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Calis Beach Forum => Calis Beach Questions and Information => Topic started by: MarKar on May 10, 2022, 12:57:41 PM

Title: Site/complex fees
Post by: MarKar on May 10, 2022, 12:57:41 PM
I'm interested to hear about other owners experience with site fees at present and if they are rising and by how much, if thats not too personal.
Due to this reason in rising cost our complex management have took upon themselves to decide not to open the swimming pool untill ( maybe 1st wk june!!) rules state 15th May and has been  that way for over 18yrs to my knowledge. without giving any prior notice I have only found  out by chance.
I am absolutely fuming as we and other UK resident/ neighbours are booked to come out for the whitsun school holidays. I have been expecting fees to rise and dont have a problem with it to provide the services we brought the property for.
We are in credit of our fees along with many owners while there are other residents owe hundreds in TL.
For the majority of owners this is classed as a summer house/ second home with very few residents living there permanently.

Is it unreasonable to expect our facility to be open?
Title: Re: Site/complex fees
Post by: spo6666 on May 10, 2022, 14:20:08 PM
Hi MarKar
I totally agree with you, we are experiencing the same thing  >:(

I think we may be on about the same site. I will send you a PM
Title: Re: Site/complex fees
Post by: Karennina on May 10, 2022, 15:56:56 PM
I can't be on same site as you guys as our pool is open...pool chemical price has increased hugely so what we did is paid our normal fees & an extra worked out about £45 per house for the increase of pool chemicals which we were happy to pay as our site fees are very good anyway...good luck in getting sorted out it's never easy being on a shared site!
Title: Re: Site/complex fees
Post by: MarKar on May 10, 2022, 16:23:35 PM
Spo666, yes please do get intouch.
As far as we can make out owners haven't even been  consulted about the decision.
Title: Re: Site/complex fees
Post by: MarKar on May 10, 2022, 16:28:30 PM
Karennina, that sounds fair to me and we had a similar thing a few years back when a new water tank was urgently needed and everyone split the cost, we weren't consulted then just  told it was happening and how much we owed.
Title: Re: Site/complex fees
Post by: MarKar on May 10, 2022, 17:35:26 PM
Hi MarKar
I totally agree with you, we are experiencing the same thing  >:(

