Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
General Topics => Computer Problems & Questions, Virus/Scam Warnings => Topic started by: Marggie on July 16, 2014, 10:16:48 AM
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Usually my trusty laptop comes with me to Turkey but with the introduction of "the charged" gadgets I need to look at tablets. Don't want to put my laptop in the hold and don't normally take the battery - it is so heavy - every ounce counts when packing.
So would be interested in what you guys think I should buy. The only stipulation is that it has a USB port, bought a new printer in January and don't want to have to buy again. Used mainly for surfing, eMails, booking flights and a bit of office work.
Would be interested to know if anybody has the HP Pavkilion 2 in 1 with detachable keyboard and what they think of it.
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I my experience the "split" type laptops do not have any usb ports in the tablet. The spec for the HP Pavillion only mentions two usb ports in the base so you wouldn't be able to connect your printer when just using the detachable tablet.
If you do find one, let me know :)
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Printing directly from all Android tablets is problematic. Generally speaking, you need a wireless printer and a third party app that'll connect them.
Its much the same with iJunk, difference is you need an AirPrint enabled printer or third party apps if your printer isnt AirPrint compatible.
Pretty sure both solutions rely on having a local (wifi or wired) network - which if you have, you could look at the Google Cloud Print facility as an alternative.
I looked into it a while ago and gave it up as too much hassle, mainly because the printer I was using didn't have Bluetooth or WiFi.
JF
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ive just bought the nexus 7 32gb from Argod for £99, i know nothing about them but have bee assured its the best on the market for the money, and its half price at the minute
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Argod? I'll bet the service is good :)
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Biblical
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I have a Microsoft Surface.
Tablet with detachable keyboard, runs windows, has a USB port and comes with MS Office.
You can also add memory to is using a micro SD card if needed.
Nowhere near as many "Apps" as Apple - but it does everything I need it for,
Ian
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Loved my nexus but no USB,just got iPad Air ,brilliant but no usb
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HP Windows 8.1 Omni tablet worth a look - £249 delivered direct from HP, USB port (mini) - as Ian says not as many apps as Apple but this is the full version of windows so apps aren't critical. For example I find iPhone mail terrible as you can't block addresses and make rules to delete spam - on this I just use the same mail program I use on my PC/laptop.
http://store.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=F4W57EA&opt=ABU&sel=TBL
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Thanks for all your replies guys.
Steve J, there are a couple of Samsungs with a USB port. The Samsung Tab 3 10.1" WiFi tablet has a mini USB port on the tablet and a full size port on the charger end (similar to a Kindle charger lead where the full size USB goes directly into the plug) so I believe I could connect to my printer with this.
There is a Samsung Tab 4 coming out shortly at exactly the same price as the Tab 3 (£279) so pretty sure the Tab 3 will be heavily discounted.
John F, if you found the Google cloud print facility too much hassle, I have no chance. Had a chat with a guy in Currys today who reckons that as I only bought my printer in January it should be ePrint compatible if I have WiFi network. Will have to look and try and "get my head round it" when I go back.
Scunner, just had a look at the Omni tablet. Reviews seem pretty good and both you and Ian seem happy enough with the HP Windows and they do have Microsoft Office.
I now have plenty to be going on with to make my choice.
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John F, if you found the Google cloud print facility too much hassle, I have no chance. Had a chat with a guy in Currys today who reckons that as I only bought my printer in January it should be ePrint compatible if I have WiFi network. Will have to look and try and "get my head round it" when I go back.
Truth be told, most of the issues I had when trying it at home was down to the printer. If you've got a newish printer, and a local network (with internet), then Google Cloud Print should be easy enough to set up. Plenty of tutorials on the internet, just find that talks your language, so to speak...
JF
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I recently bought an LG G Pad 8". Does the job for me. I have not tried the USB but it has a mini USB which I believe I can use with an adapter.
