovely to see Arsenal win the title as a reward to Wenger for sticking to his principles - that is some compliment from me a true Northerner :-)

That Wilshere goal at weekend was pure poetry in motion and a team that plays in that manner deserves to win the title.
Title: Re: Man Utd
Post by: Christie on October 22, 2013, 11:18:57 AM
What a great post.
Title: Re: Man Utd
Post by: karaokemark on October 22, 2013, 11:28:02 AM
Moyes may have taken over a team that won the title by a mile - but their main competitors strengthened significantly and United didn't - probably due to the appointment of a new CEO which was s mistake - Gill should have been asked to stay on another 12 months.
Add to this totally new backroom staff - which I think was another mistake and it is little wonder they are struggling to maintain consistency!

Also they have too many players who are either aging or not up to being Man United players which Fergie knew and I think influenced his decision to go.

 I think Moyes is the best man for the job - but like others I wonder if he will get the time if they do not qualify for the Champions League this season.

On another note - Liverpool although outside bet for top 4 are still a long way away from winning the title - Spurs flatter to deceive with erratic performances as always so it will be a 3 horse race and if not Man City it will be lovely to see Arsenal win the title as a reward to Wenger for sticking to his principles - that is some compliment from me a true Northerner :-)

That Wilshere goal at weekend was pure poetry in motion and a team that plays in that manner deserves to win the title.
Ian if I had time I would have written that word for word spot on.
Mark
Title: Re: Man Utd
Post by: usedbustickets on October 22, 2013, 11:52:20 AM
Yes Moyes deserves the time to turn things round, not least the time to buy and introduce replacement for some of the aged workforce at Man U.  I'm sure there is no panic about the current mid table form at Old Trafford, certainly not to rush out a bring in a new - probably non British - manager anyway.

Title: Re: Man Utd
Post by: Scunner on October 22, 2013, 13:00:23 PM
Ian

How can you say it would be refreshing if Wenger win the league by "sticking to his principles" when buying Mesut Ozil for £26 million more than the previous record signing, and smashing the club's highest wage earning player out of sight?

I'd say it would be winning the league by dumping your principles in the bin.
Title: Re: Man Utd
Post by: Ian on October 22, 2013, 13:23:57 PM
He bought a "poetry playing footballer" as opposed to a quick fix player - and he wants to win the title by passing the ball into the net :-)

I have always doubted that that would be possible - but this season might just be the opportunity of a decade for him.
Title: Re: Man Utd
Post by: Scunner on October 22, 2013, 13:26:48 PM
Feel free to answer the question I asked :D
Title: Re: Man Utd
Post by: Scott and Lisa on October 22, 2013, 15:24:44 PM
lets have it right Wenger was after any big name player that he could get, if he hadnt got ozil he would have looked a fool after publicly banding the biggest names in football about.

he ended up with a midfielder when he wanted a forward, he has got away with it for now....
Title: Re: Man Utd
Post by: Scunner on October 22, 2013, 15:30:31 PM
And in truth it was Man U who needed Ozil
Title: Re: Man Utd
Post by: Ian on October 22, 2013, 15:45:52 PM
Feel free to answer the question I asked :D

We seem to have a misunderstanding - I am referring to the style of football Arsenal play - and Wenger stays true to that style - pass and move - "one touch football" that at its best is exquisite - but as I said I have always thought maybe a touch over elaborate - but at times wonderful to watch :D
Title: Re: Man Utd
Post by: Scunner on October 22, 2013, 15:50:17 PM
No misunderstanding Sir - if he was to win it without ditching his principles he may not be ditching his tactical principles but absolutely ditching his 'socialist' principles on transfer fees and wages. The two together mean he cannot win it this year without compromising his principles   :)
Title: Re: Man Utd
Post by: Ian on October 22, 2013, 15:59:16 PM
It's all relative - he has still spent considerably less than his rivals  :)
Title: Re: Man Utd
Post by: Scunner on October 22, 2013, 16:04:42 PM
Not this year he hasn't so it won't prove your point  :)
Title: Re: Man Utd
Post by: desmartinson on October 22, 2013, 17:54:55 PM
Great topic I started here eh,  ;)  :)
Title: Re: Man Utd
Post by: Ian on October 22, 2013, 18:01:51 PM
Squad Cost 13/14

Team Squad Costs

Chelsea £373,300,000

Man City £369,600,000

Man Utd £312,200,000

Tottenham £206,200,000

Liverpool £186,550,000

Arsenal £182,425,000

Considerably less ........................................^-^ - maybe catching up slightly but it is still about the football he plays - when they scored "that" goal at the weekend he looked like a proud father saying - "that is wot I av been telling u to do" - priceless  :)
Title: Re: Man Utd
Post by: scorcher on October 22, 2013, 18:30:15 PM
Just like West Ham then !
Title: Re: Man Utd
Post by: Scunner on October 22, 2013, 18:42:44 PM
I agree with you Ian, and the man has bought some of the greatest bargains (and sold on at the greatest profits) as well. I am not anti-Wenger, far from it.
Title: Re: Man Utd
Post by: Ian on October 22, 2013, 19:16:32 PM
Just going to settle down to watch the Arsenal game - as someone who usually cheers for Northern teams - I hope they are not going to let me down - after me "celebrating them" -against a good team (no disrespect to Norwich ) but this will be a real test!