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Title: Casting the Detective
Post by: Colwyn on March 03, 2016, 14:24:34 PM
Over the last couple of years I have been gradually, off and on, reading my way through Georges Simenon's magnificent detective series attempting to cover them all chronologically. What comes over very strongly is the size of Maigret - a hulking figure in a big black overcoat - who solves many of his cases simply by his huge, brooding presence in the lives of suspects and those around them. ITV is making a new two-part series of a Maigret case. So who do they cast as Maigret? Rowan Atkinson. I kid you not, Rowan Bloody Atkinson! How the hell can Mr Bean intimidate suspects with his huge bear-like presence? Ridiculous!
Title: Re: Casting the Detective
Post by: JohnF on March 03, 2016, 14:44:14 PM
Ha ha, reminds me of another serious "mis-casting" which also made me question the authors integrity (and loyalty to his readers) in respect of the character he'd built up over numerous best selling novels.

I quote the author "He was one of the largest men she had ever seen outside the NFL. He was extremely tall, and extremely broad, and long-armed, and long-legged. The lawn chair was regular size, but it looked tiny under him. It was bent and crushed out of shape. His knuckles were nearly touching the ground. His neck was thick and his hands were the size of dinner plates...A wild man. But not really. Underneath everything else seemed strangely civilized....His gaze was both wise and appealing, both friendly and bleak, both frank and utterly cynical."

So who plays him in the movies, Tom feckin Cruise.  He'd struggle to make the bench on a subbuteo team never mind the NFL!

JF
Title: Re: Casting the Detective
Post by: scorcher on March 03, 2016, 15:20:28 PM
I have very fond memories of Maigret as I cut my teeth as a clapper loader on the series. Visits to France from Lydd airport to Le Touquet in lumbering old Carvair car carriers taking no time at all and pretty much wave hopping. Rupert Davies was your man and would  quite often turn up on locations in his huge American station wagon in which he slept when not on call. When not on location in France we often used Burnham Beeches just outside Slough suitably frenchified! I seem to remember mentioning this before Colwyn - enjoy your reading.
Title: Re: Casting the Detective
Post by: Colwyn on March 03, 2016, 15:41:14 PM
I recall the Rupert Davies Maigret series as quite brilliant. Apparently nearly all the tapes have been destroyed. The BBC showed one some years ago which I watched with some trepidation - would it be a disappointment, quite dated, not living up to my memories? Not at all it was an outstanding drama. Unfortunately it was set at Christmastime; Paris was empty; all those cosy bars and cafes were shut; just unpeopled wet streets; all that great French milieu missing {even if it was just outside Slough}.
Title: Re: Casting the Detective
Post by: Steve A on March 03, 2016, 15:44:42 PM
The Jack Reacher/Tom cruise thing almost put me off the novels especially when Lee Cild defended te casting.
Title: Re: Casting the Detective
Post by: KKOB on March 03, 2016, 16:05:56 PM
I'm really looking forward to a deaf, dumb and blind black lesbian dwarf in a wheelchair appearing as 007. I'm really into this diversity and equality **it.
Title: Re: Casting the Detective
Post by: JohnF on March 03, 2016, 16:36:26 PM
Apparently nearly all the tapes have been destroyed.

As have the tapes for many early BBC productions.

The Jack Reacher/Tom cruise thing almost put me off the novels especially when Lee Cild defended te casting.

Aye, laughable.  I still don't get it - its not as if he needed the money.

JF
Title: Re: Casting the Detective
Post by: Lotty on March 03, 2016, 16:46:17 PM
I always imagined Jack Reacher as a tall, muscular guy with startlingly blue eyes and tousled sun-bleached hair. Not much attention to fashion, just rough and ugly enough to be gorgeous.

  :o Tom Cruise? Lol! well I didn't expect that!
Title: Re: Casting the Detective
Post by: John H on March 03, 2016, 16:47:55 PM
John Hannah as Rebus was another mistake thankfully corrected later by the character being recast in Ken Stott who brought Rebus to life.
Unfortunately the plots were pretty mangled compared with the books.
Still enjoyable if only for the street scenes of Edinburgh.
Title: Re: Casting the Detective
Post by: KKOB on March 03, 2016, 17:39:59 PM
Did you have to get the tissues out again H ?  ;)
Title: Re: Casting the Detective
Post by: Colwyn on March 03, 2016, 18:16:46 PM
John Hannah as Rebus was another mistake
Quite agree. Couldn't watch the series as it was not credible enough to hold my attention.
Title: Re: Casting the Detective
Post by: Harmless on March 04, 2016, 14:36:56 PM
Derek Jacobi as Cadfael, I could not watch the tv series when it was on, just for that fact.
Title: Re: Casting the Detective
Post by: Stuart T on March 04, 2016, 15:42:16 PM
Despite internet rumours of his death last month, Robbie Coltrane is very much alive and kicking.

His excellent portrayal as the flawed character "Fitz" in "Cracker" showed that he can do more than a semi - comedy act  e.g. the James Bond films.

Not wholly sure he has what it takes" to play Maigret but surely a better choice (for me, anyway) than Rowan Atkinson!

Perhaps, if you'd never read any of the books, Atkinson will come across well and will undoubtedly do a professional job.

I really can't see him doing it with a turkey on his head a la Bean but I'd watch the films.

Was it Mario Puzo who, when asked what he thought of the first "Godfather" film replied that it was like watching his prize bull being turned into a stock cube?

Maigret/Don Vito Corleone - same meat, different gravy (again, pun intended).
Title: Re: Casting the Detective
Post by: usedbustickets on March 04, 2016, 17:00:26 PM
I was disappointed by many of the cast in the recent series of Bosch, Michael Connelly's LA detective Harry Bosch.  Its not that they were bad actors or that the series was bad, it was simply that I did not recognise them as looking anything like what I expected on the screen, well in my minds eye from Connellys description in the many 'Bosch' books. 
Title: Re: Casting the Detective
Post by: Colwyn on March 04, 2016, 17:04:05 PM
If you have a Kindle you might be interested in the current offer of Harry Bosch books for £1.99. I bought one earlier today.
Title: Re: Casting the Detective
Post by: usedbustickets on March 04, 2016, 17:09:19 PM
I've done all the Harry B books now ..... sadly.  I eagerly await the next Bosch, or indeed Lincoln Lawyer, book, as I do any Bernard Cornwell, or Shardlake the Lawyer.
Title: Re: Casting the Detective
Post by: Troy on March 05, 2016, 06:23:49 AM
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How the hell can Mr Bean intimidate suspects with his huge bear-like presence? Ridiculous!

Not ridiculous. How could Hugh Laurie play an idiot in "Blackadder" and then the intimidating doctor in "House"?

Rowan Atkinson will pull it off. And we will be as surprised at his transformation as we were with Hugh Laurie's.