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Yes Paul - one of these at £1.99 and you're off. Not for all tablets though - doesn't work on Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 for example. Works great on my HP Windows tablet though, one of them, one of these and a USB hard drive and there's 500 movies to watch right there :)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121047718336
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If you're not in a rush, check the HP site every few days as they very often have offers where they throw in either one or two years free HP Data Pass. Free 3G access with between 250Mb and 500Mb allowance per month, UK only I think though...
JF
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Not in a hurry John so will check HP for any offers. I have the newish printer (January this year) and WiFi so will give Google Cloud Print a go when I get back to Turkey.
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Hi Marggie
We've talked about tablets before. I have a Google Nexus II, which has a micro USB port. I print wirelessly to my Epson printer, but also, if you look on Youtube, you will find videos of printing from the Nexus with a Micro USB OTG cable, direct to a printer, which you can get from Amazon for as little as 99p.
You would probably need a driver or/and app from printer manufacturer.
I'm pretty sure you can also use a wireless keyboard and mouse and other things using the same cable.
The Nexus mentioned earlier from Argos is a good deal, but is the earlier model. Amazon do the Mk 2 with 16gb for £150. I've just bought one for someone else, and so far is the cheapest Mk 2 available.
Without knowing, just what you intend to use it for. The main factor may be whether a 7" tablet would serve your purpose.
I assume you're due here soon. If you haven't made a decision by the time you get here, you are more than welcome to give mine a try.
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Thanks for the offer Rik and for your advice on printing. I haven't made any decision yet but what I have established is I want and need at least a 10" tablet. When searching for anything I like to be able to see most of the page at a glance, increasing the size and moving from one part of the page to the other is not for me....probably an age thing and also it will be the only device I'll have with me.
At the moment the favourites are HP Pavilion 2 in 1 10.1" tablet which has a detachable keyboard, a bonus for me, and the Samsung Tab 3.
I believe I can't use Google as a search engine on the HP which presumably means I won't be able to use Google Maps or Google Translate. I use the translate facility a lot especially when in Turkey. Maybe someone knows of an alternative translation facility available on Windows? The Samsung tablet will enable me to use Google as my search engine and I can buy a wireless keyboard/cover for it, they are pretty inepensive so don't know how good the keyboards are. When doing my research o9ver the last few days I have discovered that I can get Microsoft Office free from Office Online.
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I think you will find that the Samsung will have a translator on it. it comes with the android software. I have not tried it but my LG tab has it and so does my wifes new Samsung phone.
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Thanks for that Bewva, I need a translator to help me with my Turkish homework.
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Very pleased with my Samsung tab 3 8in Marggie, been looking for a few weeks eventually got one from Asda £139
Easy to set up (with the help of my son) It would fit in your handbag too 8)
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Very pleased with my Samsung tab 3 8in Marggie, been looking for a few weeks eventually got one from Asda £139
Easy to set up (with the help of my son) It would fit in your handbag too 8)
Same here Badger. Good quality and a good price with mini USB too.
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Yes Badger and Tiggsy, the Tab 3 8" seems pretty good. My friend lent me hers over the weekend and I had a good play around with it. It was easy to use but did make me realise that I need the 10" version, it is surprising how much bigger it appears to be. Asda have the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1" for £249 instead of £349 at the moment so that is a possibility.
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Check Kipa direct. Some good deals on there right now.
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The new Samsung galaxy Tab 'S' gets good reviews,and is rated higher that an I-pad :)
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Asda have the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1" for £249 instead of £349 at the moment so that is a possibility.
You might want to look at this then:
Samsung Refurb Galaxy Note 10.1 Wifi 16GB - White £139.99 (http://www.dabs.com/products/samsung-refurb-galaxy-note-10-1-wifi-16gb---white-9M7V.html?awc=3044_1406028117_c73443646bcd6b1d49e8a072073a1207&referrerid=AW&utm_source=awin&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_content=AW00)
Not sure of the warranty, you'd need to check that out yourself.
