Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Property For Sale in Calis Beach & Turkey => Moving To Turkey => Topic started by: WordBird on November 20, 2013, 15:10:06 PM
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I know there have been similar posts before but some people's reactions when you say you're moving to Turkey make me so mad!
Saw someone this morning for coffee and told her we were leaving the UK. Obviously she asked where we were going....
No sooner had I said "Turkey" than she made *that* face and gave the sharp intake of breath.
I said: "I know, I know - no, I won't have to wear a burka and we're nowhere near Syria" in a jokey way, and she said: "It's not that, it's just one of my cousins moved there for five years, then came back saying it was awful."
SO BLOODY WHAT?
She has no idea where her cousin moved to.
She has no idea why it all went wrong or what the problems were.
She has no idea why they fell totally out of love with the place/country and came home.
In fact, apart from knowing he and his family sold up lock, stock and barrel and moved there, to return disillusioned after five years, she couldn't tell me anything.
So why do it? Why try and p*$% all over somebody's strawberries when you can't actually give any evidence or reasons for it?
I'm not expecting it to be giggles and skipping among the daisies all the way. There will be things I don't like, find difficult and will no doubt make me miserable. But to assume that one person's bad experience will be yours....
I did point out - with restraint - that I could come on here and find plenty of people who would vouch for how wonderful it is.
Rant over (for now). >:( >:( >:(
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Unfortunately there are always some who feel the need to pass judgement on subjects they know naff all about
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Sounds as though she might have touched upon a tiny bit of doubt maybe ?
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Anne has it right - it was no different 10 years ago, maybe even worse. People couldn't believe we were taking kids aged 3 to Turkey, where the people have big bushy beards and curly toed shoes and live in tents in the desert.
Their ignorance, their loss.
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Much as we love Turkey we don't feel the desire to move there permanently, just spend longer there when we've both retired. :)
However, that would never make me pass judgement on someone who is making that move. In fact I admire them for having the guts to do it.
Anne is right, you'll always get someone who thinks they know better when in fact they know far less than you.
Ignore them WordBird, you've done your research, you know it won't all be plain sailing at least at first, but you're still going.
Good luck to you and all the others who are making the move!
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Anne has it right - it was no different 10 years ago, maybe even worse. People couldn't believe we were taking kids aged 3 to Turkey, where the people have big bushy beards and curly toed shoes and live in tents in the desert.
Their ignorance, their loss.
Ha! This is exactly how my aunt thinks it will be! ;D
Scorcher - I honestly don't doubt what we're doing. I'm just getting fed up of all the nay-sayers who think the world revolves around our somewhat judgemental and up-its-own-backside little town.
My daughter's headteacher was a breath of fresh air. Her view was: "Good for you, go for it. If you don't, you'll always wonder 'what if?'."
(Or maybe my daughter is really a nightmare at school and she wants her out!!! ;D )
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Unfortunately WordBird it would not matter where you were moving either abroad or in the UK someone will always have a negative slant.
Quite often you will find that these are the kind/type of person who never move out of their comfort zone whether this is 10 or 100 miles and probably has the same meals on the same day of the week..............oops if there is anyone on here who does this sorry ;) ;)
Good luck to anyone who chooses to do something different.
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Lots of people who make judgements have never been to Turkey. I met a girl I had been friends with when our kids were at school together. We had not seen each other for a number of years. I remembered she always went to Jersey on holiday. I told her we had a place in Turkey and went every year. She gave me that look and said "I would never go to Turkey, it's a dirty place". Of course, she had never been.. Glad I have not seen her for years.
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When I say I'm off to Turkey again, my best friend's husband always says "you wont get me to go there, its full of murdering Arabs". This from a person who thinks Tenerife is the place to be!!!
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Well I saw Midnight Express so would never consider going near the place !!! ;) ;) ;)
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Kevin I have had that said to me and I always now ask why they don't like Malta. ;) ;D ;)
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Well as a couple who two years ago had no idea what we would do when we retired, in July we bought our beautiful little house in Calis. We've been visiting our friends here for over 10 years and can't wait to move permanently. So I would just smile at people who react like this, and drop the subject in the knowledge that you are heading for a great adventure.
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I've seen Breaking Bad and would never go near Albuquerque
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I've seen Brookside...
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There's a hell of a lot of murders in London (Eastenders) and the Dales (Emmerdale) so don't think I will go there either. Calis seems even more inviting even with the "murdering Arabs"!!!
