Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Turkey Related Subjects => Turkey Discussion Forum (Not Calis specifically) => Topic started by: Scunner on March 03, 2016, 18:05:05 PM
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Groupon are featuring Marmaris hotels today - from an amazing £40 for a week for up to 4 people in an apartment (that makes it £10 a week per person of course!!!)
It's been on the Groupon website all day. As has the "Be the first to buy" message.
Even at giveaway prices, on a hugely busy website, not one person has been tempted.
= Bad.
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That just got me thinking (not always a good idea ;) ) and I realised that none of our friends or family have asked to use our place in Karagozler this year - thats a first since about 2001.
The upside for me is that if I get a few spare days in Istanbul, I don't have to work out if auntie Jeanny or some random friend of my BH is in residence :)
JF
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The events in Istanbul earlier today has put the final nail in the coffin I think.
Like you John we have no one asking to use our place and only four weeks booked for rentals. We don't usually have many to be fair as we don't advertise but six to eight weeks is more than norm for out place.
It's such a shame to see so many unjust comments everywhere regarding Turkey. People just cannot see past the terrorism threat.
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It is really annoying people in my work always asking is our Apartment anywhere near ALL the trouble in Turkey. When I say it's about 15hrs away from East Turkey (by car) they are surprised. Also any capital city is at risk anywhere in the world.
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I get that all the time; "you won't be going to your place this year I bet"
Why not I say?
"Cos of all the terrorism"
Ignorant retards!
It shows how easily led people can be. They hear a few words on telly and thats it the country is fudged.
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We also have only one friend using our apartment this year, verbal request for 4 weeks in June, I've heard nothing lately so we'll see if they go for it, people have no idea how big Turkey is, I'm a firm believer that you have to be unlucky to get caught up in anything and if you do well sh1t happens as they say.
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Just to pass the time away after another operation and bed bound at home I did a little look around to see various hotel prices per night per room for 2 persons in June in Calis.on a B/B basis.
oykun £25.
golden moon £25.
mendos £31.
Nevada £36.
Harman £23.
sevi £25.
delta £50.
tugay £22.
idee £54.
gunes £24.
kann £20..
this is the best I could find today and going on our many years of visits to Calis prices seem more or less the same as for the past few years, I also put in 5 twin rooms required and found that only the oykun had 3 rooms left and the delta had 4 rooms left , on direct hotel direct bookings .seems like bookings are down this year for most hotels with hard times ahead I feel, such a shame
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Not much room left at Hillside, €600 per night including dinner but drinks extra :)
JF
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Looks like my concern at the Groupon Marmaris offer may have been premature - one has been bought!!!
https://www.groupon.co.uk/deals/ga-world-choice-sports-60
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On a tangent - has anybody enjoyed a good Groupon offer? I gave up on them after a few disappointments. The old adage "You get what you pay for" kept creeping in. Groupon offers for Marmaris hotels at £40 per week? I've heard about Marmaris hotels like that!
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Exactly Bewva people live their lives by what they see on TV. They really should use their own brains more and not believe all the exaggeration on TV. GlennB people only have to look at a map to see how big Turkey is! : :)
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No issues from Mrs Toky and myself from returning to Calis except finding time to fit it in at present due to other commitments. What's happening now can happen any place at any time. The one exception to this as Colwyn's Tangent would not go back to Marmaris Holiday on a good deal never mind a Groupon deal.
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ira 1970.s at home in england no different to turkey. people bury their heads in the sand
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But how many stayed away I the 70's. Different if you live somewhere but I can fully understand any holidaymaker not wanting to put their family at risk.
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ira 1970.s at home in england no different to turkey. people bury their heads in the sand
Actually, the troubled times of the seventies in the UK were very different to what Turkey is going through now, although the effect (of terrorism) on tourism and the local economy is comparable. London especially suffered a drop in visitors from the US and from mainland Europe during those times.
This is an interesting report (from 2005) looking at the effect of terrorism on the local economy of London published by the London Chamber of Commerce: Link (http://www.londonchamber.co.uk/docimages/754.pdf)
Not sure what you mean by "people bury their heads in the sand".
JF
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People who "bury their heads in the sand" pretend things aren't happening. So the opposite of those not going because of what might be happening :)
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Still lost... :)
JF
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Good friends of ours are giving Turgetries a miss this year after six hols there.They have no children and just feel a bit put off by the situation at present.They have booked a week in Morrocco.Is it safe there?Who knows,I hope so.
