Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Turkey Related Subjects => Turkey Discussion Forum (Not Calis specifically) => Topic started by: Colwyn on August 13, 2017, 12:19:51 PM
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This thought was prompted by something I wrote on another thread.
I don't recall ever having seen duck on the menu of a Turkish restaurant. Why is that? There are plenty of live ducks around and I don't think there is a halal ruling against it (or is there?). Is it just me and others have seen lots of duck dishes?
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I suppose it's because after eating it you get a large Bill. ;)
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Doh! I waddled straight into that one!
The sources I looked up say duck is halal (i.e. permitted in Islam) so its absence from Turkish restaurants is still a puzzle. [I am discounting remarks that they "look too cute to eat" given the huge number of darling little lambs that are devoured].
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I can only assume, that Duck is not really a traditional delicacy in Turkish cuisine. Duck (as I am sure you know Colwyn) can be tricky to cook, and therefore not many of their chefs are willing to try. That's the only suggestion I can make.
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Oh I don't know. Duck, chips, rice and salad sounds ok to me. Or maybe not! ;) ;D
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Mallards !
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The pork man who had the converted dolmus used to sell whole ducks
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I can only assume, that Duck is not really a traditional delicacy in Turkish cuisine.
Well that's true but given the Turkish genius for assimilating items from other cultures - their religion and a great deal of their language has been acquired from others - we might expect this to be reflected in the appearance of duck in the diet. Much of the traditional "Turkish" menu has been assembled from the recipes of the vast territories of the Ottoman Empire stretching from the Balkans, through the Near East, across North Africa to modern day Algeria*. So where's the duck?
* In return, when the expansion of the Ottoman Empire was finally halted, it (inadvertently) gifted two vital ingredients to the breakfast of many Europeans (allegedly).
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The present Mrs H affirms that there is a lot of wastage when cooking duck.
She however is not suggesting this as a reason why it is not on the menus.
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Once you've solved this problem I'll be moving on to the advanced level: why don't they eat turkey in Turkey?
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Once you've solved this problem I'll be moving on to the advanced level: why don't they eat turkey in Turkey?
But they do !
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Yes, I have seen them kept in Turkey. I guess they are mostly for special occasions (principally New Year?) like the UK where most people only see them at Christmas. Is that the case, do you know?
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Most of the 'ham' sold in supermarkets is Hindi Jambon i.e. made from turkey meat.
Yes, they're usually kept for special occasions, mostly by villagers.
In fact we had 31 on our plot in Kaya a few years ago. We were going to raise them and sell them for Christmas. Unfortunately we lost 11 in one night to a polecat attack. Although they were prolific egg layers we couldn't find a market for them so it wouldn't have been financially viable to continue breeding them.
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It is clearly a confusing creature: in Britain we call it "Turkey"; in Turkey they call it "India"; in India they call it "Peru".
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It's native to the Americas so it's strange that the Turks should think they came from India. Unless of course they got confused between Indians and Native Americans. :)
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I think the confusion comes from Columbus who thought he had discovered the western route to India, which then became the Western Indies, then the West Indies. For a while "The Americas" were known as "The Indies".
It was, of course, a Bristolian, (and not that Columbus fellow), who was the first European explorer since Leif Erikson to cross the Atlantic and land in North America - and sort out the muddle.
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There is plenty of fresh Turkey on sale at Christmas and New Year in the supermarkets, large ones
also small frozen turkeys through out the year, Hinde fume is the turkey ham they sell.
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Well we seem to have the turkey thing sorted. What about the absent duck?
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There is Duck is on the menu at Hangout in Ölüdeniz Colwyn 8)
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Ah, tracked 'em down. Well done Nichola. Odd they are so rare though, don't you think?
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the chinese restaurants all do the 'crispy aromatic duck', but some, like Dragonara in Hisaronu, do Duck main courses
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They have frozen duck in the PORK shop on BMB in Calis
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I'm pretty certain that the 'chicken man' at the markets will get duck to order.
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Didn't the otters eat all the ducks. Or something.
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Not in restaurants they didn't.
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Perhaps they were in that otter restaurant. ;)
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The one that does otter man cuisine?
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maybe they were out for a Duck!
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Ah, tracked 'em down. Well done Nichola. Odd they are so rare though, don't you think?
They are rarish on menus (apart from at Chinese restaurants) but there are plenty of ducks on the rivers around and about.
There was also a woman that set up a duck farm a good few years ago in Goçek and made all sorts of pate and other delicious foodstuffs that she sold at the fairs and car boots, and to order. Not seen her in recent years though.
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Perhaps not a lot of people like duck!
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If you don't like duck you're rather stuck
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As an insight into Turkish cuisine and culture I can't say this thread has been a brilliant success.
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I rather think that duck maybe gets a duck. ;)
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It's canard, ain't it Rodders ! ;)
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In which case this thread is definitely Cannards Grave [one there for Somerset folk] .
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It's canard, ain't it Rodders ! ;)
You can say that again
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You could pin the tail on the mal hard and shovel it all via morse to the cove e. Then the golden eye would be able to teal it and eider decide if it is the shell or the tufted. ;) :D
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It's canard, ain't it Rodders ! ;)
You can say that again
OK. It's canard, ain't it Rodders ! ;)