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Well clearly it is a good thing that we are planning to spend so much time away from Sheffield according to this piece of pretend journalism written in that other arse-wipe paper, The Express (the version of the Daily Fail for the less aspirational).
http://www.express.co.uk/comment/columnists/leo-mckinstry/443677/A-multicultural-hell-hole-that-we-never-voted-for
Can you imagine if they sent an idiot with a blunt pencil to do a piece on the expats in Fethiye. Oh sorry. They don't actually need to have been to the place or actually know anything about it.
WordBird, the tooth-sucking Negative Nancies you refer to, probably read the Express and Mail and worst still, believe what they read. Racist, insular and scared of life. Their problem.
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But they know how to treat people who break the law. no T V,s, computers, games, mobiles, etc in their cells in prison. ;)
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My husband used to work in the overseas removal industry. You would be amazed how many people packed up all there belongings and shipped them to Australia only to turn the container round on arrival after a couple of months because they decided it was a mistake and not for them. Maybe it just shows that home is where the heart is. Or you can please some people all of the time and all of the people some of the time but never all of the people all of the time.
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I've seen Brookside...
I've seen Crossroads......I'm living the dream.....
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Phil's brother lives in Texas and stated categorically that he will never set foot in Turkey...his loss. You have to laugh though as I don't think America is so much safer than here!
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It's not just Turkey - it's also the people your connection with Turkey introduces you to. As I mentioned but didn't explain at the girl's 13th Birthday party at King's Garden it is awesome to have a restaurant full of friends, hundreds of miles away from where you are from - and had you never dicovered Turkey till that day we wouldn't have known a single person in that place.
Sometimes I know friends so well that I forget that without Turkey they wouldn't be in our lives at all - it's hard to explain perhaps. We met some right sad cases over there but we also met so many of the finest people we are ever likely to meet. And continue to meet.
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while chatting to one of our neighbours a while back we mentioned we go to Turkey for our hols, his reply was " not another one " " your the fourth person this week that has told me they go to Turkey ". I asked him if he had ever been to Turkey before and his reply was " Na, I cannae stand the Arabs " :o :o :o . I asked where he did go and his reply was "been going to Benidorm for years and we love it ". He then asked if I had been to Benidorm before and my reply was " no ,we like to get away from folk like you while on our holidays ;)" , the look on his face was priceless ;D
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My Dad cannot understand why we would buy in a 'third world country' and where 'you could be bombed because you'll stand out' ( :o )
My Mum on the other hand cannot wait to help me sort the house out and spend lots of time there.
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One thing I didn't do was stand out. I spent 5 years being assumed to be a Turk :D
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my hubby has been assumed to be Turkish a few times while eating out when on our hols, mostly being asked for the bill or given drink orders from other customers when on his way back from the loo :o , this usually happens towards the end of our hols when he has his brown tan. Only once has he actually went away and got the bill for them much to the amusement of the real Turkish waiters ;D .
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Hah I used to walk up to people i knew in the Sunday market and shout "Yes Please!!" or "Cheaper than Asda price!!" - they'd never look round fully or make full eye contact and their excuses were hilarious, till they saw it was me.
I also suffered from poor Turkish language disease - Turkish people would assume I was Turkish when I came into their shop/office/hotel - then if I managed a decent opening line in Turkish they would give me 200 words a minute in reply and blow my cover. Even worse was when I was with the kids - they assumed I was Turkish, find it strange that I made out I didn't speak Turkish, then one of the twins would go straight into fluent Turkish with them. You could see it in their faces...he looks Turkish, his kids speak fluent Turkish...does he think he's funny pretending he's English? :D
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Ive been taken for Turkish, Cuban, Tunisian, Moroccan, but never English as I only speak Geordie and a bit of Turkish. ;) :)
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Friends of ours are also moving over to Fethiye next year and people often the husband is Turkish - until his lack of language gives it away!
I'm half Italian though you'd never know it to look at me - I'm fair-skinned beyond belief. Though I do wave my arms around incessantly when I'm talking....... ;D ;D
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what I hate is the, 'but how could you leave your family' well I'm going to leave them for good one day!! My daughters have already had me longer than I had my mum so they should think themselves lucky. I hope I have a lot of years yet to enjoy myself before I shuffle off, and I'm going to make the most of it (I should say we!!) ;) :)
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Everyone assumes we are Turkish, so no idea what my Dad means. It's good cos we don't get as much hassle from shops and restaurants until we open our mouths.
Bumped into someone I used to work with today. She old me her and her husband had just bought a holiday home in Mablethorpe and were hoping to retire there in a few years.
I mentioned we were doing the same in Turkey. Her response was, 'What, the foreign Turkey abroad?'
