Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Information and Services in Turkey Section => Telephones, Broadband and Mobiles => Topic started by: stuart on October 31, 2005, 19:20:02 PM
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has anyone registered there mobile phone here yet if so how? my mobile nos not on the computors register therefore will be cut off if i dont register it soon. i understand it cost 5ytl but tried to pay turk telcom at main fethiye office yesrterday, they new about it but didnt know how to register, told me to wait till i got info on mobile message as they were in the dark the same as me. will try some of the turkcell shops next!! i think all uk bought mobile phones with turkish sim cards will be blocked in the future if no action is taken. i think we have till december to do it!![?]
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A lot of people have tried to register around the country,including Istanbul, without success.
My wife tried to register in Antalya and was told to wait until November to register. The mobile message is, I believe, a warning that you will be blocked. In any case you have until the 13th of December. that is when all phones will be blocked.
All phones bought outside of Turkey will be affected.
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So does that mean my turkish sim wont work next year if I dont register it soon? If so can anyone out there advise on how to avoid that situation. Is there a website for example that we can use- if its possible to do it remotely that is? I'm sure there are many of us who have got Turkish sims who wouldnt want to start over with a new one next visit.
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Even with a Turkish sim card, if the phone was not bought in Turkey it will be blocked.
I don't think you can do it remotely. The website with the information ( in Turkish) is
www.http://imei.tk.gov.tr
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So basically anyone with a Turkish sim and a non-turkish phone is screwed and will have to get a new one next year. Is that correct? will we have to buy Turkish hardware too? Makes me laugh, the number of handsets weve given away over the years to waiters etc! What a bummer.
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All you need to do is take your phone to one of the shops in Fethiye and get it "chipped" :)
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i think this is a different issue than just getting it chipped!! if you dont regester your phone as apollo says before dec 13 you will be permenantly blocked and so far no one seems to have been able to get registered!! this may be a way of getting people to buy thier phones in turkey in the future...watch this space!!
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I too went to Turk telecom to register my english handset, they looked at me as if I had just jumped off another planet.
But I have read somewhere else that you will not have to buy another handset just pay Turk Tele com 5ytl to register you phone! Turk Telecom must be running out of money! but I suppose it would be a good idea to inform the staff first of any changes, makes a change where we are the ones usually to learn last.
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Is this referring to English/foreign handsets fitted with Turkish sims or all handsets? I can't see people coming on holiday for 2 weeks being impressed if their phones don't work. Sounds a bit odd!
Teresa
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There is an article in land of lights will see if i can dig it out
Ron
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This is the information that is needed. debates have been on going elsewhere on the web. Apparently if you have an English sim and whatever handset that is not a problem, the problem is only going to arise when you put a Turkish Sim card in to a phone other than one purchased in Turkey! stinks don't it?
Registering the Mobile Phones
The contraband mobile phones should be registered until the end of October and as of December 13, 2005 unregistered phone will be blocked.
In order to learn whether your phone is contraband or not please follow the below instructions.
1. Click *#06# and enter YES and 15-digit number appears on the screen of your phone (in some phones you do not need to enter Yes for the number). This is IMEI number of your phone.
2. Visit the web site http://imei.tk.gov.tr/ IMEI Sorgulama (IMEI Inquiry) page appears. Write there your 15-digit IMEI number ( e.g. 123456789012345). Then press "Sorgula" key. Sometimes two more numbers appear together with the IMEI number, take no notice of them.
3 The situation of your phone appears below if it reads "Kayitli" (Registered), it means there is no problem. If it reads "Bulunamadadi" (not found) this means you should register your phone to Turk Telecom by paying 5 YTL.
If you neglect to take this action first you get a warning message and then your phone will be blocked on December 13th . From then on you cannot use it within Turkish borders.
The website is Turkish Telecom, so why do the staff not know about it?
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So is this presumably an amnesty period for existing phones and in future it will not be possible to use a Turkish sim card unless you buy the phone in Turkey. Are they that much more expensive in Turkey then?
Teresa
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Loz
The link above doesn't appear to work any more. I clicked on the link on the page that did come up but it doesn't work (for me anyway, BUT it could be down to AOL as it has been worse than useless for over a month now).
Do other people manage to open links?
