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General Topics => The Debating Chamber => Topic started by: Colwyn on July 12, 2016, 16:14:04 PM

Title: -ize or -ise ?
Post by: Colwyn on July 12, 2016, 16:14:04 PM
Which to use in verbs such as organize/organise? I just heard someone who interviews people for jobs saying his pet hate is people who use US spell checkers and, because of this, spell words as "-ize" and "- ization". What a pity if this man decides not to employ someone because of his mistaken understanding of UK usage of the English language. But I suppose he doesn't realize that his prejudice is based on an erroneous understanding. Pillock.
Title: Re: -ize or -ise ?
Post by: Lotty on July 12, 2016, 16:32:52 PM
My youngest daughter has written a few 'Chick-lit' books and the US on-line readers jump in to criticise some spellings! It infuriates her and the U.K. readers too. A bit of virtual sparring has often occurred!
Title: Re: -ize or -ise ?
Post by: Colwyn on July 12, 2016, 16:36:14 PM
That will be "criticize" then, Lotty in traditional UK use. Or have you gone all Frenchified on us?
Title: Re: -ize or -ise ?
Post by: KKOB on July 12, 2016, 18:21:36 PM
I'm in favor of critizise.  ;)
Title: Re: -ize or -ise ?
Post by: Colwyn on July 12, 2016, 18:24:22 PM
Bloody trouble maker.
Title: Re: -ize or -ise ?
Post by: KKOB on July 12, 2016, 18:41:02 PM
Innit tho'.
Title: Re: -ize or -ise ?
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on July 12, 2016, 19:27:42 PM
I also not that people write program now and not programme.
Title: Re: -ize or -ise ?
Post by: KKOB on July 12, 2016, 19:35:31 PM
And not, instead of note.  ;)
Title: Re: -ize or -ise ?
Post by: Colwyn on July 13, 2016, 09:10:00 AM
US on-line readers jump in to criticise some spellings!
Just to clarify this: in UK English both criticize and criticise are accepted as correct. The mistake many people make is to suppose that since the -ize form is standardly used in the US the form is somehow an Americanism. It isn't: it is traditional UK English usage which the Americans have maintained whilst some British people have adopted the French form of -ise. The Oxford English Dictionary will have no truck with this new-fangled Frenchified nonsense:

-ize ... "is in its origin Greek and Latin and, as the pronunciation is also with a z, there is no reason why in English the special French spelling should be followed, in opposition to that which is at once etymological and phonetic. In this Dictionary the termination is uniformly written –ize."
 
Title: Re: -ize or -ise ?
Post by: Lotty on July 13, 2016, 12:28:43 PM
You're a very wize man Colwyn!   ;)
Title: Re: -ize or -ise ?
Post by: Colwyn on July 13, 2016, 12:53:11 PM
Oh yeah, a regular wisard.