Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Calis Beach Forum => Calis Beach Questions and Information => Topic started by: lmaddy on June 17, 2007, 11:44:11 AM
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Last night our step daughter and her friends were attacked on their way home, it was approx 3am and 3 of them were walking home, 2 men were involved from what I know 1 was working as look out and 1 was exposing himself and grabbed my daughters friend. The girls tried to fight them off and luckliy 2 guys on mopeds can towards them and scared them off and the girls run off.
Ladies be very careful _ get a taxi home!
The girls are fine and we have told them to go to the police
They are a bit shaken but luckily are very level headed
PLEASE BE VERY CAREFUL
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That is awful to hear Maddy. I do hope the girls are OK.
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omg that's awful. Glad to hear the girls are ok though.
Where abouts in Calis was this?
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The girls are fine shaken but fine
My main concern is that some else might not be and how far will these 2 individuls will go - the girls in question are 21, level headed and do not take undue risks.
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where abouts was this?
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I think the police should patrol more.They are always sat in the police station in Fethiye drinking tea.It is getting a reputation for being a bit risky.
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Same as the UK
be carefull after dark
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where did it happen... its awful, hope ok
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I was walking home with my mum and sister one night. And we were getting followed by a moped up the road and then two policemen on bikes drove from out from nowhere (well the bushes actually!!???) and scared them off. The only thing is the place we were staying was just around the corner so it's not worth getting a taxi. The next few nights around the same time the police were protrolling the area - so that was reassuring to see!! But it's the same as anywhere in the world just be careful and don't walk by yourself - If you are going quite a distance get a taxi or a friend to give you a lift .x.
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The girls had been out at B52's and were walking home - about a 10/12 min walk home. It was about 1/2 way when it happened.
The police were very good & thanks to Iris & Bayram of Daisy Bar who translated for the girls & the police.
The police said they thought they may have been turkish visitors to the area though I am not convinced about this.
There were 3 girls walking together home, all live in London (if fact Louise has just spent 3 years at Liverpool university) and are quite street wise.
The girls or ladies I should say did not let it spoil their holiday & spent their last night dining at Sat.
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Thanks for eventually saying where they were attacked,sounds as though they were walking out towards Koca Calis.
i regularly walk home alone but not in that direction, and yes unfortunately i have also been followed home. i was only recently approached by some visiting turks, that what they told me they were anyway, but a very quick F%%% O%% and they got the message. The police do normally patrol around but not seen them around much this year presumably as it's quiet and i know the 2 of the locals guys have been posted to the otogar instead of Calis.
Glad to hear the girls were ok and hope it did not spoil their holiday.
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sorry to hear that...
team orange
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Why do they always blame everything from burglaries to girls getting attacked on visitors to the area?! Surely it isnt always people from outside of the area.
Jenny.x.
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I posted a similar topic last week about my neice and her friend who were followed by men in a car. The men tried to entice them into the car but they ran basically and managed to shrug them off.
This was heading back by the aqua park area.
It did give them a fright, but never had any trouble after that.
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This is quite worrying because my daughter and her friend are going to Calis on thier own in a couple of weeks. They're only 18 and living where we do, not street wise. (they think they are but they arn't). Hopefully, they'll do what I advise, get a taxi to take them home. My daughter has some self defence qualifications but you don't know how you'll react in a frightening situation.
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take a personal alarm.a quick blast down the ear ole would see anybody off.(just in case of course)
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4 of us were followed on way back from B52 after a hen night on the road towards Aydin Pide by a man on a scooter wearing a white shirt with badges just like the Police badges.
He stopped and asked if we wanted to go with him, then went off, then came back and again asked if we wanted to go to Olu Deniz.
He then followed us up the side road and kept driving up and down, then along road by apartments. We hastily went and got the men from the aparts and they apprehended him and gave him a talking to and he went off
about 10 mins later some more of our party returned and had had exactly the same experience
he gives the impression he is someone in authority when he pulls up beside because of the 'police shirt'
on another evening another man on a scooter was driving soooo slowly near us and really staring, its really unnerving
and on a 3rd occasion by the fruit market by taxi ranks 2 men behind us kept stopping when we stopped etc
we got taxis after this, but as its a 5 minute walk it was really annoying that we had to do this
be careful, they don't seem to care how many of you there are and on the 3rd occasion my tall teenage son was with us...
