Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Property For Sale in Calis Beach & Turkey => Moving To Turkey => Topic started by: BernieTeyze on June 18, 2013, 18:19:44 PM
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Sorry for the question, but it,s all part of our decision to move or not.
If we did die in Turkey, do you have to be buried there, are there any cremation facilities..
Can you be buried there?
Can you have the body sent back home at what sort of cost?
If we got terminally ill, are there treatments available there?
Hope I havent upset anyone,
Thanks Bernie
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My advice is don't die in Turkey.
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Ok, i,ll be doing my best..err but..what happens if I do..
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Don't want to put you off your possible move Bernie but it is not a country I would like for that to happen in, I know for a fact there are no cancer or heart surgery treatments in the Calis Fetiyhe area you have to go to Antalya or somewhere else quite far away, this was a big shock to me to find this out in April this year,also it is a muslim country so they are bound to do things differently there, don't know about cremation out there I am sure someone with more knowledge will come along in a mo :)
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Pertinent questions slikmrs, comes to us all eventually. Very brief answers to your questions:
Yes you can be buried here, most cemeteries have a foreigners section. No, as far as I know, you can't be cremated here. Yes, you can have a body repatriated for burial but I believe it is very expensive. As to terminal illness care, well there is an old peoples home in Fethiye but I don't know if they accept foreigners, and I guess the hospital care for the terminally ill would be the same as the UK, provided you have insurance or the funds to pay for it. