Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Other Local Resorts & Areas => Hisaronu Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Sleuth on June 21, 2012, 10:00:05 AM
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Last night in Hisaronu for virtually the first time this season it actually appeared very busy .. at last people are arriving 8) but Hisaronu has to be careful because unfortunately the centre of H is fast becoming a `mini Marmaris`.The noise volume in H has always been a problem, but now, the noise volume is horrendous from about 9.30pm onwards >:( and popular restaurants such as the Suntrap, Bees knees, Robin Hood,Piano Bar, The Whiteman, to name a few, whilst eating in any of them, its impossible almost to hold a conversation... walking between the Harmony Night Club and the Bar rumba opposite at night is an awful experience. If only the owners of these establishments bothered to look around them and take note of 90% of the visiting tourists they would observe that the majority are around middle age and upwards, or couples with young kids, who dont want to hear in their faces `boom boom rap rap` at mega volume, all within 100 metres of the village centre !!!There`s far too many `dancing on the bar boys` bars...It could force visitors up to the quieter areas of H which would become a good thing as they need the custom ( nice to see the london garden bar was even busy for once last night ) or worse, it could deter visitors from visiting H again next year . There are no Zabita police around any more in H to try to enforce and restrict the noise volume, so now its a `free for all`
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This is a real shame as although when we are over on the odd occasion we will venture down to H for a nose around we have noticed that even strolling around it can be almost impossible to hold a conversation and if you do fine somewhere you fancy stopping at you have blaring music coming from all directions so that you cannot clearly hear the tune of any.
I agree with the general "type" of person holidaying in H and cannot for the life of me work out why most of the bars are aiming their attention at such a small section of the visitors there.
If the music was toned down to a reasonable level I feel that they would attract a greater volume of customers.
We live in hope :(
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There`s far too many `dancing on the bar boys` bars.......
Oh come on, you can never have too many boys dancing on bars.... ;) ;D
Having said that, i do totally agree. We like to mooch around too, love a little gift shop there and enjoy a meal at the Dragonara most visits, but hate to be drowned out by music. If I want to hear it, I'll chose to go into that particular bar...i don't need to hear it half way down the street .
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Pookie, Speak for yourself....boys dancing on Bars not for me thanks but if you see a girl version please post where ;) ;)
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Unfortunately the music in most of the bars is played for the benefit of the staff, not the punters.
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absolutely correct KKOB !!!! Thats it exactly !!
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We had 5 holidays there from 2001. Each year it got noisier. Now if we visit H, it is to look in the shops on the way to Kaya. We never linger for a meal, its not worth it. The food might be good but who wants to bellow over that racket! The restaurant owners talk of wanting more "Quality Customers". These are the customers who will sit and have a 3 course meal (say) with drinks, coffee and maybe a brandy or something after, but what incentive have quality customers go to spend their money there is it involves sitting in Bedlam?
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Or even if it involves sitting in Bedlam. ;D ;) ;D
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I love the area but Hisaronu is a classic example of 'overkill' in every respect. I still enjoy a stroll round in the day time, looking at the shops and perhaps lunch and I like market day but I will never go anywhere near the place at night, it's like hell on earth! There was a time an overly noisy place got closed down for a day or two as punishment, there was also a clamp down on 'pushy' people outside restaurants at one time. It is sad to see the place as it is now.
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Was action against "pushy" restaurant people taken in Calis a few years ago.
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The ministry of environment and urban planning announced new laws and regulations against noise pollution. They made the belediyes responsible to set up appropriate teams and obtain necessary noise measuring devices , to make inspections and deal with complaints.
From April 1st , 2010 Ölüdeniz Belediye is the responsible authority against noise pollution in this area.
The more complaints , the more they will be forced to do ( I hope ).
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Well a group of us "oldies" are going tonight and personally I am looking forward to the boys dancing on the bars.. We have a meal in Hissy about every 2 weeks and enjoy our nights out there. We dont do "clubbing" but we do do enjoying ourselves once in a while.
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We where over to Hissy one night a couple of weeks ago and had a meal and afterwards a walk around the town, but the noise was really overbearing from each place trying to outdo the nextdoor and we eventually had to wallk in the middle of the road to get away from all the bar and shop owners trying to get us into their places and being really pushy. We gave up and were relieved to leave and go back to Calis.
We love Hissy during the day to shop, have lunch go to Booty, but in future will give the night time a miss.
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I dont ever have a problem with pushy restaurant staff the odd ones ask you to try them but thats it NO is sufficient.
The noise is really over bearing though.
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It seems the fewer visitors the pushier they get, which is understandable to a point because there are so many places vying for the same few punters, however what they don't seem to realise, with this pushiness and the booming racket, they are themselves partly responsable for the downturn! I suppose this Magaluf type horror might appeal to some but I rather think not to the majority! It doesn't help that most of these Turks are off comers and have been brain washed into believing that most 'Brits abroard' are beer swilling rebel rousers, it dosen't seem to occur to them that there are a vast number of people that prefer things toned down somewhat, and that they could have all these people in their establishments every day and night, if they hadn't shot themselves in the foot wayback when they let Hisar go wild!