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:oOMG!! shocking!! I thought tourist were safe in Calis, i would never walk in the dark late at night anyway as i stay in Koca Calis, this is bad though. Glad the girls are safe!
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This is becoming a real worry, If every incident was reported the surely the police would take some notice, It worries me how many have gone without a mention, this should be taken seriously before something bad happens,
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I agree with laffa.Any such "encounter" is potentially extremely dangerous and the police should be informed of any incidents of that nature.
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this is very worrying.
me and my friend are back in turkey again.
We stay somewhere in fetiye but come to calis every night and get a taxi.
We often don't get a taxi till early morning.
Were make sure to be more careful this time.
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Just for extra safety, ask bar staff to arrange a taxi for you - they will use ones they know.
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My wife said she has never felt afraid at night. In UK yes, but not in Calis or Fethiye.Is it really that bad [?] we wanted to get away from that. In UK walking from cinema to home was a no,no. In Fethiye,myself,wife and son felt safe at 2am.
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:(How sad is that Ken, like I say the authorities need to be notified and step in, this must be nipped in the bud sharpish. ;)
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I am aware of one young lady who was approached at about 10am over a week ago as she went to work and (I believe) she crossed one of the smaller canal bridges in Calis. One guy was masturbating while the other went up to her. Unfortunately she has not reported this incident to the police as she did not think they could do anything, which is a pity.
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can this list not be printed out and shown to the police,they might step up their patrols or something?
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:o Sorry Teresa, but this is just not on, Do you think if you spoke to her she would change her mind,? Even if she sat in a police station all day,she should go, I know of a more serious incident last year that took place, the girl did go to the police but was no further action was taken, if everyone who is subject to this behaviour, or who witnesses it went, then they would have to take notice. I feel so incensed at reading this, it make me fear for the young naive girl who goes there for the first time, after being told how nice the people are and trusting the wrong one.
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Something seriously needs to be done! Last summer There was a bunch of us girls who were always together, On 2 occassions I was groped whilst just walking to where I was staying early evening and have been followed.
One night I was in the apart sleeping and was woken by banging on the door, my friend was hysterical to let her in. She had been follwed home and when she got in we looked out of the window and there was a man in the road just looking up at us! Very unsettling.
Like you Moe I know of something more serious involving an english girl which never went further than the police station.
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Heather, thats my point exactly,maybe we are talking about the same thing, but I would'nt like anyone to go through that traunatic experience, she has to live with that, not the person who went scot free.
I know there is the old chestnut that english girls get drunk and ask for trouble, but its not an excuse for a dog on heat to take advantage of this. So if anyone has had an experience like this please report it.
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The police were very good to our girls though I am not convinced that they were prepared to do something about it. I would urge any young girl to go to the police. Take a translator with you. Also if you are friendly with bar staff tell them - in the end their business will suffer so it's in their best interests to be vigilant.
Lorraine
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I didn't think it was as bad as that,although I have told young ladies who were going on holiday to Turkey to be extremely careful.Without being funny,can you get a taser in Turkey? and if necessary, apply it to the appropriate parts?I am disgusted at these events.
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:) Yes, if you can take someone turkish speaking with you, I think they would treat it more seriously, and ther's no excuse for communication breakdown, Dont forget we dont hear of every incident, and it worries me how many more there are,
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Maybe we should send out a special team of British girls trained in self defence! A few retaliations and being surrounded by laughing women when they've just been decked might nip this one in the bud.
Personally I think the Belediyes office as well as the police should be informed as it will really affect tourism. If the local paper hilighted the issue the Belediye might actually take it seriously.
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Someone needs to take it seriously, its just not on, I think to put it in any newspaper, you might need more facts as in names etc, Unless this post was shown to them. good Idea. ;)
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I too was attacked last week walking home about 2.30/3.00 am, it happened on the Aqua park junction, the boy followed me on a bike, he come up beind and tried to knock me over first then undid his trousers and ran at me, to be honest I thought I was a gonna; I am no young filly but I screamed as loud as I could, and due to it being a residential area he legged it. No need for me to add I will not be doing that again.
