Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Turkey Related Subjects => Turkey Discussion Forum (Not Calis specifically) => Topic started by: Jacqui Harvey on August 02, 2017, 15:49:28 PM
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Hello everyone. If this is not allowed, please delete!! But I just want to warn people about a man who goes by an alias 'JIM SMITH' his real name is WILLIAM DAVID GORDON, company name TRGBTRANS He collected my personal belongings from the UK In January with a promise of a 2 week delivery date in Bodrum. He took payment upfront. I never saw this man ever again! I had to use a third party to collect my belongings in Bulgaria and bring them here. He has refused to refund me and actually he laughs at me over messages!! 6 months I waited patiently, I got excuse after excuse!! Sometimes I wouldn't hear anything for weeks and when I would message him he would just tell me 'relax, you'll get your things soon' so I'm the end I paid double what I was supposed to! As it turns out there are ATLEAST another ten people who he has done the same thing to. So if you are considering using him, please think again!! He comes across as a very sweet man, he came to my parents house in the UK and drank tea with me and my mum while my terminally ill father was resting in the next room..... all the time knowing he was going to scam me!! He disgusts me!!! Sorry for the long post but I really want to spread the word!!!!
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Jacqui - I assume that the accusation has been corroborated by others.
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Hmmm ..... interesting. Jim's done a lot of work for people in the last couple of years and there haven't been any serious complaints. Just a few niggles about late deliveries that have been caused by delays at customs. There have however been some problems with a driver by the name of Steve Cargill who apparently, has ripped Jim and a number of customers off.
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Its on Facebook so it must be true...
JF
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My thoughts exactly JohnF! : :)
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It is on a Hisaronu Forum, where the guy who runs it is very strict. In fact, he did contact the lady in question before he allowed her to print it and said he would allow this to be printed, but would not allow any comments.
I really am sick of comments here about if it is on Facebook it must be true (of course, meaning it is not), as if everything on CBF is gospel and no one should believe people like this woman. However, if she was a member here, everyone would believe her and sympathise.
I copied it in case it would help people. However, perhaps I should tell the lady to become a member here and then if she wrote it, on the almighty CBF then she would be believed.
CBF also have a F.B Page where members write and lots of them never post on this page. Therefore, is the CBF Page on F.B. Rubbish too and should not be believed?? John and Marina, should we all think that CBF members on F.B are all lying?
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However, if she was a member here, everyone would believe her and sympathise.
,,,perhaps I should tell the lady to become a member here and then if she wrote it, on the almighty CBF then she would be believed.
Well, you don't 'alf have a lot to say on a forum that you obviously despise so much !
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No, I like this forum, but I also like the forums on F.B and am tired of members here saying F.B members are liars. I suspect most of the people saying this are not on F.B.
Animal Aid have a Party soon and Fig has 50% off it's shop goods. Both stories on F.B. However, as they are on F.B. They must be true??? Or are they???
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Jacqui - for my part I only asked if this story had been corroborated. If it has not been then the claims must remain unsubstantiated.
Why did the fellow who runs that forum not allow comments ?
I seem to recall that Trip Advisor got it wholly wrong with regard to Levissi Garden.
PS Both the events you quoted can be verified as of course you know :(
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Or put it this way…….
If we didn’t know each other and one person made derogatory remarks about your former business on Facebook, Trip Advisor or any other forum, would you expect me to immediately believe that person.
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It is on a Hisaronu Forum, where the guy who runs it is very strict. In fact, he did contact the lady in question before he allowed her to print it and said he would allow this to be printed, but would not allow any comments.
I really am sick of comments here about if it is on Facebook it must be true (of course, meaning it is not), as if everything on CBF is gospel and no one should believe people like this woman. However, if she was a member here, everyone would believe her and sympathise.
I copied it in case it would help people. However, perhaps I should tell the lady to become a member here and then if she wrote it, on the almighty CBF then she would be believed.
CBF also have a F.B Page where members write and lots of them never post on this page. Therefore, is the CBF Page on F.B. Rubbish too and should not be believed?? John and Marina, should we all think that CBF members on F.B are all lying?
That's a bit of a sweeping statement Jacqui! Of course not everything on FB are lies, but there is certainly a large part that is! Lies, scams and people who hold grudges out to make trouble for innocent people. Same as Trip Advisor. Who do you believe? The good reviews or the bad ones? Or just make your own mind up?
I am assuming you don't know the lady who posted this, or the person she was referring to so, if this is found to be untrue, could do a great deal of damage to this person. I just don't think you can go around sharing, and naming, like this unless you know the facts behind it.
And I think we've found out in the past that not quite everything on CBF is gospel! Fortunately they are usually soon found out and removed. So, I do believe most of what I read on here.
