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Property For Sale in Calis Beach & Turkey => Moving To Turkey => Topic started by: Highlander on October 09, 2013, 22:38:02 PM

Title: Why Turkey: Pros and cons
Post by: Highlander on October 09, 2013, 22:38:02 PM
I am interested in the major reasons that members have for wishing to move to Turkey, and Mugla in particular, as opposed to any other part of the world.
Title: Re: Why Turkey: Pros and cons
Post by: Menthol on October 10, 2013, 01:59:53 AM
It just felt like I'd come home when I first visited Fethiye. It's the only way I can explain it.
Title: Re: Why Turkey: Pros and cons
Post by: Kevin Sowten on October 10, 2013, 07:25:47 AM
Funnily enough we've been calling it home for about 5 years !!!!
Previously holidayed in Cyprus (south), Corfu, Kos, Bodrum, Majorca, Benidorm but
none of them had the same 'magnetism' apart from Paphos where we initially started
our investigations on retirement - but then they joined the Euro  :(
Finances are obviously a big consideration in allowing an earlier retirement and
Turkey is still very cheap (long may it stay that way   ;) )
Fethiye just 'has it all' as far as we are concerned.
Title: Re: Why Turkey: Pros and cons
Post by: Scott and Lisa on October 10, 2013, 07:45:51 AM
Lisa is very strict on only going somewhere once, we had been in Turkey a few hours when she informed me that we could come back, and it has grown from there. I feel more at home there than anywhere else in the world, including England. The weather, the people, stunning views, the food, the history, the banks! All if it seems to good to be true. There may be better places to end up but I think we will settle on the bit of paradise we call Fethiye
Title: Re: Why Turkey: Pros and cons
Post by: Jim Fraser on October 10, 2013, 12:15:11 PM
Major reasons -
Pros
Non Euro zone (saw that as a plus point years ago)
Good interest rates (OK lower now but still comparatively high)
More for your cash when buying property (for the ''lucky''ones)
Cons
Expensive flights for friends visiting

loads of other pros and cons but most are fairly obvious but very individual.
Title: Re: Why Turkey: Pros and cons
Post by: Karennina on October 10, 2013, 13:14:32 PM
I am one of the "wanted to move to Turkey" permanently around six years ago hubby did not and six years on I am so glad we did not make the move for various reasons....The last seven years have been a huge learning curve re all things Turkey and whilst I would like to spend longer periods out there for me there is nothing like our green and pleasant land to come home to...
One of my reasons is I am just not comfortable with having to travel so far for possible heart and other health treatments it was a big shock for us to find out last year that the local hospitals do not offer these treatments so that alone is a huge con for me...  :( Good luck to all members/folk though who are thinking of doing it or who have done it...    :)Enjoy...
Title: Re: Why Turkey: Pros and cons
Post by: loiner on October 10, 2013, 18:11:36 PM
Been here 5 years I personally cannot afford to live in Britain  interest rate low compared to here.Electric charges lower gas bottles very cheap and council tax 60 tl per year no I cannot understand why I dont want to go back to the UK
Title: Re: Why Turkey: Pros and cons
Post by: WordBird on October 10, 2013, 18:35:19 PM
It just felt like I'd come home when I first visited Fethiye. It's the only way I can explain it.

Menthol. Are you sure you're not my long-lost twin? That's exactly what I'd say.  :o

I was born and have lived in the UK all my life, but my blood is a real Heinz 57 mix - I'm half-Italian and have Polish, Brazilian, French and Lord knows what other genes sloshing round. I've never felt like I belong in England - never felt rooted anywhere, even though I've been in my current town for 23 years.

Mr WB was an army brat and moved around constantly in his early years. For both of us, 'home' is wherever we're together....but we both feel Fethiye is where we're meant to settle.
Title: Re: Why Turkey: Pros and cons
Post by: Menthol on October 10, 2013, 18:43:06 PM
Yes! Of course I'm your long lost twin! Hello, Sis! I gain a sister and knock 11 years off my age all in one fell swoop!

 ;D
Title: Re: Why Turkey: Pros and cons
Post by: WordBird on October 10, 2013, 18:44:55 PM
Yes! Of course I'm your long lost twin! Hello, Sis! I gain a sister and knock 11 years off my age all in one fell swoop!

 ;D

Dammit. No high-five icon.
Use your imagination please.  ;D :D
Title: Re: Why Turkey: Pros and cons
Post by: Bluwise on October 10, 2013, 20:56:47 PM
Pros
There are no road signs warning of a new road sign 50 metres further on
I can have a cig with my Gin
The night scented Jasmine is hypnotic
People can hug and kiss your children and nobody thinks it's wrong
People are so generous with gifts of freshly picked fruit and just-baked bread
Cons
My family are not there
I can't master the language
Title: Re: Why Turkey: Pros and cons
Post by: Scunner on October 10, 2013, 21:00:29 PM
Cons:
You can have a flat tonic with your gin
Title: Re: Why Turkey: Pros and cons
Post by: Bluwise on October 10, 2013, 21:02:59 PM
Oh my goodness YES - one of my pet hates and I forgot about it.....must be getting acclimatised rather than traumatised!
Title: Re: Why Turkey: Pros and cons
Post by: Menthol on October 10, 2013, 21:09:02 PM
Love those pros and cons, Bluwise.