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It seems that there is a communications gap between the visitors and the owners of the facilities. If you are in the tourism business , you have to please the customers in order to earn money. One or two shop owners might not know how , but what are all the authorities then doing ? The tourism officials , belediye , tourism organisations and chambers of hoteliers , restaurants , bars and other businesses etc keep on complaining every year that their businesses are going worse year by year , but can't find proper solutions. The main reason is , that they try to solve the problems emotionally rather than logically , I think ; this is the turkish way of solving problems.
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well said carlan and libra !!
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One thing also that I don't get about places like Hisaronu - there is no real scene for youngsters like Ibiza or similar places. You can play all the music you like at whatever volume you like but there is no young scene there really. If there are any groups of young men going on holiday to Hisaronu (or Olu Deniz, Calis etc) God help them - they are going to struggle to find similar groups of young ladies (for "socialising" etc) as the few you do see are totally smitten by the local barmen/waiters. I could be wrong but that is how I always saw it.
Better to turn the volume down and wake up to who they see walking past - as mentioned already by others.
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Absolutely true Keith... The girls ( and they parade around in groups ) are only focussed on the turkish barstaff..I remember when our youngest son paid his first visit to Hisaronu in 2004 with his mate.. They were only 23, and at night , being young red bloodied males.. they were trying to `mix` it with the english girls at the bars... After their first night , he said to me the following morning " Dad, trying to attract girls here is a waste of time, we gave up...there were loads about, but all they do all night is sit at the bar and gaze and focus on the bar staff... its a waste of time for us :(
After their first night they gave up pursuing the girls... but they still had a fun week in H
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We only ever go to The Tropical Bar on the edge of Hissy opposite the Peking Chinese. Have been going for 5 years and seen many of the same family members working there. Some move on to Marmaris and Olu Deniz but the music there is generally suited to the people who are in the bar. Modern and older stuff early evening and then boom boom music later when the bar gets enclosed. Lovely staff with same owners for years. Not pushy and generally good Kareoke singers after the dancing. Not everyones cup of tea but every 2 weeks it is ours. Barrie cant see the point to Hissy. A resort that isnt a resort and miles to the beach but he tolerates our two weekly run up the hill.
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Poor Hisar, it's a bit of an 'orphan Annie', a manmade blot on the landscape that doesn't really fit in! Turkey didn't need another 'hell hole' resort, if you can call it a resort. There are still plenty of people out there who would much prefer a chillaxing holiday in the country away from it all, Hisar had it on a plate, then the green eyed monster reared it's ugly head and 'bang' we've got what we see today!
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I suppose different strokes for different folks. If you go to T.A. there is a Forum for Hisaronu and the people on there are so delighted with the place and go back year after year. It's a strange fact, but there is no Forum for Calis Beach on T.A. it is under Fethiye, which is really confusing for some people.
But getting back to Hissy, I would not miss it during the day, great shopping and good beauty salons, but could not be there in the evenings.
Just as well we are all not the same.
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http://www.fethiyetimes.com/news/44-news/7014-news-snippets-week-ending-23rd-june-2012.html
Seems like the loud music will be stopped shortly or bar owners will face heavy fines.
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I want to be optimistic , but it 's the repeated scenario like in the past years. One month of the season gone and they react now. All this should have been spoken before the season start without waiting for complaints.
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But will they enforce it ? we`ve been here before :(
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I agree whole heartedly with all the above, we have had some greatv times in Hisaronu, fabulous place for people watching, but the noise level is horrendous, I think it's true that it is what the bar staff want rather than the customers. I would not ever entertain the idea of Marmaris in the holiday season, and I would hate H to be tarred with the same brush.
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As I've said previously I do love Hisar during the day, now if the authorities were to practice what they preach I would be more than happy to try Hisar again at night. However, as Sleuth says, we've been here before. If they do clamp down I can't help feeling it will be short lived and when the dust has settled Hisar will soon revert to it's old ways as it has before.
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Poor Hisar, it's a bit of an 'orphan Annie', a manmade blot on the landscape that doesn't really fit in! Turkey didn't need another 'hell hole' resort, if you can call it a resort. There are still plenty of people out there who would much prefer a chillaxing holiday in the country away from it all, Hisar had it on a plate, then the green eyed monster reared it's ugly head and 'bang' we've got what we see today!
I started researching "Cittaslow" cities , maybe I'll choose a new place to move next : http://www.cittaslow.org/
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I went there a few weeks back with 4 of my other middle aged lady friends, we had a great time, loved the boys dancing on the bars, loved the music and loved the atmosphere, it is what it is. I wouldn't want to take my husband or family there but us ladies had a scream ;)