Benefit's in Turkey

[Anne]

That's because they are visiting Yasemin.  If they came to stay permanently they would be entitled to free healthcare from a GP

[rpg9000]

A Turk earning TL4,000 a month would pay SSK contributions of about TL580, and his employer would make additional payments of..............oh, I really can't be bothered; with intellects such as these around:-

 

quote:aimed at the post by the guy with the rocket propelled grenade for a nickname!!

 

quote:Or, have you been listening to some whinging barman?

what's the point in trying to have a decent debate?

[apollo]

Anybody useing a country's benefits system, in this scenario health care, will either gain or lose financially.

The contributions made either by a Turkish national or an Expat on most occasions do not cover the cost of the treatment.

As in any country the nationals will be paying the lions share of the costs and therefore we as expats, who are in the system or make use of it, are the main beneficiaries.

I have not heard or had any negative feed back from any of the Turkish people that I have met.

It's what a caring society does. It tries to look after those in need and the Governments initiative, I believe, should be welcomed.

[Anne]

quote:Originally posted by rpg9000

A Turk earning TL4,000 a month would pay SSK contributions of about TL580, and his employer would make additional payments of..............oh, I really can't be bothered; with intellects such as these around:-

 

quote:aimed at the post by the guy with the rocket propelled grenade for a nickname!!

 

quote:Or, have you been listening to some whinging barman?

what's the point in trying to have a decent debate?

I asked a question.  It is you who cannot be bothered to debate the issue.

Nice post Apollo:D

[sunnyd]

quote:Originally posted by rpg9000

A Turk earning TL4,000 a month would pay SSK contributions of about TL580,

Considering that in Turkey (January 2010), the 'minimum wage' was set  at 729TL (Gross) per month, and (net) 577TL. The statement from rpg9000 is a tad far fetched.

The majority of Turkish Nationals earn even lower than the 'net' wage every month, without paying the SSK which is deducted from the 'Gross'.
A 'standard' monthly wage can be around 400TL per month without the SSK payment. There are still alot of employers that do not want to legally pay the SSK payment for their employees....(and they do not even raise the monthly wage by cash so that the employee can pay the SSK themselves)
Alot of Turkish Nationals live by their wage without SSK.

As an extra question... how many earn 4,000TL per month anyway??

[Heather Davis]

Very well said Nikkie!

[rpg9000]

quote:I asked a question. It is you who cannot be bothered to debate the issue.

Yes Anne you did, closely followed by an insulting remark.

quote:Nice post Apollo

Agree 100% - isn't that in essence what I was trying to say?

 

quote:As an extra question... how many earn 4,000TL per month anyway??

Answer: I don't know, but it will be a significant number. That is not a random figure, it was chosen very deliberately as it is close to the upper earnings cap for SSK contributions in much the same way that we have a limit on employee NIC payments. I'm not saying that it is an average wage - look back to my earlier post where I used the expression "on a decent salary".

There are plenty of people in the UK on £15/20K, and there are also hundreds of thousands (if not millions) on £250K plus. Assuming they pay their taxes, the latter are subsidising the former when it comes to social services - that's what a caring society is all about.

[Elsa Padfield]

Yasemin is correct.  Although it seems that all and sundry come to the UK for FREE health care and benefits, it's only people for EU countries who take advantage of it - or legally that is.  Quite obviously, if someone is poorly on UK soil and has no insurance etc, then our emergency services would take care of them but not otherwise.

[posleeds]

Well said sunnyd.

Most Turkish workers are lucky to earn 4000TL a year, never mind a month! Don't forget a lot of the seasonal workers here work their socks off for 6 months then go back to help their families throughout the winter with no additional income until the next summer season.

[Highlander]

quote:Originally posted by rpg9000

....and there are also hundreds of thousands (if not millions) on £250K plus.

Please explain the source of the information on which you based that statement. I await your reply with interest.