She then told me her and her husband had never holidayed abroad and never would. Apart from one trip many years ago to Cornwall, they had only ever holidayed on the East coast. And nothing could beat Mablethorpe. It was my turn to look incredulous.
This woman and her husband are at least 60. And to never have really travelled much more than 80 miles from your front door. Of course their lack of foreign travel was entirely down to xenophobia and I refrained from the usual 'travel broadens the mind' spiel. What's the point?
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what I hate is the, 'but how could you leave your family' well I'm going to leave them for good one day!! My daughters have already had me longer than I had my mum so they should think themselves lucky. I hope I have a lot of years yet to enjoy myself before I shuffle off, and I'm going to make the most of it (I should say we!!) ;) :)
"Priceless", you are so so right. ;) ;) ;)
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I was 31 when I lost my Mum and I felt so cheated. For many years after, I would be in town on a Saturday and go into a cafe for a coffee and cake. All around me were ladies of 50 and 60 with their mothers - I thought it was so unfair.
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Totally agree Marggie and Angela.
I lost my mum when I was 12 and have never really come to terms with it.
In some ways that has coloured the way I've always encouraged my kids to be independent and self-reliant.....it doesn't mean it will be easy to leave my son behind in the UK but at least I know he WILL be able to cope without me.
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You've got to do what is right for you and if it doesn't work out at least you have ventured! We left our grown up sons and grandchildren behind but we brought our two cats! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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You've got to do what is right for you and if it doesn't work out at least you have ventured! We left our grown up sons and grandchildren behind but we brought our two cats! ;D ;D ;D ;D
We're bringing ours too - getting quotes at the moment, bloody hell it's pricey....can't leave them though.
Who did you use - did they collect from your house? Not looking forward to the journey from Dalaman to wherever home ends up being either. :(
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Totally agree Marggie and Angela.
I lost my mum when I was 12 and have never really come to terms with it.
In some ways that has coloured the way I've always encouraged my kids to be independent and self-reliant.....it doesn't mean it will be easy to leave my son behind in the UK but at least I know he WILL be able to cope without me.
Wordbird that it way too young to lose your Mum. You have brought your son up to be independent and although he will miss you he will be able to lead his own life. Your time spent with him when he comes on holiday will be all the more enjoyable.
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We used Airpets, they were excellent, www.airpets.com, they are based at Heathrow. They picked them up 5 days before we flew, and did their final checks, flea and tick treatment and all the necessary paperwork. You have to be on the same flight as your pets, and liaise with the pet carrier. They supply the cats own transport box. They need to have their rabies vaccinations done before you fly out and of course their pet passports. Although expensive you will get peace of mind. They were transferred to Gatwick for our flight with Thomas Cook. The other airline which has a hold for pets is Thomson's. When we landed at Dalaman our cats were already there waiting for us in the arrival's hall. We had to go to an office first in the arrival hall and signed some paperwork, then were rushed over to the customs office for more paperwork to be done, as they close at 5pm. Glad to say it was alright in the end. Bringing our cats has helped us to settle here and they too are very happy. :)
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Looking at this from the other side of things, my youngest daughter and husband are emigrating to New Zealand next month. He is from NZ so they were always going to give it a go. Quite a bit further than UK to Turkey!
However, much as we'll miss them like crazy, we've just told them to do what is best for themselves. You can't live your lives through other people or expect children to be around for you when you get older. It's their lives to live not yours. (They'll probably put me in a home! : :))
They're giving it a go and will just see how things work out next couple of years or so. You want your children (and parents) to be happy so, hard as it is, you should send them off with your blessing and look forward to the holidays!
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absolutely wholeheartedly agree with all of the above! (we are bringing 2 dogs ) :)
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I totally agree with all the stuff that's been said about your kids and parents etc. but my mum is 87 years old, still going strong (but truthfully how much longer) my son is 40 years old but has Aspergers Syndrome which means he has no friends, finds it hard to make any sort of relationship, and spends most of his life alone, on his computer, I would love to make the move to live in Calis, but I have responsibilities that I cannot just abandon. I am very jealous of the people who are able to go ahead with the move, despite their problems, but I do wish them all the very best, and look forward to many holidays to come.
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We have lost both our mam,s this year. I couldn,t bring myself to make the move while my mam was alive. I was worried about leaving our grown up children and grandchildren behind, right up until one dropped the bomb shell she intended to go to Canada with them. It really put things into perspective for me, time for us all to live our own lives. Doesn,t mean we all love each other any less, just time to cut the apron strings a bit.