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Title: Windows 10
Post by: mercury on August 01, 2015, 17:31:19 PM
I downloaded the new Windows 10 on to our 2 laptops yesterday.. One was running on Windows 7... The other on Windows 8.1...    Well what can I say.. Love it... Anything is better than th4e dreaded Windows 8.... Easy to use.fast and so far no problems.  Took 2 hours to download and set up though... I didn't pre order it as I knew nothing about it.. Looked online and got it from there...
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: wickwilly on August 01, 2015, 17:41:44 PM
I downloaded it today. Took advantage of Microsoft's free download. Was a bit slow to download here in Uzumlu. Just under 3 hours. Well worth it though. Such a good system. Far better than windows 8.1.
WW
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: KKOB on August 01, 2015, 17:53:05 PM
I've got Windows 10 !

And Doors 8, cupboards 6, washbasin 2 and kitchensink 1.

I've also got OCD apparently.

 ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: mercury on August 01, 2015, 20:21:07 PM
Trust you. ;-)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: SteveJ on August 01, 2015, 22:26:08 PM
Hi Anne,
Can you remember which site you used to download it from?
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: stoop on August 02, 2015, 10:59:07 AM
I'm on the list - just waiting for the damn thing :(
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: SteveJ on August 02, 2015, 11:11:12 AM
So am I Stoop which I why I was asking Mercury for the name of the site she used.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: mercury on August 02, 2015, 12:34:09 PM
Got the website from InfoWorld... there is the link from Windows on there... typed in download Windows 10 into Google. This came up on about the fourth page in...
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: JohnF on August 02, 2015, 12:43:45 PM
Here's an easier way, it makes Windows do all the work for you:

http://venturebeat.com/2015/07/28/how-to-force-windows-to-start-downloading-the-windows-10-update-files/

Other than a few privacy issues (easily resolved) and a sh1te built in browser (Edge), its a good upgrade if you're on Windows 8 or 8.1.

JF
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Steve (redding43) on August 02, 2015, 12:50:29 PM
You don't have to Wait? https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: JohnF on August 02, 2015, 12:59:53 PM
You don't have to Wait?

Only works (I think) if you have a product key - whereas doing it the "update" method is click and forget, so to speak.

JF
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: mercury on August 02, 2015, 13:09:53 PM
I am not very technical but I had no problems with the page I took Windows from... no key no nothing.... One laptop was running Windows 7.  The other was Windows 8... both took two hours to download.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: JohnF on August 02, 2015, 13:13:22 PM
Want a job then?

JF
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: SteveJ on August 02, 2015, 13:45:28 PM
I followed the instructions in the link provided by JF and I'm now in the process of downloading Windows 10. The only thing to note is that the instructions tell you to enter a command whilst the windows update process is running. In actual fact you have to wait until the updates are finished, reload the PC and then type in the command. If you do it that way your PC will start the Windows 10 download automatically (well at least it did on my laptop).

So far so good.  ;D
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: mercury on August 02, 2015, 16:44:53 PM
Let us know what you think about it.. I am liking it so far....
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: SteveJ on August 02, 2015, 16:52:25 PM
My first attempt failed but having had a thunk and a cup of tea I realised what had caused the problem. The notes in JF's link are (to quote Eric Morcambe) "all the right notes not nessesarily in the right order". It also misses out a couple of vital reloads along the way. I've now successfully upgraded from W8 to W10 and here's how I did it.....

1. First upgrade from W8 to W8.1 and reload
2. Install all the mandatory and optional upgrades on top of W8.1 and reload.
3. You should now have a window icon in your SysTray (bottom right corner) which says
    "Get Windows 10". If you have then proceed to step 4, if not seek advice from t'internet but don't go on without it.
4. Delete all files contained in the folder c:\windows\software distribution\download - there were over 17,000 in my case.
5. Got to search (top left hand corner) and enter CMD. Right click in the Command Prompt box which has just appeared. Scroll down and select the "Run as Administrator" option.
6. At the Command Prompt which appears enter "wuauclt.exe/upgradenow" (without the quotation marks)
7. Go to Settings\Control Panel\System and Security\Windows Update. You should now see Windows 10 downloading.

After it downloads and installs you will be prompted to "Continue" at the Configuration stage, this is the only interaction you will need to do. End to end it took me about 3.5 hours.

Best of Luck   ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: SteveJ on August 02, 2015, 16:58:24 PM
Hi Mercury  - I need to play with it for a while before deciding whether to keep it or not. (cue KKOB for a smart response   ;))

I'll get back to you.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: JohnF on August 02, 2015, 17:05:54 PM
Well done Steve  :)

Let us know what you think about it.. I am liking it so far....

It is a big step forward for Micro$oft, I ran it for a couple of weeks last month and *may* upgrade our windows machines.  Haven't decided yet...

The biggest issue I have with W10 is the assorted privacy issues many folks have highlighted. 

