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Offline Ally B

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the price of wine
« on: June 30, 2016, 12:12:31 PM »
It bugs me the mark up restaurants put on wine.The wine we like to drink can be had in supermarkets for 28/30 lira a bottle.Going to restaurants this year we were charged in different places 50/60/70/100 lira the cheapest being Obens the dearest Grapefruit. Taking the cheapest one at fifty the profit is 20 lira £5 the dearest 70lira £17. It is way over the top to charge these prices when all they do is provide an ice bucket (not all the time) and pour your first glass.We usually end up pouring the rest ourselves. Most times the wine costs more than the food. Normally we have a bottle with our meal and  if the atmosphere is right another bottle whilst sitting talking before we head home. Unfortunately because of the price it has only been one bottle per meal. Looking around at meal times there are very few people drinking wine compared with last year. I know all about the cost of the wine and taxes but this is just greed on behalf of the restaurants, after all it is not hard to open a bottle and put it in a bucket.     

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Re: the price of wine
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2016, 12:31:52 PM »
Same in the UK. In a lot of places there is between a 50 to 100% mark up on shop/supermarket prices....:(

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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2016, 12:32:12 PM »
It is way over the top to charge these prices when all they do is provide an ice bucket (not all the time) and pour your first glass.


If you think that a 50% mark up on wine is excessive then all I can assume is that you never buy a bottle in a UK restaurant.

This response from Tripadvisor (obviously the rudeness bit doesn't apply), when a customer felt ripped off by the prices, came to mind:


“I’m sorry that you feel that you were “ripped off” and I’ll try to explain why you weren’t.

“You entered the cafe and the waiter showed you to your seat, gave you a menu, waited for a time and then took your order. He entered it into the till, collected a cup, saucer and spoon and took them into the kitchen. There, he selected a knife, chopping board, got a lemon from the fridge, cut off a slice and put it in the cup. Then, he returned to the dining room, drew off the necessary hot water and carried the cup to your table. When you were leaving, he printed off your bill, took it to you, processed your credit card payment and cashed off the till. After you left, he cleared away your cup, saucer and spoon, took them into the kitchen, washed and dried them, along with the chopping board and knife and put away the lemon. Then, returning to the dining room he restacked the cup, saucer and spoon, wiped down your table and replaced the menu, awaiting the next customer.

“That’s at least 2-3 minutes work for the waiter.

“The cost of overheads for the business, i.e rent, business rates, electricity costs, bank charges, etc works out at £27.50 per hour of trading. I pay my colleagues a decent living wage and after taking into account holiday pay, national insurance and non-productive time prior to opening and after closing, the waiter who served you costs me £12.50 per hour. Therefore, together the cost is £40 per hour or 67p per minute, meaning that the cost of providing you with 2-3 minutes of service was £1.34 - £2.00. Then the government add on VAT at 20% which takes the cost of that cup of fruit infusion to between £1.60 and £2.40 irrespective of whether you had a teabag costing one and a half pence or a slice of lemon costing five pence.

“I have to pay my suppliers otherwise the facilities won’t be available to other people who use them in the future. I accept that it makes the price of a cuppa in a city centre cafe look expensive compared to the one you make at home but unfortunately that’s the cruel reality of life. It’s actually the facilities that cost the money, far more so than the ingredients.

Perhaps, the rudeness that you perceived in me was triggered by the disrespect that I perceived in you by your presumption that you could use our facilities and be waited on for free.”


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Re: the price of wine
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2016, 13:47:40 PM »
The ingredients of your meal will have had a mark-up on them also.

As philrose says, it's the same in the UK - probably worse.

What I did notice was the difference in mark up between different establishments.


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« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2016, 13:55:58 PM »
Get your point John F but all that work and expense needs to be done whether I have wine or just a meal In the Cadde our food bill came to 40lira the bill with wine was 110lira.There was a hell of a lot more work went into the meal than serving the wine.

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« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2016, 14:00:01 PM »
6 very large white wine and two main courses

96 TL

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« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2016, 17:17:45 PM »
As a real example from the UK, a bottle of wine that may cost £6-£7 in a supermarket would be charged at £15-£18 in a restaurant.

Same with bottled beer in pubs!

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« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2016, 17:56:40 PM »
I find it difficult to see how it is possible to make a profit from running a restaurant without at least doubling the cost of purchase of the ingredients. If you get cheap wine then either you are getting expensive food (or something else) or the place is heading for bankruptcy. It makes me smile when people say how cheap the Efes is in certain places in Calis but the price of a sis or guvec makes me wince.

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Re: the price of wine
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2016, 18:03:30 PM »
Get your point John F but all that work and expense needs to be done whether I have wine or just a meal In the Cadde our food bill came to 40lira the bill with wine was 110lira.There was a hell of a lot more work went into the meal than serving the wine.

Not just that but this 70 lira wine (£18.36 today) - had the exchange rate not weakened would have been £29.79 at the not so long ago rate of 2.35/£. The exchange rate hasn't weakened to make things cheaper for us, it's just one of the results of it. Lucky it has or Turkey would be hugely expensive as a holiday destination these days.

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Re: the price of wine
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2016, 23:25:50 PM »
If you think it's expensive, why pay for it??

A couple of glasses of water and the meal is over. I have often thought how we are almost programmed to buy booze with food, do we need it? I think not. Before and after a drink or two (or three) is fine, but why spoil it with eating at the same time?




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