Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Other Local Resorts & Areas => Olu Deniz Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Scunner on May 09, 2012, 16:55:21 PM
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News via Facebook tells a bus failing to stop and eventually doing so on the busy beach. No news on casualties/injuries quite yet.
Turkish only (but with video) - http://www.sabah.com.tr/Yasam/2012/05/09/ogrenci-otobusu-sarampole-uctu
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Unfortunately this is not the first time this has happened lets hope everyone is ok last time there were people killed on the beach.
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Yes indeed Graham - in 2001. Looking at the video I get the feeling there are plenty of minor injuries of people who were probably on the bus rather than serious injuries or deaths. Let's hope so.
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I can't belive the last instance was 11 years ago - just seems like yesterday.
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It was a midi bus of Turkish university students, thankfully no serious injuries on or off the bus. The brakes failed coming down the hill. Very lucky as this could have been so much worse.
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We moved over to Turkey in 2004 and I'm almost sure the same thing happened either late that season or in 2005 season. Can't remember if it was a coach or a dolmus but apparently the brakes failed as they got too hot coming down the hill.
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Yes, because they slow themselves going downhill using the brakes rather than the gears...
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Yep, they don't get taught to use the gears for deceleration but, the same applies in the UK these days. The majority of driving instructors insist on their pupils using only the brakes for stopping and then "block-changing" down to first gear.
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Stupid really as when i took my test many moons ago i was warned never to block change or instant fail! I wonder how much instruction these 'commercial' drivers actually have to do? Seeing as we are not allowed to drive said vehicles it does make me laugh at some of these idiots who cant drive up and down hills using gears instead of thinking a brake pad will stop them, how many times have you sat in traffic at the bottom of the hill coming back to Fethiye to see smoke wafting out of vehicles and a rotton stench of burning brake pads and discs?
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sorry KKOB but what you say is rubbish. Driving instructors have to be better than police instructors so they of course use geasrs to slow their vehicle, it,s common sense, and people would instantly fail if they just used their brakes. Remember the exam includes, all types pof terrain, speeds, hills, etc and , I,m sorry to say most people even if they passed thir driving test, even 10 years ago, would now fail
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Yes but driving instructors don't drive the buses do they? Nearly every bus driver I have travelled downhill with in Turkey cooks their brakes. Fact.
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Originally posted by ovaciksarah
Driving instructors have to be better than police instructors
How did Police Instructors suddenly get into the conversation?
And here's an excerpt from a website giving advise on passing the modern driving test.
About Block Gear Changes
Some drivers have a habit of always changing through the gears one-by-one (1,2,3,4,5 - 5,4,3,2,1). This habit has stuck with some older drivers from when they originally learned to drive many years ago.
Today, in a normal car and for everyday on-road driving, it is not generally good practice to use the gears in this way. We can change down the gears in blocks ( 5th to 2nd or 4th to 2nd. etc)
Over the years, motor car design and engineering has improved. Compared with cars of even ten years ago, modern cars are lighter, more powerful and more aerodynamic. These changes mean that the driving method that was essential in older cars is no longer needed in modern driving.
It is not necessary to change gears in sequence.
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It is not necessary to change gears in sequence. - Except when trying to go from 1st to 5th and stall, or 5th to 2nd and get the engine to jump out of the bonnet!!
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People are confusing cars and coaches/trucks here, on a heavy vehicle if you tried to use only the brakes you would soon come unstuck (as this driver did). Depending on the type of vehicle there is usually an engine brake ,which works better if the engine revs are higher (unless its a transmission type retarder) so you have to use the gears if the terrain dictates this (hilly roads).Even with no engine brake if its hilly you should use the gears to help keep the vehicle under control using the engine braking.On a modern car you would probably be o.k just using the brakes (don't agree myself though) most of the time.
Also , was the vehicle maintained properly ?
And I think Scunner touched on, you can instruct someone till you are blue in the face, but when the driver is on his own you can't make him do anything.
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Originally posted by Stan
And I think Scunner touched on, you can instruct someone till you are blue in the face, but when the driver is on his own you can't make him do anything.
And of course you have to remember TKB (Turks Know Best) :D ;):D