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« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2010, 00:04:48 AM »
Very true - on that fine note - bed time ;-)



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« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2010, 10:55:23 AM »
I enjoyed the film,but i did not like the way Dave Mckay was portrayed,i've met him and he is a true gentleman.Cloughie did'nt need to be,as a forest fan we neede him to do exactly what he did do and he did it big time,thanks Brian.

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« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2010, 11:14:42 AM »
Got to admit he did a good job at Forest. Maybe it was the fact that Forest was a small club that made the difference. He wasn't expected to take them to the 1st Div title and European glory was he?

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« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2010, 11:19:52 AM »
Aha, there is the interesting thing. No doubt he and Taylor together had the skills required to take a smaller club to the top, but who has the skills to take a team already at their peak and leave a legacy? I doubt it was inexperience that caused Clough's downfall - could anyone have stepped into Revie's shoes and become a legend? At that time it was extremely unlikely. This also explains the YTV interview where Clough clearly wants to do something but can't think of anything to out-trump Revie other than doing the same "better". This was also all he had when he told the players to bin their medals. It wasn't the best aspiration to hold but as explained, what else could he aim for?

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« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2010, 11:31:51 AM »
Yep .. and I don't want to get into the 'big club - small club' argument but Forest have always been described as a nice little club and just maybe it was the lack of expectation that enabled him to become a legend there. No doubt he would have been at Derby as well if his ego hadn't got the better of him.

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« Reply #25 on: July 22, 2010, 11:54:06 AM »
There's no argument about that Stoop. At the time we are discussing, Leeds were indeed a "big club" :D

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« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2010, 12:07:22 PM »
Haha - still are mate - just not got a 'big team' ... yet

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« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2010, 17:42:11 PM »
Here we go again, still talking about the past, wise up guys, we,re crap, and allways have been since bobby robson nearly made it for us. lets get real, WE NEED AN ENGLISH MANAGER look at the last 8 teams in the world cup and who their managers were.

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« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2010, 17:59:49 PM »
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Here we go again, still talking about the past, wise up guys, we,re crap, and allways have been since bobby robson nearly made it for us. lets get real, WE NEED AN ENGLISH MANAGER look at the last 8 teams in the world cup and who their managers were.



This thread is not about England 8)

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« Reply #29 on: July 22, 2010, 23:33:45 PM »
I think most of the Dutch side would have made it into the Leeds team !!




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