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Oh My God that is horrendous. You must have been terrified.
Jenny.x.
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I can honestly say I had never been as scared in my life, that was until my partner and Musti arrived and I got the biggest telling off of my life for walking home alone.
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I hope you're all OK, surely it must be the same couple/group of blokes responsible, they can't be too difficult to find & arrest, Calis is not a massive place. In the meantime, please be extra careful.
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:( How many is that now, you must have been absolutely petrified, please tell me you reported it.
It all seems to be in the same area. take care queen.x
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Musti from Scarlett talked to the police about it, but not sure how serious they took it. I had to give description, but as they told me I could have been describing anyone young boy in Calis.
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its not just about young women, the group of four of us consisted of 2 of us mums in our 40's ( the other lady lives in Calis), my teenage daughter and her 13 year old daughter.
a few weeks before this incident 2 lads on a scooter pulled up beside the 13 year old in broad daylight and one of them tried to put his hand up her skirt.... disgusting
the bars and restaurants lost out as far as we were concerned, we didn't go into town in the evening much after that as begrudged paying a taxi for a 5 min journey
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I dont blame you.This is disgusting. And good on Musti, at least its a start.
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The last time we were in Egypt albiet about seven years ago in Luxor they had tourist police and believe you me their presence would have made anyone think twice about having a go or trying to harm their tourist industry by frightening foreign visitors. They even assisted us when crossing the road. Maybe Turkey should take a leave out of their book.The fear factor will have a significant effect on the choices people have when choosing holidays, should this become widespread public knowledge. I know that this type of thing happens anywhere, but I for one will take a personal alarm with me next week - a sad indictment of how things have changed.
I must add however from a personal perspective, that in the two and a half years since buying our propery in Fethiye, we have never experienced anything like what is happening in Calis in terms of our safety being compromised, however better to be safe than sorry.- Hope everyone has a safe and happy summer. Mary
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I experienced a similar thing in Luxor and my husband was with me.
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:) But still a good point raised, to have tourist police in place, its us who like going there,and the people who have invested there that deserve better, These people who have experienced this must be doubting if Calis is a safe place.
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When we first started going to calis the police used to walk up and down the prom this was about 10 years ago and they had the police hut by the bridge what has happened to that it is now something to do with a bank i think we stayed at club e in may and had to walk the road every night i was with hubby and little girl and we did see some strange goings on then i would never have walk by myself
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I think the comment about a lack of police presence is a fair comment. Having a greater police presence would probably be a good thing for every one.
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We have just returned from our first family visit to Calis in our new apartment.
We were walking home one evening last week about 11pm towards the top of the Gunlukbasi road with our three teenage daughters. My husband and two of the girls stopped to get chocolate and beer in a little shop, and I walked on with my 15 year old daughter as we were almost home. A minibus came from outside the shop that my husband was in, and followed me and my daughter down the small lane, forcing us into the side of the road, and blocking us in. There was a man and woman in the car, and they were shouting things at us. We raced back up the lane to the main road and the rest of our family, and the minibus went off. It was very scary.
Along the same road, on a few other occasions, we had cars slowing up alongside us (despite my husband being with us). It was very unnerving, and made us not want to go out in the evenings. Hopefully it will be better in the summer when there are more people about. I definitely wont let my girls out alone though. (We got the dolmus whenever we could, but at this time of year, there weren't too many about later in the evening.)
We also had a scary experience with a young man who tried to befriend my husband whilst watching a game at the football stadium last Sunday (great game - police called to arrest one of the players/fighting etc!). The man realised how close our apartment is to the stadium when my hubby waved up to me at the balcony. He spent the next few days pestering us to come up to our apartment, knocking the doors, throwing stones at the windows etc, even bringing along a friend with a phrase book etc. He was a very odd bloke, whose intentions did not seem friendly, and he totally unnerved us all.
Did have quite a good holiday though, despite a few set backs!