If we didn't own a property there maybe we would try somewhere different,but we would miss Calis for sure.
Badger
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We have booked two flights to Turley this year but if I am honest would I be going if we did not have an apartment there ...I don't think so .It's ok being loyal to Turkey and saying 'a terrorist attack can happen anywhere ' but I would rather being on my own turf god forbid if it did happen with family and friends not a four hour flight away and unable to speak the language fluently
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Not sure what you mean by "people bury their heads in the sand".
It is what people do for fun on a bucket&spade holiday.
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We have booked two flights to Turkey this year but if I am honest would I be going if we did not have an apartment there ...I don't think so .It's ok being loyal to Turkey and saying 'a terrorist attack can happen anywhere ' but I would rather being on my own turf god forbid if it did happen with family and friends not a four hour flight away and unable to speak the language fluently
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How many of you saying that Turkey is safe to visit would holiday in Egypt with a family? .We have decided against Calis this year.. Not because of any terrorist worries we just want a change.. After living there 6 years and stating there 2 months a year for the last 3 years we feel that we have been there done that... Also so many of the friends that we had there have left that we feel it wouldn't be the same..
We are trying Spanish resorts early in the year.. Better quality hotels and a good price for half board...
I really don't think that some members should be insulting tourists who choose not to come to Calis/Fethiye this year because they are affected by what they see on the news in England.. If they didn't own a property out there, would they really care anyway... ?? We all know and love what is actually a very small part of Turkey but that doesn't mean that everybody else has too... Our son is actually talking about booking Hillside in September so it hasn't put him off..
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They have booked a week in Morrocco.Is it safe there?Who knows,I hope so.
About as safe as Tunisia was - it only takes one radicalised idiot and a gun.
The difference I guess between Morocco/Tunisia and Turkey is that Turkey has the threat of Islamist extremist attacks, but also bombings due to the escalation of PKK actiity (brought on by you know who) and a perception of thousands of refugees traipsing across the entire width of the country, congregating in the tourist resorts for a rubber boat to paradise. Beaches littered with dead children.
Three reasons to avoid the area for people who believe what they are told. And I don't blame them.
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We agree with mercurys comments. We have gone to Calis twice a year for the past 18 years, but this year I don't want to return. I do know how big turkey is and I know calis is far from the border of Syria so I don't need that pointing out to me, but due to various things happening in turkey recently I just would not feel happy going over there this year. We know what good value spain is and also Portugal so maybe that is where we will go this summer.
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We still live here and feel no difference with all that is reported. But we did live in the UK through the 60;s 70's with all the IRA were throwing at us. Problems can happen anywhere. Each to their own.
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My other half works works for a well known sports/entertainment arena, they are currently on their highest security alert I have ever known to date and have been for quite some time (as are all such venues), I read time and again how people wont go to Turkey, Egypt, Tunisia ect ect but how many of these same people have been to a concert or or sporting event and not given a single thought about security??.
France, spain, Germany and many more are on the same security threat level but I keep hearing we are just sticking to spain this year!..
markar
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I'm very wary of large venues anywhere at the moment but in the UK we expect excellent security. Doesn't mean an atrocity isn't around the corner though.
Interestingly, because we own there and are now retired, we have booked just over six weeks this year. Life others though I'm pretty certain we wouldn't have - without the home to go to in Koca Calls.
Tell you what though - where we are now, even though they get attacks in the south and the capital, we feel so safe. The Thai people are just so friendly, honest and respectful.
On a lighter note I think the Thai may have been infiltrated by Irish Mick and Paddy. I read yesterday that two men burst into a Bangkok shop with plastic guns and the shop owner shot them both dead. Turns out it was a gun shop they decided to raid!
Shouldn't laugh but I did - sorry :)
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Good to know that you didn't get tuked up. ;)
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2 Thai birds asked me to join them for a threesome.
It was just like winning the Lottery.
We had 6 matching balls. ;) tuk tuk, naughty.
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We still live here and feel no difference with all that is reported. But we did live in the UK through the 60;s 70's with all the IRA were throwing at us. Problems can happen anywhere. Each to their own.
I'd have been surprised if you had noticed much difference as Fethiye has always been a little bit different to the rest of Turkey, probably even more so in recent years (it's that Fethiye bubble effect again :) )!