I think we may be on about the same

site. I will send you a PM
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Yes i have pm you back, but not sure if its sent properly, let me know
Title: Re: Site/complex fees
Post by: Steve A on May 11, 2022, 10:35:04 AM
1.Site fees have risen for both chemicals and maintenance in line with everything else,also if you have outside electric that’s the biggest rise.
2,As far as when the pool opens that is for the owners to determine ,so if I was you I’d just get them told
Title: Re: Site/complex fees
Post by: trainer on May 12, 2022, 12:41:13 PM
Hi I am the manager on my site and the increases for us are
90% Chlorine chemicals this time last year 400tl this year 2250tl
 Electric 650tl a month on average through the summer season last year this may 1000tl and I am expecting that to go up
Minimum wage last year 3500 a month this year 4500tl
Title: Re: Site/complex fees
Post by: Karennina on May 13, 2022, 02:53:50 AM
Gosh that is a huge increase in the pool chemicals price, I knew it had gone up a lot but didn't know any figures thank you for posting Trainer
Title: Re: Site/complex fees
Post by: trainer on May 13, 2022, 07:20:16 AM
Regarding the chemical’s, the chemicals we use are of a high quality and we are now in the process of finding a cheaper make/suppler but cheaper is not always best   :)
Title: Re: Site/complex fees
Post by: MarKar on May 16, 2022, 00:29:28 AM
Hi Trainer
Thank you for including the costs, can I ask has this impacted your site maintenance in any way.
Eg opening pool later, cutting down on staff, turning off lights ect.
Just trying to evaluate the situation from everones point of view.
Thank you
Title: Re: Site/complex fees
Post by: trainer on May 16, 2022, 15:44:11 PM
We actually opened 2 weeks early but mainly because we had the pool re-grouted and did not want to leave it empty, we use a maintenance company so we have no worries regarding manpower all our lights around the site are on dusk till dawn sensors the cost for them is around 50tl a month on average the pool lights are on a timer comes on at 8pm and goes of at 10pm so the cost again isn’t a lot the cost comes from pool pumps and the chemicals our pool is quite big for the size of complex but only has one pump some bigger pools needs two pumps which doubles the cost of both electric and chemicals also you have to take into account how many people use it the more people the more chemicals and electric we have also this year had I think three dust clouds that have lasted more than a few days each and this means more cleaning
If you have a big pool and historically only get a few owners at the beginning of the season I can see the logic in opening later
Title: Re: Site/complex fees
Post by: btcdiana on May 16, 2022, 18:28:39 PM
We actually opened 2 weeks early but mainly because we had the pool re-grouted and did not want to leave it empty, we use a maintenance company so we have no worries regarding manpower all our lights around the site are on dusk till dawn sensors the cost for them is around 50tl a month on average the pool lights are on a timer comes on at 8pm and goes of at 10pm so the cost again isn’t a lot the cost comes from pool pumps and the chemicals our pool is quite big for the size of complex but only has one pump some bigger pools needs two pumps which doubles the cost of both electric and chemicals also you have to take into account how many people use it the more people the more chemicals and electric we have also this year had I think three dust clouds that have lasted more than a few days each and this means more cleaning
If you have a big pool and historically only get a few owners at the beginning of the season I can see the logic in opening later
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Title: Re: Site/complex fees
Post by: MarKar on May 18, 2022, 09:05:49 AM
Thank you trainer
We have 2 pools on our complex one of which is huge and only opens in july and Aug so there is room to save money there if they chose not to open that one.
In our site rules the smaller pool is open for longer, from a set date which should actually be open now.
Luckily it wasn't effected by the dust clouds as it wasn't open.
I was wandering if anyone would know if the pump on pools have to be continually running or could the be timed to cut in and out. I'm not familiar with the pool system so maybe not 😏.
Homeowners and Guests vistit at various times throughout the season, so it would be very discriminate in my opinion to choose only the busy times to have all the facilities open, some choose to come at quieter times exactly for that reason and they pay their fees just like everyone else.
Its very frustrating as we all appreciate rising cost are effecting everyone, but then there are also owners who prolifically behind with monthly fees and then having lots of home improvements done but complain if the site fees rise.
Hopefully we will be able to sort things out next week.
Title: Re: Site/complex fees
Post by: Steve A on May 18, 2022, 09:45:24 AM
It’s difficult collecting site fees especially from Turkish owners as the priceless are affecting them greatly.However they are still responsible so those who don’t pay can have action taken against them.
Pool pumps can be put on a timer ,as we have had in the past,this limits the times it can be used eg 8-8 maybe.
However if people are going on holiday they want to be able to use the facilities so we’ve just had to bite the bullet and pay for the rises in cost.In the grand scheme of things it’s still cheap ,on a site of 15 Apt’s.we pay less than £200
Title: Re: Site/complex fees
Post by: MarKar on May 19, 2022, 15:05:37 PM
Hi Steve
I agree, if you take on something like a holiday home you have to appreciate there are costs involved, sometimes unexpected too, and can vary. I personally don't have a problem paying more as to provide the service that was agreed.
Hopefully we'll be able to sort things out next week.
Title: Re: Site/complex fees
Post by: spo6666 on May 20, 2022, 08:59:14 AM
I am in total agreement with Mark (as we are on the same site) No problem with fees reflecting the cost and increasing inline with costs, but I do have a problem with a site manager that thinks the way to deal with increasing costs is to keep the pools shut longer, not on, we come for a holiday and expect at least 1 of our pools to be open, otherwise we are paying substantial site fees for a bit of grass cutting etc  >:(
Title: Re: Site/complex fees
Post by: Steve A on May 20, 2022, 10:00:02 AM
Surely you can speak to the site manager and tell him exactly what you want and what he gets paid for otherwise adios
Title: Re: Site/complex fees
Post by: spo6666 on May 20, 2022, 10:22:38 AM
Hopefully when Mark has a chat with him, we will get an update  :)