Linda
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well for the time being we have a turkish phone and a english purchased phone, so i am keeping both to see what happens.
phones are approx the same price here as in UK, i have a bog standard one, hubby has all dancing english version, still it dont do the dishes!!!
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Teresa
We priced up phones in June. There was very little difference in basic phones similar to the one we had. There was also very little difference in the all singing & dancing varieties that our friend Dave priced up.
On all phones we looked at the difference was less than a fiver. Dave was surprised as his he'd really looked hard here (the month before he bought it) & the same phone was just £5 more in Turkey. Others he'd priced were the same price or very little difference.
Don't know whether we just price compared in the cheapest phone shops in Fethiye by luck but wouldn't have thought so.
Linda
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Linda,
Delete the coma at the end of the link and it will work. But basically if you brought your mobile from the uk it is not registered,so the link is not much help
Also try this link www.mymerhaba.com - look in Forums under Registering Mobile phones. It is very informative but still leaves you much in the dark as to sorting it now. Hopefully things will be clarified before long or thousands of mobile phones in Turkey will be as useful as a chocolate teapot. :)
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40% of the phones in Turkey have been smuggled in from abroad. This is the goverments way of clamping down on this and get some tax revenue back.
There will be a SMS going out to all phones this month and from what I heard, you just reply to it and then get deducted 5 lira off your bill.
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Thanks for that Haluk, it always helps to know the reasons why and whilst we may not agree it does begin to make more sense now.
Linda :)
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We will not be in Calis until December 16th. Will that be too late to register our phones?
Pete
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Haluk....You don't have a bill on pay as you go so how do they deduct 5YTL from it ?
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Can they just deduct 5YTL from your credits?
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Does this apply to all sim cards on other networks. We have an Avea sim card, we only purchased it in October so I hope its not going to be usless when we get back in May. Does anyone know if it can be unblocked next year??
I have been searching the web and cannot find any info about it, even on Turkcell website and Avea or maybe I am looking in the wrong place.
Karen & Mark
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reading the info it appears that the sim cards are ok it is just the phones. will have to wait and see. no messages received as yet on either the english handset or the Turkish one.
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It has nothing to do with which Turkish sim card you have. Its the actual phone itself. everything is very grey at the moment but from what I heard you can activate the phone after the cut off date for 5 lira or for free if you show the original receipt (Turkish not UK receipt).
Not sure how pay as you go works as I dont have one but I guess they will just take off 5 liras worth of credits from your account.
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as i undeertand it,as have been in a few phone shops today in fethiye, you will have to register the phone with the turkish phone company turk telecom, you will not get it deducted of your sim cards as they are differnt companys, you will have to go in with your phone before the 13th to the telecom office and pay them 5ytl after that all phones that are not registered will not work here with a turkish sim card...unfotunatley nobody seems to have told the turk telecom office in fehiye how to go about this, am having another t.i.t. moment..this is turkey!!
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I have been told by Turkcell that they will deduct the amount from your phone. Its just a case of waiting gor the SMS. I cant see 20 million plus people getting their phones processed and registered at the TT office in a window of a few weeks, can you?
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i was in a few turkcell shops today and they say its turkish telecom you pay, this is understandable as its the phones imei no they are working on not the avea,turkcell etc sim cards and as its only phones that have -not- been registered ie. british bought phones with turkish sim cards. that there is a problem with so i hardly think it will come to millions of people. it was also on the turkish news last night and my mrs translated for me. i just hope they get round to telling thier staff at turk telecom how to register the phones before i get cut off!!
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Like I said, 40% of all phones have been brought from outside Turkey. As almost everyone has a phone and even the eskici's have them. so lets say out of the population of 70 million, around 50 have mobile phones, that still leaves 20 million phones that have been bought "under the counter". Also the person that informed me at Turkcell is very high up in the company, said that TT wont be able to handle all the registration so all the networks are doing their bit for their customers.
It will be interesting considering no other country in the world has tried this before.
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it sure will and considering the number of fliipin handsets weve given away over the years to turkish people. I think its a liberty!
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is that what the queue is!!
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I guess we all missed this one - it was published in the Turkish Daily news on 27 July this year! See the article here forall the 'spin'!
http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=18856
[Registration required to read the full story]
xox
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can some help me with this but I may be wrong in thinking that when I purchased a sim card in Fethiye for my old nokia phone from the Uk, I had to produce my passport and if I remember the chap in the shop took a note of the IME number on the phone and entered this on a form that i signed and I had to wait 24 hours for the sim and credits to be activated. Does this mean that the phone is registered or is it just the sim card?