I particularly like the one about children. It's so very true.
Title: Re: Why Turkey: Pros and cons
Post by: Highlander on October 10, 2013, 21:17:27 PM
People can hug and kiss your children and nobody thinks it's wrong

I do not believe that the vast majority of people in the UK think that.
Title: Re: Why Turkey: Pros and cons
Post by: Bluwise on October 10, 2013, 21:21:59 PM
Indeed it is Menthol.  When our grand daughter was about 3 she was passed along the dolmus to go to her Daddy and at least 2 people hugged and kissed her head - one being a young man of about 20 something.  Imagine that on a bus in Donny.......so lovely to be affectionate without a second thought.  Probably most in the UK don't think it's wrong but would not dare do it for fear of those who insist it is.
Title: Re: Why Turkey: Pros and cons
Post by: Scunner on October 10, 2013, 21:28:19 PM
I think I said recently - but when has that ever stopped me - how about the opposite of the Dolmus situation.

On a trip to the UK, the airport bus at Stansted is packed.

Imagine the moment when you realise your 3 year old is one second away from climbing into a stranger's lap :D
Title: Re: Why Turkey: Pros and cons
Post by: echogirl1 on October 10, 2013, 21:50:16 PM
It seems a shame that things have gone so far the other way, as a 60+ female I have had small children whisked away when I smiled at them, have not dared to help a small child lost in supermarket except by notifying a member of staff.  When did a grandmother type figure become a threat?
Title: Re: Why Turkey: Pros and cons
Post by: Scunner on October 10, 2013, 21:57:49 PM
My mum couldn't believe her eyes, watching our little twin being held in the water taxi captain's arm as he held her up to steer the boat. Then afterwards he put her down safely and prompted her on her way with a couple of quick pats on the bottom. By that time we weren't even noticing such things but my muvva was absolutely appalled.

I agree we have to be careful, and that there are very dangerous people about (everywhere). But why does that mean the other 99.999% of lives of good people are so negatively changed..?
Title: Re: Why Turkey: Pros and cons
Post by: Scunner on October 10, 2013, 22:16:11 PM
Getting back on topic, I also think that one person's pro (or indeed con) might be another's con (or indeed pro). Of course one main reason is the weather, in fact one of ours - but I grew slowly to dislike the weather more and more. There were no surprises, I had been in Calis in each and every month prior to moving there so I knew how hot/cold/wet it could get but over the years the punishing summers and wet days with absolutely nothing to do with the kids grated me.

loiner is right about the council tax being cheap (although mine was nothing remotely close to 60 TL a year) but everything imported is outrageously expensive. Things even out in my opinion. Low council tax, outrageous car or petrol prices. Water rates stupidly small but spend hours of your life in queues trying to pay it. Or selling a moped. Or having the cheek to want your money from the bank. It was amusing once, I'm sure of that. I think.

So the point was that people's pros and cons can be completely opposite. But also that people's personal pros and cons don't necessarily stay constant over time.
Title: Re: Why Turkey: Pros and cons
Post by: WordBird on October 11, 2013, 14:20:57 PM
Getting back on topic, I also think that one person's pro (or indeed con) might be another's con (or indeed pro). Of course one main reason is the weather, in fact one of ours - but I grew slowly to dislike the weather more and more. There were no surprises, I had been in Calis in each and every month prior to moving there so I knew how hot/cold/wet it could get but over the years the punishing summers and wet days with absolutely nothing to do with the kids grated me.

loiner is right about the council tax being cheap (although mine was nothing remotely close to 60 TL a year) but everything imported is outrageously expensive. Things even out in my opinion. Low council tax, outrageous car or petrol prices. Water rates stupidly small but spend hours of your life in queues trying to pay it. Or selling a moped. Or having the cheek to want your money from the bank. It was amusing once, I'm sure of that. I think.

So the point was that people's pros and cons can be completely opposite. But also that people's personal pros and cons don't necessarily stay constant over time.

Very intelligent argument, not that I've come to expect anything else from you.   :)

I know it won't all be moonlight and roses and I think anyone that does is fooling themselves. I'm told I will come to miss UK weather in time, and that may be true....

I agree with you, people's ideals don't stay constant, but I for one have always been the type that goes for what feels right at the time. (Got me in no end of trouble, that has.  ;D ;D)

Title: Re: Why Turkey: Pros and cons
Post by: angela on October 11, 2013, 14:49:03 PM
Getting back on topic, I also think that one person's pro (or indeed con) might be another's con (or indeed pro). Of course one main reason is the weather, in fact one of ours - but I grew slowly to dislike the weather more and more. There were no surprises, I had been in Calis in each and every month prior to moving there so I knew how hot/cold/wet it could get but over the years the punishing summers and wet days with absolutely nothing to do with the kids grated me.


constant over time.

Very intelligent argument, not that I've come to expect anything else from you.     :)

I know it won't all be moonlight and roses and I think anyone that does is fooling themselves. I'm told I will come to miss UK weather in time, and that may be true....

I agree with you, people's ideals don't stay constant, but I for one have always been the type that goes for what feels right at the time. (Got me in no end of trouble, that has.  ;D ;D)


Title: Re: Why Turkey: Pros and cons
Post by: angela on October 11, 2013, 14:54:03 PM
They are all very valid points, and bringing up small children when there are not the amenities that we take for granted at your disposal must have made for some long dismal winter days, but I like to think we will do our travelling and exploring other cities in the winter.
Yes even when I'm on holiday I think how nice it would be to get dressed without sweating on a boiling day,  but equally,  how many times on a UK break,  have I needed a winter coat in Summer


Title: Re: Why Turkey: Pros and cons
Post by: janmack on October 11, 2013, 23:12:04 PM
We moved here simply because we had enough of life in the UK and were more than ready to move on.  We happened to be in Turkey around this time and saw a couple of properties we fell in love with so we bought them.  We never intended to stay but 9 years later we are still here... mostly down to our pets...cannot just move on and forget about them!  Still feel lots of good things about Turkey however we will definitely leave when our pets are no longer with us...simply because we want to experience life elsewhere :P