This article takes you through the steps you need to go through to stop sending all your personal data to Micro$oft:

Windows 10 Is Spying On You: Here’s How To Stop It (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/07/30/windows-10-privacy-settings/)

This article is also worth reading:

Windows 10 is spying on almost everything you do – here’s how to opt out (http://bgr.com/2015/07/31/windows-10-upgrade-spying-how-to-opt-out/)

JF
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: SteveJ on August 02, 2015, 17:24:30 PM
Ok first problem - no sound. There is a fix on Utube but it doesn't work for me.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: SteveJ on August 02, 2015, 17:32:39 PM
S'ok - it's just the crappy default MS apps for music and video that don't produce any sound. If I use my preferred apps of AVS for music and VLC for video then all is ok. Phew!
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: echogirl1 on August 03, 2015, 11:02:15 AM
My son installed Windows 10 for me last week, it took about an hour to install but I love it, I never got on with Windows 8, I also love the talking bit, though you do feel a bit stupid talking to the lap top!!
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: JohnF on August 03, 2015, 11:28:37 AM
Its when you walk away, feeling that you've had a meaningful and fulfilling conversation with it, you really should start to worry.

JF
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: steveb1 on August 03, 2015, 12:55:28 PM
The money change man in Fethiye says he got windows 10.1
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: echogirl1 on August 03, 2015, 14:47:40 PM
My deep and meaningful conversations with my lap top are probably better value for money than a therapist!!
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: loz on August 03, 2015, 14:55:52 PM
I like windows 10, it is missing the "Run" button at the start button, I did find it, did what I needed but since I have forgot where it is again, memory slip. 


As for talking to the computer, well, it must be better than Highlander talking to a coffee machine   ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Rimms on August 03, 2015, 15:05:30 PM
Downloaded windows 10, it took the best part of four hours but already it seems much easier to navigate than the 8.1 that was pre installed on the laptop. Also set up the VPN, Virus protection and now I'm just in the process of installing various utilities that come with the computer, with a bit of luck, Chris can watch Corrie later.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: davybill on August 03, 2015, 15:58:27 PM
When you download windows 10 ,do you lose much  data I.e photos and such?
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: SteveJ on August 03, 2015, 16:23:19 PM
Only the OS gets updated - all your files and software will be exactly where they were.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: SteveJ on August 03, 2015, 16:29:41 PM
Loz -  Like you, I struggled to find "run" but if you type "run" into the "search the web and windows" box then it appears at the top of the presented list.  You can do this for anything that is difficult to find

So far, I'm liking W10   :)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: JohnF on August 03, 2015, 16:52:50 PM
So far, I'm liking W10    :)

Don't forget to turn off all the "sharing" features relating to your network connection...

JF
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Rimms on August 03, 2015, 18:47:56 PM
Why and How please John?
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: bewva on September 06, 2015, 10:44:44 AM
So a month or so on, do W10 users feel its good/better than W7 or should I stick with 7?
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Colwyn on September 06, 2015, 10:52:18 AM
Hilary wants to load Windows 10 but has read that it disrupts Kaspersky. Does anyone know about this?
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: jackstee on September 06, 2015, 10:55:17 AM
Had to delete and reinstall Kaspersky in the two computers I installed 10 on
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: KKOB on September 06, 2015, 11:04:03 AM
I've been running 10 for a while and it seems pretty good. Just took a bit of getting used to some minor changes.

As an aside I've also installed Ghostery recently which stops a lot of the annoying 'pop-ups' and adverts.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: JohnF on September 06, 2015, 11:20:19 AM
Hilary wants to load Windows 10 but has read that it disrupts Kaspersky. Does anyone know about this?

Have a look here:

https://blog.kaspersky.com/windows-10-compatibility/9414/

JF
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Colwyn on September 07, 2015, 09:00:13 AM
Thanks Jack and John, I have updated to Kaspersky 2016 which they say is set up for W 10.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Daffodil on September 12, 2015, 10:55:18 AM
I had a message to install Windows 10 last night and it seemed to be going well but it is now stuck on setting up personalised settings for Web platform customizations. It has been on a blank screen with a little note in the corner. Is it just slow?
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: JohnF on September 12, 2015, 11:12:20 AM
Try rebooting it.

JF
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Aaitken11 on September 12, 2015, 11:38:49 AM
Have had it a month now, brilliant, runs a lot quicker as well.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: AOK on September 12, 2015, 12:26:05 PM
I upgraded from Win 7 to 10 about a month ago.Takes a bit of getting used to but seems quicker and i like some of the options available.Will keep Win 10.It is defo a vast improvement on Win 8.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Daffodil on September 12, 2015, 16:14:08 PM
I have Windows 10 now and am just trying it out. The adverts and pop ups I receive are annoying, I have never heard of 'Ghostery' how does it work KKOB? I wondered if they slow my screen down. Sometimes I  can hear an advert but not see anything.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: nichola on September 12, 2015, 16:27:38 PM
Why are you getting ads and pop ups, isn't there a way to stop them?
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: KKOB on September 12, 2015, 16:30:33 PM
Google "ghostery". It's all explained on their website.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Daffodil on September 12, 2015, 19:43:12 PM
I don't know why I get adverts keep coming up. It is annoying and I am no expert about these things.  Il will have a look at Ghostery and see if I can understand it.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: loz on January 25, 2016, 13:20:32 PM
WIndows 10 upgrade.  I upgraded when it was rolled out and posted here that I quite liked it, however, time has rolled on and so many glitches have come to the fore.
I am starting to find many programs that once worked now do not function properly. 