UPDATE @22.03!
it seems that I was wrong in thinking that my phone was registered.
We will not be over again until May/June next year. does this mean that I will have to buy a new phone over there or can you still register after the 14th December?
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thanks fethiye, that seems to throw light on the situation. i think we will just have to wait and see when and how we pay!!
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I've read all the info on this topic. Can I just get clarification - I can't use my UK mobile phone with a Turkish Sim card and have to buy a new Turkish mobile phone? Perhaps I'm a liitle naive, but how do the Turkish networks know that I'm not using a Turkish phone? (sorry, I'm a little dim!)
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i had an english phone out there. the only way i could use a turkish sim (with turkcell) was to have an ''operation'' on my phone.
Rach xx
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Was it painful? Could I have an operation on my phone when I go out (probably not till next year) too?
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Any phone that is unlocked will work in Turkey. The networks know about the phone through its IMEI number, like a serial number for the phone.
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OK. So when we were in Calis a couple of weeks ago, we took an old phone with us with the idea of leaving it in our apartment for anyone to use. We didn't have it unlocked or registered. Does that mean that when we want to use it next year, we won't be able to get it unlocked or even if we do, we still won't be able to use it because we didn't have the IMEI number registered in Turkey?
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There is another article on this on the Fethiye Times web page.
http://www.fethiyetimes.com/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=251&Itemid=58
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i think there is a bit of confusion here about getting a uk phone unlocked so that it can accept turkish sim cards, most of us have done this, the problem now is that if we dont act and register our phones with turk telecom they will be blocked bye thier serial no. through the turkish phone net work.this has to be done by 14th dec. up till now as far as i can see we have been unable to register them and all are waiting for instructions when and how to......does that make sense??
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email to turk telecom
Merhaba ...... I am British with Turkcell sim in British phone ...... I do not return to Turkey until 28 December ..... can I register my mobile phone after 14 December? ..... thank you
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It's always possible to register your phone via your Turkish GSM service providers (Turkcell, Telsim or Avea) registration or SIM card selling centers.
With my best wishes.
Dr. M. ALTUNER
I think this means that people returning after 14th wil lstill be able to register.
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Well done, Amca, that is a great help to us as we will be in Turkey (Calis) on December 16.
Thanks
Pete and Sue
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quote:
Originally posted by Elsa Padfield
Was it painful? Could I have an operation on my phone when I go out (probably not till next year) too?
Ha Ha :D
Thats what i had done to my phone and it's absolutley fine :D:D
Rach xx
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can i go back to the original question has any one manged to actually regester ther imie no. since this new requirement has come out? if so where
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We have tried twice in Antalya and failed. We are trying again on Monday at a different office.
The clerk here understands what is required but the system does not seem to be set up yet.
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Have spoken to a couple of Turkish people about this and they both came up with basically the same answer "This is Turkey....it may never happen" :D
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Newsflash everyone.
This insane idea has been put back 12 months.
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Hi.
I hope this idea really has been postponed as we would all be without mobile phones here in Turkey!!!
It is a crazy thought really. Haluk, have you heard somewhere for definate that this is true?
Debbie.
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was on national turkish news night before last
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The turkish goverment have put this on hold for another year now was in turkish press
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Have received this morning a text from my mobile phone company saying (I think with my limited Turkish ) that I must pay 5YTL or have the equivalent credits deducted from my phone. This is with Starcep. I will later post the exact message so maybe our Turkish Friends on the Forum can confirm or otherwise. :)
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Here is the text received.
*************** IMEI NOLU KAYITDISI CIAHAZINIZIN KAYDEDILMESI ICIN 5YTL HEDIYE KONTORDEN DUSECEKITIR KAYDETTIRMEK ISTEMEZSEN KAPAT BOSLUK IMEI No YAZ 7527E GONDER.
Anyone like to clarify this[?]
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if victor meldrew was here i know what he would be saying!!
looks like the bun fight is on again... i got my turkish mrs to look up the turkecell website just now and it appears once again we have till dec13th to go and register unregistered mobiles , method by going into a turkcell shop and paying 5ytl....so will go there tommorow!!
tiring isint it??and confusing!! will let you know the outcome...
