Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Other Local Resorts & Areas => Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum => Topic started by: nichola on July 30, 2013, 08:18:09 AM
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Figures for tourist arrivals staying in the Fethiye area including the resorts of Çaliş, Hisarönü and Ölüdeniz are reported to have increased by 15 percent in the 7 months to July 2013.
http://www.fethiyetimes.com/news/44-news/7375-fethiye-tourist-numbers-up.html
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From what I'm hearing its the dire state of the pound versus the euro that's sending more people to Turkey, plus the good exchange rate with the Turkish lira. The bad publicity with drunken youngsters in resorts such as Marmaris, is making people look further afield, hence more tourists in places such as Fethiye.
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From what I'm hearing its the dire state of the pound versus the euro that's sending more people to Turkey, plus the good exchange rate with the Turkish lira. The bad publicity with drunken youngsters in resorts such as Marmaris, is making people look further afield, hence more tourists in places such as Fethiye.
The £ is not in 'dire straits' against the Euro echogirl, other way round. The £ is much stronger against the Euro v last year. The only reason the £ is not even stronger against the Euro is because of the Billions that have been borrowed & ploughed into keeping the Euro afloat.
http://www.ecb.int/stats/exchange/eurofxref/html/eurofxref-graph-gbp.en.html
The £ v TL is very good for those with £'s in their pockets at the moment. But the cost of actually getting & staying in Turkey has become prohibitively expensive for many, especially those with family's. It's Much, much cheaper for Brits to holiday in Spain, Portugal etc etc.
Various, murders, assaults, civil unrest in Turkey etc, haven't helped their image as a safe holiday destination. You'll find drunken rowdiness everywhere, I've certainly seen enough of it in Turkey, being committed by the Turks themselves...........
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How's your job as Tourism Minister for Turkey going Cef? Perhaps you need to look at changing your role a bit ;D
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Don't worry about all that - have you had your breakfast yet ?
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The £ is not in 'dire straits' against the Euro echogirl, other way round. The £ is much stronger against the Euro v last year. The only reason the £ is not even stronger against the Euro is because of the Billions that have been borrowed & ploughed into keeping the Euro afloat.
Twelve months ago the rate was €1.28 to the £1, today it's €1.15 to the £1.
Please explain to me in what aspect is the pound is currently stronger than the euro compared to twelve months ago?
JF
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The £ is not in 'dire straits' against the Euro echogirl, other way round. The £ is much stronger against the Euro v last year. The only reason the £ is not even stronger against the Euro is because of the Billions that have been borrowed & ploughed into keeping the Euro afloat.
Twelve months ago the rate was €1.28 to the £1, today it's €1.15 to the £1.
Please explain to me in what aspect is the pound is currently stronger than the euro compared to twelve months ago?
JF
The average is +.05% against the Euro v "last year" John.
Quote Menthol: "How's your job as Tourism Minister for Turkey going Cef? Perhaps you need to look at changing your role a bit ;D" end quote:
Lol, could be better mate ;)
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The £ is not in 'dire straits' against the Euro echogirl, other way round. The £ is much stronger against the Euro v last year. The only reason the £ is not even stronger against the Euro is because of the Billions that have been borrowed & ploughed into keeping the Euro afloat.
Twelve months ago the rate was €1.28 to the £1, today it's €1.15 to the £1.
Please explain to me in what aspect is the pound is currently stronger than the euro compared to twelve months ago?
JF
The average is +.05% against the Euro v "last year" John.
You really haven't got a scooby about how to interpret the data contained in the graph you quoted, have you? Don't give up the day job comes to mind.
What you posted plainly shows that the Euro has gained 11.2% against the pound over the past twelve months, which as anyone who purchases euros on a regular basis (as I do), is fully aware of. Where you get an average of +0.05% I really do not know.
JF
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Oop's - typo should have read '- '0.5% v Last year, "GBP 1 = EUR 1.1529 -0.0053 (-0.5%)"
Hands up, nobody's perfect! No great improvement as I previously stated but without the Euro being bolstered by billions from tax payers money, it would be a very different story. It's still a very good improvement on the near parity it had a couple of years back, don't you think?
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Oop's - typo should have read '- '0.5% v Last year, "GBP 1 = EUR 1.1529 -0.0053 (-0.5%)"
That's the daily change, as in the difference from the current rate versus the previous day.
Would you like a shovel?
JF
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Oop's - typo should have read '- '0.5% v Last year, "GBP 1 = EUR 1.1529 -0.0053 (-0.5%)"
That's the daily change, as in the difference from the current rate versus the previous day.