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If someone on Facebook said the sun was shining, I'd look out to check. There is a possibility they may be correct, but also a strong likelihood they are not.
If someone on CBF said the sun was shining I'd then just maybe look out to check depending on who said it.
Of course not everything on FB are lies, but there is certainly a large part that is! Lies, scams and people who hold grudges out to make trouble for innocent people. Same as Trip Advisor. Who do you believe? The good reviews or the bad ones? Or just make your own mind up?
You hit the nail on the head Marina, completely agree the above.
JF
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And I think we've found out in the past that not quite everything on CBF is gospel!
"Levissi Garden has closed down" certainly wasn't ;)
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And I think we've found out in the past that not quite everything on CBF is gospel!
"Levissi Garden has closed down" certainly wasn't ;)
Who posted that ? ;)
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Well I keep reading this over again and what shouts out to me is that this is NOT Jacqui's comment but one she read on FB. So basically I think she was trying to share something which could adversely affect our members on CBF. I would think she's trying to be helpful? It's turned quite nasty, into goading her to explain the quote, to me it feels like predators just waiting to pounce. Why are you all so angry with Jacqui? She doesn't know the answers, it's just a quote she read and shared. Or have I missed something?
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Lotty
I understand that it wasn't Jacqui's comment but she chose to post it "as fact" without any caveats whatsoever- well at least that's how I read it.
In my opinion you simply can't go around repeating accusations when you know absolutely zilch about the facts. That's why my first post was to ask if there had been any corroboration of the accusations. (Jacqui did post that a restaurant had closed down when it hadn't and that could have been detrimental to that business.)
I would reiterate my question to Jacqui - if we should immediately believe someone who made derogatory remarks about her former business. Of course we should not !!!!.
Perhaps we should all consider the proverb "What you don't see with your eyes, don't witness with your mouth."
Hope that isn't too harsh but my honest opinion is that Jacqui should have thought and/or tried to corroborate the accusations before posting about this matter.
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Well said Highlander, my thoughts too.
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I'm thinking this is Jaqcui being Jacqui..don't think she's give it anymore thought than marks has a sale on,or Yankee candles are three for two. No malicious intent,just trying to give fellow cbf members the heads up and warn us there's a n'err do well about. Yes, maybe a little more digging before putting it on the forum,as it can so easily backfire but Hindsights a wonderful thing,we are all wise with it.
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In fairness there does seem to be a variety of very unhappy customers of the guy on Facebook
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Maybe so but this is the CBF and not all members are on Facebook, the Hisaronu Forum or indeed any other forum.
I still maintain that CBF members should not post accusations "as fact" without any caveats whatsoever until and unless they have evidence that they are in fact true.
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I think Jacqui is coming in for undue stick here,looks like she saw a post on FB was concerned people don't get scammed and reposted it here.She did say it was from someone else on FB so it's for the reader to make up their own mind as to how to deal with this info.Give her a break guys
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When does "information sharing" become "rumour-mongering"? Or are they the same thing from different perspectives?
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I think that's for people to make their own minds up Colwyn otherwise half of the discussions on here may be invalid,we don't believe everything we read or hear these days so you need to make your own mind up.If Jacqui was stating this as fact or outing her own opinion on this pos either positive or negative I could see why it would be criticised or debated,but not by reposting something with what would appear to be a genuine motive of informing people about possible pitfalls.As it happens people have posted possible explanations,their experience of the company involved etc so instead of believing the headlines maybe they will take a more informed approach if deciding to use the company or not.
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As it happens people have posted possible explanations,their experience of the company involved etc so instead of believing the headlines maybe they will take a more informed approach if deciding to use the company or not.
Have these been posted on the Hisaronu Forum and if so where can I find it please.
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OMG..you want to check.. : :) ;D :D ;D ;D
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Yes - is there a reason why I shouldn't. >:(
I understood from a previous post that comments were not going to be allowed.
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Hmmm ..... interesting. Jim's done a lot of work for people in the last couple of years and there haven't been any serious complaints. Just a few niggles about late deliveries that have been caused by delays at customs. There have however been some problems with a driver by the name of Steve Cargill who apparently, has ripped Jim and a number of customers off.
.This seems to be an alternative view which maybe the phrase I should have used instead of "explanations " Highlander
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For those that are interested, the full story "first hand" from people involved, is on the facebook "Expats of Turkey lets help each other out" page.
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Cheers Baz :)
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When does "information sharing" become "rumour-mongering"? Or are they the same thing from different perspectives?
Depends on whether you're a Daily Mail reader, or a Telegraph reader. :)
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I hope you are not directing that repugnant allegation towards me, you utter cad and bounder.