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Re: Holiday Let New Controls
« Reply #250 on: May 07, 2017, 20:56:23 PM »
That's the difference between Turkish / Napoleonic and UK law. In Turkish law it's up to the accused to prove a negative.  :)



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Re: Holiday Let New Controls
« Reply #251 on: May 07, 2017, 21:35:20 PM »
In answer to Cenk, you can't prove either way unless you have documents of some kind proving their payment or non-payment. But as i understand the Police were a little relaxed about it. He didn't say we need proof but he did say at first there will be a warning before a fine.

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Re: Holiday Let New Controls
« Reply #252 on: May 07, 2017, 21:55:13 PM »
But as i understand the Police were a little relaxed about it. He didn't say we need proof but he did say at first there will be a warning before a fine.

Pretty much same as I've been told.

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Re: Holiday Let New Controls
« Reply #253 on: May 07, 2017, 22:10:51 PM »
In answer to Cenk, you can't prove either way unless you have documents of some kind proving their payment or non-payment. But as i understand the Police were a little relaxed about it. He didn't say we need proof but he did say at first there will be a warning before a fine.
I am speaking as a person who had spoken to police face to face many times about this subject. I have respect what you think about the subject. It will be your choice to take risk or not.


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Re: Holiday Let New Controls
« Reply #254 on: May 08, 2017, 00:45:38 AM »
Let's face it - it's impossible to prove that you haven't been paid for someone staying at your house. How can you prove something that hasn't happened?

It's a killer for those of us who let friends and family stay (who do not share your surname).

Turkish businesses will lose out. Less shopping, fewer cleans required, less eating and drinking, fewer Dolmus rides, fewer trips purchased, fewer transfers, less water and electric used. The list is endless.

Such a shame for those who let friends and family stay but now can't, or dare not!

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Re: Holiday Let New Controls
« Reply #255 on: May 08, 2017, 07:23:23 AM »
Someone said on FB that it won't be this legislation that kills tourism.
It will be the unregistered madman on the beach.
Food for thought.


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Re: Holiday Let New Controls
« Reply #256 on: May 08, 2017, 08:42:49 AM »
Someone said on FB that it won't be this legislation that kills tourism.
It will be the unregistered madman on the beach.
Food for thought.


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Still not convinced this isn't about tax revenue, sorry.

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Re: Holiday Let New Controls
« Reply #257 on: May 08, 2017, 10:54:44 AM »
Of course it's about tax !

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Re: Holiday Let New Controls
« Reply #258 on: May 08, 2017, 11:51:38 AM »
Still not convinced this isn't about tax revenue, sorry.

I think it's a threefold objective:

1) Assisting the fight against terrorism by regulating short lets
2) Appeasing the tourism & hotel organisations due to their lobbying against the AirBNB type market by making this type of letting more difficult
3) Raising tax revenue that had previously gone unreported, or in some cases misreported.

You can't really argue against 1) & 3) - however 2) will, to a certain extent, damage tourism and NOT necessarily fill all those missing bed nights the hoteliers are complaining about.  It's a different market most of the time.

In answer to Cenk, you can't prove either way unless you have documents of some kind proving their payment or non-payment. But as i understand the Police were a little relaxed about it. He didn't say we need proof but he did say at first there will be a warning before a fine.
I am speaking as a person who had spoken to police face to face many times about this subject. I have respect what you think about the subject. It will be your choice to take risk or not.

I think the issue here is pure Turkey - speak to a dozen officials and you'll receive a dozen different interpretations of the same piece of legislation - and you're right, it is up to the individual to make their choices.

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Re: Holiday Let New Controls
« Reply #259 on: May 08, 2017, 13:52:01 PM »
Here's a question then - if I want to let someone stay in our place at no cost then how do I prove they haven't paid?

By that I mean is there something I can get signed that the authorities would accept? If there is something and it only costs a nominal fee then I'm sure many would be happy to let friends and family stay for free.

Or is it just assumed cart blanche that anyone who stays has paid?




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