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« Reply #180 on: March 26, 2010, 20:22:46 PM »
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Originally posted by Scunner

250m2 x 4m deep for two dolphins to spend their entire summer in. That means a pool oops sorry dolphinarium possibly just 25 metres long by 10 metres wide.

Repulsive, I hope it fails and swiftly.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=-2010-03-11



E.A.A.M. Standards for Establishments Housing Bottlenose Dolphins

 Minimum Pool Dimensions

Total available pool space (including hospital or isolation areas) should be calculated

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http://www.marineanimalwelfare.com/EAAM.htm?option=com_content&task=viewid=19itemid=35#1e

to observe the following minima for up to five (5) animals:

1.    Water surface area: 275 m² + 75 m² per additional animal.

2.    An area of at least the minimum surface area should have a minimum depth of 3.5 m.

3.    Total water volume: 1000 m³ + 200 m³ per additional animal.

4.    Any establishment having pools which fulfill the minimum requirements of two of the above criteria, and where the third criterion is no more than 10% lower than the recommended minimum, should be regarded as acceptable.




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« Reply #181 on: March 26, 2010, 21:35:19 PM »
This pool is only 250m2 so it should fail on that.  

How do you work out water volume ??

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« Reply #182 on: March 26, 2010, 21:39:55 PM »
Presumably its length x width x depth (250m2 x 4.00 = 1,000)

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« Reply #183 on: March 26, 2010, 21:45:50 PM »
Thanks H not up on water volume calculations.

Unfortunately they have met the "acceptable" standard by making it deeper.

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« Reply #184 on: March 26, 2010, 21:49:35 PM »
I know that's the calculation for volume - not 100% certain that there is not a conversion factor for water.

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« Reply #185 on: March 26, 2010, 22:56:05 PM »
I found a conversion chart just before you answered and it is the same answer.

http://www.poolandspachemicals.co.uk/volcalc.htm
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« Reply #186 on: March 27, 2010, 08:05:52 AM »
http://www.marineanimalwelfare.com/EAAM.htm?option=com_content&task=viewid=19itemid=35#1e

They go to say...

Construction of Buildings, Installations and Fittings (edited)

Open-air installations: Dolphins cannot be kept in open-ir installations if air and water temperature fluctuations could result in health or hygiene problems for the animals.

Noise

Cetaceans shall be protected from harassment by excessive noise, including noise from irregular impulses. The noise level shall be kept as low as possible for the frequency range between 0 and 60 kHz (normal maximum ambient sound pressure level 100 dB re 1 µPa). Sounds of mechanical origin are probably the most stressful for the animals, because of their regular repetitive nature. Those of a random nature, except where based on metallic sounds, are probably not so significant. Any doubts as to the effects of any sound should be referred to an expert with experience of underwater acoustic measurement (NOT of airborne acoustics) in conjunction with the veterinary surgeon with experience and/or training in this field.

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« Reply #187 on: March 29, 2010, 22:06:37 PM »
sorry If this is duplicated, but I cannot see my previous message here.
I have measure the pool today and it is even shorter than before as indicated by the announced dimensions. This is because there are two wooden walkways being made across both ends of the widths of the pool
Therefore the actual swim area for the dolphins now measure JUST 12 Metres by 17 Metres!!
On a back copy of Fethiye Times Ibrahim Dilek PA to the owner Mr Alesandr Kuznetsov, is quoted as saying they will conform to European standards
I have news for him.. European standards minimum is 275 square metres per ONE dolphin, the Hisaronu pool falls well short considering there will be TWO dolphins sharing far less

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« Reply #188 on: March 30, 2010, 15:55:18 PM »
Keith, Methinks you were absolutely spot on about 'Lizsouth',she seems to have gone very quiet all of a sudden!! Does anyone know why the proposed meeting at 'Kismet' was cancelled? Surely the lads were not 'leaned upon'?

It would be absolutely disastrous for the welfare of the dolphins, if anyone, Turkish or whatever nationality, were to pay money for the 'curiosity value' of seeing just how deplorable the conditions are first hand, so to speak, if this nightmare project is allowed to reach completion.

'The pen is mightier than the sword.'
Gordy.[:(!][:(!]

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« Reply #189 on: March 30, 2010, 15:57:37 PM »
Very true Gordy. I fear Hisaronu would suffer as much as the dolphins too.




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