Julie
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Was distressed to read about your experiences Julie. There are so many lovely people around the area. Its a shame when a few bad apples etc... Don't let it put you off the area though, I know you will come across many lovely people in this area and hopefully never encounter these experiences again.[:X]
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What an un-nerving experience for all of you Julie :( There were reports last year of ladies being followed & hassled :(
It's a shame you didn't report it to the Police, especially about the bloke who kept bothering you at your apartment [:(!]
Hope you're all OK now, glad to hear that despite your nasty experiences you still managed to have quite a good holiday :)
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Thanks for your comments Brandi and Cef.
We first came to Calis last summer and just loved it so much, we knew we wanted to spend as much time there as possible, which is why we bought an apartment. We came back end of October to furnish it (had a similar experience along the same stretch of road at that time, with just hubby and me - a car screeched up across the road. There were 4 men in there, all with cans of beer in their hands. They stopped, looked at us, made comments in Turkish, laughed and drove off, but again it did upset us.) I think this stretch of road is not the safest to be on, though there were police patrolling the whole of the last fortnight, just not close enough when we needed them!
We were told that prostitutes regularly operate in this area which is why there are so many men in cars/bikes around later in the evening. Just not good for families. I think my husband and I were more upset by it than our daughters though. Hope things are better in the summer.
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how dear hope you are ok
take the car number and report them to the police station if it happens again
they could have a word with them
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Sorry to hear of your stepdaughters ordeal Immady and I hope they are ok. I recall someone warning me here telling me about 12 months ago that to be walking around 3 4 5 am you potentially are at risk of being gang raped. I dont know what it is like during the summer months because there more people around but certainly during the winter or the quieter months.
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Hi Julie ,we actually live at the far end of the main Calis road ,Gunlukbasi end and by the corner shop the new building is a knocking shop ,it has already been shut down once to my knowledge ,and there is a lot of coming and goings last october when we were there ,we move over next week ,so i will be very vigilant ,hope yuor family are ok .Kim
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So is your place across from the Violet complex Kim?
We've an apartment on there and were horrified at this new place last year. We've a young daughter who was looking forward to her first holiday on her own with a couple of friends but I think we'll need to have a rethink.
Does anyone know if there's any point in complaining about these places? Do they just shut them down for a few weeks only to have them open up again?
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H Anne yes we are in the 12 yellow villas across the road we use the bar in Violets ,we move there next week so i will be watching.They were shut down for a few days because they had a few problems ,we also were getting a few funny looks when we walked passed there ,but it does not open till late then closes early hours of the morning. It is a bit of a eye sore . Kim
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Hi all, do you mean baris manco bulvari which is the main road, near the two mini markets and palms restaurant?
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In every village to my knowledge across turkey there is always a local knocking shop or the local village prossie to service the men during the winter months. Some places have a p0rn cinema too. Not noticed any here but then again Ive not looked for one either. In places like Antalya there are lots of them.
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Linda why only during the winter months? What happens during summer?
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did I say that? :o Sorry all year around in some villages and depending on the area and how far it in from the resorts otherwise there are plenty of willing tourists available to do the servicing free of charge during the summer months:P so I guess there will be some sort of downsizing in the knocking shops during the summer in the resort areas but not in the villages!:D
I read somewhere that prostitution is Legal here.
The hot blooded men here need regular boogie ;)
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Hi all, do you mean baris manco bulvari which is the main road, near the two mini markets and palms restaurant, really would like to know the specific area,
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Hi Kim. You'll be glad to know that the Knocking shop at the end of our road is now up for rent, hopefully for something more useful than what it was used for before! A nice resturant would be great to save cooking on the hot summer days and not too far to go.
It's sad to hear that it's come to people being frightened to go out at night and it appears it's not just women on their own who are at risk. Don't let it put you off because in general Calis is a safe place but as you would back home, stick to lit areas and stay together.
Good luck with your move Kim & Ray. See you next week.
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Bee it's right at the top of Baris Manco Bulvari in the new little shops and villas they built the year before last.