Last week a friend purchased from Currys a Tower Desk PC, they sold it to her as a windows 10 PC.  She purchased Office 16, and the sametime purchased Macafee Antiv Virus.   


She contacted me as she was having problems with the office and the Macafee.  We went through and installed, but the office would not recognise any of her previous files on Word. we tried for a few days to get it sorted, then I read online that many others were having the same problem.  I went through her systems and found that Currys had sold her a Windows 7 PC and had upgraded the system and sold it as a Windows 10, where does she now stand?


I have a hookey Office Pro Suite,  it has always worked fine, I sent her the files to install on her PC and it works, she can open all files.  she is going to try to get a refund on her office paid for from Currys. can't see it happening.


Have they rolled out Windows 10 far to early?  I am seriously considering rolling my Laptop back to factory settings and Windows 8.     
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: JohnF on January 25, 2016, 13:55:11 PM
Have they rolled out Windows 10 far to early? 

When have Microsoft ever released an OS that wasnt full of bugs!

Seriously though, I've upgraded all our machines (from 7 & 8 ) to 10 and have had very few issues.  It's also sitting happily alongside my version of Linux on desktop and laptop.

If something isn't running properly, right click the desktop icon (or program file in explorer) and select Properties.  Go to the Compatibility tab and use either the Troubleshooter or elect to run that application in Compatibility Mode (choose the OS from dropdown list).  That'll fix ninety odd percent of problems with older applications.  The rest, try updating to latest version, even the hooky ones...

JF
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: nichola on January 26, 2016, 06:09:17 AM
Windows 10 comes with anti virus software. Windows Defender I think it's called. There's no need to buy it at extra cost but it does need to be enabled.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: loz on January 26, 2016, 23:39:03 PM
it is screwed! it has kicked out Kaspersky, and so many other programs, even the compatibility tab is not doing the job, so I am in the throes of transferring all my files to another computer then going back to factory settings and start again.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: jackstee on January 27, 2016, 08:51:06 AM
Kaspersky does work but it will upgrade to windows 10 after a couple of days/
I have it on all three laptops and basically no big probs
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: loz on January 27, 2016, 20:03:21 PM
Kaspersky has emailed me a link to download they program security for windows 10.  I am still un-installing the computer back to factory an windows 8.  I have too many programs that are not compatible with 10,  I will have windows 10 when they start rolling out genuine computer laptops with Windows 10 and have sorted out the Gremlins. 


Nichola, yes it has Defender, but it is not doing any good.  in a few words, the free upgrade has screwed my laptop.  I may put it on the other laptop, there are not special programs on there for it to screw with.


Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: alixandria on January 27, 2016, 20:53:36 PM
 JohnF. We have now turned off a lot unwanted stuff thanks to those useful links you posted.Thank you.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Stuart T on January 27, 2016, 21:22:37 PM
Good advice John F.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: JohnF on January 27, 2016, 21:26:18 PM
I have too many programs that are not compatible with 10

Dinosaur.

JF
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: loz on January 28, 2016, 20:07:46 PM
The Dinosaur program worked fine it was all the others. 
PhotoShop
Gimp
Office (all programs)
Kaspersky
DVDstyler
Utorrent
Cyberlink Suite (came with the new laptop just over a year ago)
Webstudios
Skype
Movavi programs


That is to name a few, it was getting ridiculous, they all kept crashing,  I have reset to Factory settings and installed all programs, they appear to be working fine.  I did try your suggestions, one or 2 worked, it just got to be a pain restarting this contraption with the wind up key. 


I have been on the Microsoft forums, it appears there are some gremlins in the Windows 10,  I will try it again on my other computer in the future. 


Thanks for the help though.



Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: JohnF on January 28, 2016, 23:40:29 PM
PhotoShop
Gimp
Office (all programs)
Utorrent
Cyberlink Suite (came with the new laptop just over a year ago)
Skype

I got those, all worked fine after update.  Suggests summat to do with your installs as opposed to Win 10 itself.

Email me if you need a helpy handy.

JF
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: nichola on January 29, 2016, 07:39:46 AM
Nichola, yes it has Defender, but it is not doing any good.  in a few words, the free upgrade has screwed my laptop.  I may put it on the other laptop, there are not special programs on there for it to screw with.


I only mentioned it because you said your friend bought it and it might save other people the expense  of buying something additional they don't need   :)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: loz on January 29, 2016, 11:24:14 AM
Nichola thank you, my friend purchased a new tower system from Currys, she should not be having the problems she is having, she purchased at great expense Security program and Office,  both of which had problems, I sent her my "hookey" office and she installed her old security and both worked.   


John, thank you and I might take you up on your offer.   I like using Gimp for quick edits, I tried your advice but it would not make changes to the problems. 


I upgraded windows 8 to 10 in June last year, do you think that by any chance that the early roll out and upgrade could have been the problem?  considering it is only this last week that Kaspersky has rolled out a download for Windows 10.