There's always been a level of tolerance in the Fethiye area that is rarely found outside large cities - maybe I should call it the "Izmir Effect" instead. The local council have also been pretty astute in how they've dealt with the increased level of tourism and foreign ownership over the past twenty years, unlike some areas like Altinkum or Marmaris for example. Whether by design or accident, they created Calis and Hisaronu to satisfy different demands from owners/tourists and this left Fethiye itself relatively unchanged, in comparison to many other resorts.
The fact that local businesses employ staff from all over Turkey helps to increase the "mix" during the season - many of them are from the East and South East of the country and, over time, many have settled in Fethiye which adds a further local dynamic ;)
The longer Fethiye stays the way it is, both politically and economically, the happier I am. I don't get down there as much as I used to but as things stand, if the opportunity arose I'd have no hesitation in spending a bit of time chilling out at our place.
JF
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I'm still allowed on the Sensatori page and it seems as busy as ever. There's a thread asking who's going in May with 370 replies.
Maybe they see the security of the AI as something to keep them safer? Not sure on that one father Tunisia tbh.
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Have yet to have this confirmed as fact but several Turkish friends have said that work on the new all inclusive, being built on the site of the Seketur, has ceased. The reason being that there were so few advance bookings it was not worth continuing....
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Mibbe someone should point this out to the Culture and Tourism Minister who doesn't think there is a problem. He's quoted as saying "While the tourism sector will see turbulent days for a while, I believe we will overcome this turbulence. I do not see severe trauma in the sector" recently.
He probably reckons all the Islamic tourists from Iraq etc will "balance the books".
JF
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If he reclassified all the 'refugees' from Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan as 'tourists' that would make his stats look better. Job done!
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Have yet to have this confirmed as fact but several Turkish friends have said that work on the new all inclusive, being built on the site of the Seketur, has ceased. The reason being that there were so few advance bookings it was not worth continuing....
I am going to pop round there and take a look as to whether there is any work going on or not. I will report back.... Inspector Tickets
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Have yet to have this confirmed as fact but several Turkish friends have said that work on the new all inclusive, being built on the site of the Seketur, has ceased. The reason being that there were so few advance bookings it was not worth continuing....
I am going to pop round there and take a look as to whether there is any work going on or not. I will report back.... Inspector Tickets
Sorry for the delay in coming back to you all, I was distracted by an excellent shave in Gunlukbasi, and a very excellent corn beef hash cooked by the fair hand of the Present Mrs Tickets, blinkin marvelous it was too.
Anyway enough of the food report, I went round to look at the building site. Aside from one guy welding a gate in the security fence there was no one else on site that I could see, nor any plant or cement mixer lorries etc. All the gates were shut ... so yes I'd say that work has come to a stop, based on the fact that a week or so ago the place was a mass of activity. Mind you the roads are still churned up from the lorries, and I bet the wonder mayor will not have them fixed before the season starts. So the roads around the front continue to look a mess, - even by normal Turkish road standards - and I'd say are close to dangerous in and around the now closed 5 star AI Hotel building site.
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there seems to be a lot of work at the back of seketur. looks like a big hotel. ubt?
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Yes it will be a very big hotel in Calis terms, but only when it is completed, but when will that be?
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curiosity bought me on here, plus the fact it was easy to get a new password, :) nowhere near as many of our usual friends/family are going this year, we've just decided to go and booked it, but, if things got worse I wouldn't hesitate to pull out, just got to be optimistic now, and hope everything will be ok,
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lovely to have you back laffa, I've missed you on here.
If recent past history is anything to go by, we will probably miss each other again this year but if we do Brenda and I hope you and Kenny have a lovely break. :)
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lovely to have you back laffa, I've missed you on here.
We have missed you too Mo 8)
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aw, nice one, Badge and H, hope we might catch up when we are over, I think if things stay quiet more will go, but even here people are saying we should not be going, there must be some demand cos our flights were not cheap or maybe just fewer flights @ higher prices,
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We sold our place earlier in the year but had already booked 10 nights at the Manas Park for June. We've paid for our flights with Monarch from LBA but don't pay for our accommodation until next month. As things stand we are still going and we're both looking forward to it after missing last year. However I don't think I'd have booked it now after all the recent happenings. It's not so much that were worried about the terrorist threats, I wonder if the place will seem dead if bookings are so down?