JF
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Thanks John, looks as if it will be fine for what I want it for. Will go into town tomorrow and suss it out in Asda, Tesco or Currys.
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Well I went for the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1" and very pleased I am with it too. The screen is clear and large enough to be able to see an almost complete web page. When used in landscape mode its keyboard is large, I can quickly type without hitting the wrong keys all the time and it has Polaris Office on (word processor and a spreadsheet) which once I learn how to use should be sufficient for use in Turkey.
Sad person that I am, I have enjoyed setting it up. Just one question, what security suite do you guys use on your tablets? Are any of the free ones any good?
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I use AVG, but thats probably more out of habit (I 've used it for years on desktops & laptops) as there are several other decent apps available.
Here's a couple of recent reviews to help you decide:
Best Free Antivirus App for Android (http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/best-free-antivirus-app-android.htm)
Best Android antivirus: 6 best cheap and free Android security apps (http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/test-centre/security/3355021/best-android-antivirus-tested/)
JF
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I use Avast - seems ok and as you can imagine I use the free version :-)
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Thanks John & Ian, I did download AVG free this morning but as always was interested in others experiences. Thanks for the links John, will read and digest later.
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Just out of interest I used AVG for years on my desktops but found it gradually taking more control of my PC - and in doing so causing a few problems - so I changed to MSE on my desktop and have had no problems whatsoever and less control issues - hence why I chose Avast when I got into tablets.
Although it does keep trying to get me to upgrade to a paid for version - other than that it seems to work well and did have good reviews for phones and tablets.
Be interested to hear other views from more experienced users?
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but found it gradually taking more control of my PC - and in doing so causing a few problems
In what way? Its pretty configurable so you can set it up to suit your browsing habits etc, and other than the odd upgrade message I've never noticed any attempt to take control of anything.
JF
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From memory now - and my memory is not brilliant after 2/3 years - I had 2 or 3 occasions at least where something (another programme) wouldn't work and after messing around and searching Google for hours ( as you do) I would find that I needed to configure AVG to allow / accept the programme.
Now at first I thought oh that's good its thorough but thorough became tedious after 2 or 3 more so I changed to MSE and found it less problematic (never been asked to configure anything yet) and never had a virus - so maybe AVG was a tad too thorough ?
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Funnily enough I changed all our anti virus to MSE and after six months changed back to AVG. Had more issues with undetected stuff with MSE in six months than in god knows how many years with AVG.
Don't recall ever having to configure AVG to suit a particular application in recent years, for most users it simply works right out the box although you can tinker with it to suit how you work.
JF
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I wonder if any of you experienced tablet users can help.
1. How do I copy and paste? The on-screen keyboard has no mouse facility so can't right click.
2. Has anybody found an on-screen Turkish keyboard?
Have been looking at the Samsung apps but AVG advised against the one I chose. Also looked at Emoji - does anyone have any experience of this?
Thanks in advance.
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On my iPad, to copy and paste I press finger where you want to start copy it will highlight, then drag to the end it will give options select/select all/paste. Select what you need then it will offer to cut or copy - choose then press finger where you want it pasted and select paste - hey presto. Hope this makes sense! :)
I loaded mojo from apps store.
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Thanks Lotty, that does make sense on a document, but how do you copy and paste a link? :) Suppose I'm being thick now, probably mark beginning and mark end as in a document. Will go and try on my tablet.
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Woop, woop Lotty, success! Managed to copy a link to a test page. There are many Mojo apps, which one did you use and does it have a Turkish keyboard? Many thanks.
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Here's the link to my version Marrgie, I Just downloaded from itunes store. I don't know about keyboard but to use, just click on the icon bottom of page (it looks like a globe) and pick one or more emojis you want to use where you have positioned the curser. :) maybe this is just an apple version?
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/emoji-keyboard-2-animated/id738989604?mt=8