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right.... i registered my phone today at the zaman turkcell phone shop in fethiye opposite the school down from the ptt...cost 5ytl apparently you have till the 13th dec to do it and there were long queues there so had to wait. this was the only shop i was aware of doing this for turkcell customers, telsim where doing it elsewhere.
thats it folks.. what will happen to people that have registered i dont know
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Thanks for that Stuart....at least the system seems to be in place now. Will try to do mine tonight if they are still open when I go out or maybe Monday. :)
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If you by Kontors Turkcell will automatically deduct 50 Kontors. Unless you tell them otherwise.
We are now waiting to see what happens to ours.
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We received a second message yesterday, which tells us that the phone is now registered.
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Another message about registration.
CIHAZINIZ KAYIT ALTINA ALINMISTIR AYRICA ISLEM YAPMANIZA GEREK YOKTUR IYIGUNLERDE KULLANIN.TELSIM
This one has lost me...can anyone translate please :)
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tribalelder
Your mobile phone is now registered and you can use your phone as usual. Have a nice day.
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Thanks Apollo...You are a Star! :)
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Hi there i wont be able to register my phone by 13th DEC I'm not
back out there till April what happens then does anyone know i always get turkcell when there .
Lance [?]
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I think that you are able to register after the 13th. Your phone will then be unblocked. You will probably need proof of ownership, receipts etc.
I believe this is the case but I could be mistaken.
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Ok Guys I've been on the IMEI site tonight (first time I've been able to get onto it in the last week) And I get
KAYIT BULUNAMADI!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Registered and not found!!!!
As per the quote from Loz -
3 The situation of your phone appears below if it reads "Kayitli" (Registered), it means there is no problem. If it reads "Bulunamadadi" (not found) this means you should register your phone to Turk Telecom by paying 5 YTL.
I'm not in Turkey til the 24 Dec and have been using a Turkcell card in my UK mobile (and no I don't have the receipt, I think it was an upgrade)!!
HELP ............. please :)
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I have lost the plot on this one!! my phone was not registered, i did not queue up to pay my 5YTL so did nothing, i now have a message that my phone is registered and I have not had any credits taken either! i purchased 100 extra credits thinking they may take off the next lot i purchase but NO, so it is now 16th December and still working.. I give up..
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We will be coming out later today so let's hope hope we find out the same as you, Loz
Pete and Sue
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Loz
Do you mean to say that I've been doctoring an old Vodaphone bill for nothing??????????
I shall find out on the 24th!!
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Ali I have not a clue! it is still working and the credits are still there, I am not worrying, just miffed...lol
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Since registration, our kontors have not been taken off. This includes all other calls we have made.
Probably best to keep topping them ujp because no doubt they will all be deducted at once.
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Beware!!
I arrived 24 Dec - turned on phone ......... no messages!!
Bought some more units on 28 cos I thought I'd better have some just in case. Checked and I had 219 units................................
3 x texts and 2 x calls (short) later I am down to 159 units :(
I had no message to say anything??????? Confused or what. I'm with Turkcell and they don't seem to have a clue in the phone shops I went into in Istanbul!!!!!!!!
Tried to ring Turkcell but after hanging on for about 15 mins I gave up.
How's everyone else getting on?
Ali
PS haven't tried going on line yet to see if the phone is actually registered yet - that'll be a game for later with a glass of wine :)
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Guess what ................ KAYIT BULUNAMADI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Guess I'll just go and have another glass of wine !!!!!!!!!! And worry about it another day!
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Oh dear Ali, my phone is still working and no credits taken even when I topped up just incase. so until it gives up the ghost we will keep using it.
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I'm on ARIA/AVEA and nothing's happened with mine. Went to AVEA shop got blank look, guess I'll just wait until something happens!
BTW as a point, AVEA have a very good Tariff called Mobile Advantaj 3 Kontors to any network or landline in Turkey per minute. Worth looking at if you don't have a sim already.
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i dont know if this has anything to do with the thread, far to long to read, but ive been told that soon you will not be able to use an english phone over in turkey with a turkish sim in? im not sure how much of this is true if any?? has anyone eles heard this? lv ya xjx
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DO read the thread....It will answer your question. :)