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General Topics => The Debating Chamber => Topic started by: KKOB on January 13, 2015, 21:47:14 PM

Title: RTE Blames 'The West' for the Paris Masssacre
Post by: KKOB on January 13, 2015, 21:47:14 PM

The President of Turkey has suggested French security forces are to blame for the deadly terrorist attacks in Paris last week, since the culprits had recently served prison sentences.

Recep Tayyip Erdoğan accused the West of 'playing games with the Islamic world', warning fellow Muslims to be 'aware'.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2908358/Turkish-president-accuses-West-Charlie-Hebdo-attacks-deliberately-blaming-Muslims-conspiracy-theories-sweep-Internet-accusing-Israel-orchestrating-it.html

Title: Re: RTE Blames 'The West' for the Paris Masssacre
Post by: kevin3 on January 13, 2015, 23:43:33 PM

The day after the shooting one of his ministers said it was" staged " to show Muslims in a bad light.

He said there wasn't enough blood, their guns were pointing in the wrong direction and there wasn't enough traffic.!!

RTE is showing his "Anti West"  and" I want to lead the Muslims "tendencies more and more now.  Worrying.!

Title: Re: RTE Blames 'The West' for the Paris Masssacre
Post by: KKOB on January 13, 2015, 23:47:36 PM

I think Turkey's aspirations of joining the EU have died now that he's at the helm. Still happy to take subsidies though.

Title: Re: RTE Blames 'The West' for the Paris Masssacre
Post by: Scunner on January 13, 2015, 23:54:11 PM

I understand it. Muslims are being blamed for everything and it's not fair to blame them for everything. It's Israel that should be blamed for everything. Is that right?

Title: Re: RTE Blames 'The West' for the Paris Masssacre
Post by: KKOB on January 14, 2015, 00:33:48 AM

It makes you wonder just what Isreal WILL do about this.

Given that one of the quotes from the funeral of the 4 Jews being buried at The Mount of Olives was "Today is for the tears. Tomorrow for the response"

Title: Re: RTE Blames 'The West' for the Paris Masssacre
Post by: KKOB on January 14, 2015, 02:24:52 AM

Remember Operations "Wrath of God" and "Spring of Youth" that the Israelis instigated following the Munich Massacre in 1972.

I bet they already have their targets in the crosshairs.

Title: Re: RTE Blames 'The West' for the Paris Masssacre
Post by: kevin3 on January 14, 2015, 09:04:40 AM

    Politicians have a lot to account for,-------------------but see themselves as unaccountable.         >:(

Title: Re: RTE Blames 'The West' for the Paris Masssacre
Post by: Old Nick on January 14, 2015, 10:40:02 AM

I was shown this article last evening via a member of Facebook.  Whilst a lot of the responses were obviously emotion lead, I am loathed to say that I can empathise with a lot of their fears and worries.  My sister recently sold her property in Calis, for reasons other than political, but I must say that I am very relieved that she has as I can only see problems for the ex-pats living in Turkey in the not too distant future. :(  (for those who want to look this up on Facebook, it was in the Ex-pats group).

Title: Re: RTE Blames 'The West' for the Paris Masssacre
Post by: usedbustickets on January 14, 2015, 10:46:05 AM

If the Palestinian 'problem' was resolved then tensions will ease across the muslim  world including Turkey .. but I am afraid that will not happen as the Palestinians will never be able to give enough to satisfy what has become in the last thirty years a very nasty right wing militaristic zionist state.  Sadly all of which are component parts with vested interests in ensuring Israel will never settle the issue in any meaningful way.

Having said that Israel and the liberal West (but also include both Russia and China in this with their particular muslim problems) will never be able to give, or agree enough - short of conversion or death - to satisfy the lunatic fringe of the Sunni, and indeed the Shia wings of Islam.

Title: Re: RTE Blames 'The West' for the Paris Masssacre
Post by: kevin3 on January 14, 2015, 11:59:56 AM

Following the Turkish Prime Minister marching in Paris for press freedom, police this morning
raided Turkish printing works and ensured the removal of all front pages of Charlie Ebdo magazines.

Title: Re: RTE Blames 'The West' for the Paris Masssacre
Post by: Eric on January 14, 2015, 14:11:36 PM

Well this b*ggers up RTE's theory.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2909633/Leader-al-Qaeda-s-Yemen-group-confirms-ordered-attack-Charlie-Hebdo-offices-revenge-insulting-Mohammed.html

Title: Re: RTE Blames 'The West' for the Paris Masssacre
Post by: Colwyn on January 14, 2015, 14:42:05 PM

Quote from: kevin3 on January 14, 2015, 11:59:56 AM

Following the Turkish Prime Minister marching in Paris for press freedom, police this morning
raided Turkish printing works and ensured the removal of all front pages of Charlie Ebdo magazines.

Do you have a reference for this, Kevin?

OK, found it here.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/police-raid-press-of-turkish-daily-publishing-selection-of-charlie-hebdos-new-issue.aspx?PageID=238&NID=76916&NewsCatID=341

Title: Re: RTE Blames 'The West' for the Paris Masssacre
Post by: kevin3 on January 14, 2015, 15:40:14 PM

And he's ordered a Shoe Box Hoist

          http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/heavy-lift-chopper-to-be-assigned-to-turkeys-presidency-.        ;)

Title: Re: RTE Blames 'The West' for the Paris Masssacre
Post by: kevin3 on January 14, 2015, 18:09:18 PM

Quite rightly RTE's Government, along with other repressive regimes are being

panned for deciding what it's citizens can read or hear.

BUT, has anyone seen the cartoon published in the UK today.??    I have not.!

Is someone afraid of upsetting someone.?       ???