Kim, we're over 10th May so introduce yourself if your in the bar
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This might seem really extreme to some, but Iv,e heard you can buy mace spray legally in turkey,to use obviously for protection if so what is it called in Turkey and where in calis or fethiye can you buy it from, because to be honest I did feel a little intinidated around that area at night, we are just behind the shops, thanx,Bee
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I've read previous posts about being followed and break ins etc. so I did no more and brought some mace spray. Got it from the shop that sells guns and knives thats situated around the fish market in Fethiye. Well its either mace or tear gas! Its only small and fits in your handbag. Didn't cost much.
The guy even tried to sell my husband a BB gun. (I think thats what its called)
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Hi there, I'm Lorna & I have just recently joined and introduced myself.
:o :o Just want to say I am shocked to be hearing all your stories of being followed and attacked. I have been to Calis many times and have always felt really safe there even when I have walked home by myself.
I am hopefully coming over this year with my family and in-laws. My step sister will be comming too but I will be sure to keep an eye on her now after reading these comments.
I hope everyone of you are OK after these terrifying encounters and that the police do more to stop this happening again.
Take care xx
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Hi Frozen and Anne ,thank you for your kind words about our move looking forward to it so very much ,even though we don't even know you both its a nice thought .Yes we will introduce our selfs when you are over in May .Kim
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Frozen ,great news about the knocking shop closed.Kim
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Mehmets gun and fishing tackle shop is on the harbour side of the fishmarket, one of the small shops that surrounds the market . The CS Gas is very small and easy to carry...and very powerful. it costs 15 lira. it is perfectly legal.
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:)Afraid I would be walking round with more gas cannisters than lippy, You should'nt have to do that on holiday or living there, these stories are frightening when you think what could happen, to think they consider a mother and daughter easy pickings, or anyone for that matter, they definately need more policing there.
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Moe do you mean Calis in general or up near Violet?
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Just an observation, but quite a contrast at the minute. This thread and the one immediately below it (You meet the nicest people)
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Originally posted by Anne
Moe do you mean Calis in general or up near Violet?
:)I mean Calis in general Anne,its terrible to be scared of people going out when they only want to enjoy themselves. ;)
H, the nicest people thread ARE the nicest people, big contrast in topic but at least we know them. ;)
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Totally agree Laffa. Maybe we are guilty of a "rose coloured glass" attitude to Calis. It's no different from anywhere else. There's good and bad everywhere. We are fortunate indeed if we only come across the good.
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i have had no problems myself i go most places in a taxi but i have heard of these incidents and unfortunatly until they are reported to the police after each incident they will continue to happen as the people involved think they can get away with it on unsuspecting visitors
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You are quite right Highlander. I am guilty of wearing those rose tinted glasses. Each time I read of an incident like this or a break in, I find myself thinking 'oh no not in Calis that can't happen'. Of course you are right - good and bad everywhere. I can't help seeing Calis as 'that special place where nothing bad happens'. I suppose because we have been lucky, so far (will probably regret saying that now!), and every time we have come out to Calis have had the most superb time. When you stop to think about what others have experienced it is quite a wake up call.
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It's all quite scary.
Going over there tomorrow me and my friend only 17.
But normal were fine so hope the same for the following week
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Kaytee, please be careful, especially around the areas described earlier (near the aqua park/Gunlukbasi area). Just get taxis/the dolmus home at the end of the night so that you are safe.
But, most importantly, have a GREAT time. Its a fabulous country that we all love, otherwise we wouldn't be on the forum in the first place. The weather's looking good for the weekend ............... enjoy!
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:)Same here Kaytee, always err on the side of caution and you will be okay, nice to know the weather is about to change, must have waited for us to come home.:P
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LOL Laffa! We did have some good weather tho! My daughters have quite good tans, but they were prepared to lie out by the dirty pool that is not yet being maintained from first thing in the morning, whereas I (being older, and wiser!) stayed on the shaded balcony which got sunny about 4pm!
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We stay in tasyaka so never up by the aqua park so all should be fine.
roll on the sun :)
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:) Hope you & your friend have a great holiday KL :) The forecast is good for next week, enjoy yourselves 8)
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Have a good time but please, please be careful. This is being followed malarkey is nothing new. I had a nasty experience twelve years ago in broad daylight at 6.30pm.... never mind in the dark late at night.