Would you like a shovel?
JF
Deary me, experiencing more 'blonde/senile moments than I realised! Ok, the £ is nearly as bad/good as it was 2 years ago but, still much better than a few years ago when it was near parity, don't you think?
http://www.ecb.int/stats/exchange/eurofxref/html/eurofxref-graph-gbp.en.html (2 year spread)
http://www.ecb.int/stats/exchange/eurofxref/html/eurofxref-graph-gbp.en.html (5 year spread)
You can keep your shovel John, you've more use for it than I :)
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I don't think anything - at least nothing I'd like to share on an open forum when it comes to "the shovel".
Please be more careful when posting information like this, there are those who actually do believe everything they read on an internet forum.
JF
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Please be more careful when posting information like this, there are those who actually do believe everything they read on an internet forum.
JF
I don't believe you.
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Anybody like to apologise to me? As I said the pound is in dire straits against the Euro and every day is slipping more, I may be blonde but I'm not stupid!!!
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£/Euro 06/03 1.1664
£/Euro 29/07 1.1605
Hardly in free fall :)
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Best rate locally is 1.12 three weeks ago 1.15 not freefall but nothing like as good as it was a year ago. Anyway had enough, going to bed, all these mathematics this time of night is doing my blonde head in! ;)
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Anybody like to apologise to me? As I said the pound is in dire straits against the Euro and every day is slipping more, I may be blonde but I'm not stupid!!!
Ok, I'm really sorry - not sure for what, but if it makes you happy...
£/Euro 06/03 1.1664
£/Euro 29/07 1.1605
Hardly in free fall :)
Ha ha, selective data. As the original post was all about the past twelve months, once you take last summers rates of €1.20+ it is a fair drop and hopefully its almost bottomed out.
Incidentally, today you could buy at €1.138 at M&S if you have one of their CC's or €1.134 at Thomas Cook over the counter.
JF
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Not sure about Calis , but the number of `brit` visitors were well down during May and June in Hisaronu, but plenty of turks about during late June early July .
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Anybody like to apologise to me? As I said the pound is in dire straits against the Euro and every day is slipping more, I may be blonde but I'm not stupid!!!
:) I was wrong to use last years figures for comparison echogirl & my initial reply could have been better phrased, sorry for that, it was a bit school-marmy :)
According to an article in the Fethiye Times yesterday, figures for visitors/tourists are up on last year!. That's definitely not what most people are saying or seeing..... figures eh ;)
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in the four weeks we were there in june Calis was much quieter, backed up by most people we spoke to.
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Not sure about Calis , but the number of `brit` visitors were well down during May and June in Hisaronu, but plenty of turks about during late June early July .
And you only need to ask the Turkish bar and restaurant owners which nationality of bums they want on their seats...
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well strangely, when we were over last two weeks of June we were astounded at the volume of Brits packing the restaurants every night. (not all of them admittedly) But there didn't seem to be any shortage of punters.
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Spoke to an English restaurant owner in Hissy last night, he's very happy with the season so far.
On a slightly different tack,In one off the bigger Chinese restaurants they offer the choice of paying in TL or £ their exchange rates are worse than our friend Colin! still on 2.5 to the £
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George `english` restaurants in H always do well... something I personally cant get my head around :-) but a lot of restaurants and bars are struggling trust me, and late september and most of october is going to be quiet again .
Yes keith, most of the turks just `walk around` or just drinking chi , not sure of my spelling there . But I did notice in early July a few more turks drinking more expensive drinks.. even cocktails , its the rise of the middle class turks now it seems, times are changing around us ;)
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Angela, we were there from Feb to early July ( back there again at the end of August ) and yes... last two weeks in June was busier, but believe me it was deathly quiet comparing to years gone by up to that point
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Very true Sleuth - it's surprising how many properties locally (Calis not Perth :D ) are being sold to Turkish academics and professionals. Seems Fethiye just became more desirable.
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Lots of Turkish people came in the early weeks of July because it was just before the ramadan. During the ramdan it's always quiet but you can expect loads of people end of next week, when the bayram starts.
I don't agree with the Turkish people not spending. Maybe the families with five kids squeezed into a şahin don't spend much but the young middle class couples tend to spend though.
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Yes I would agree with that entirely. To explain,my comments come directly from the bar and restaurant owners I know, who, in the main, are tired of orders for a large water and six glasses :)
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And that would be a large bottle of tap water as I explained to some one who asked why we took the labels off the bottles of water for Turkish people :D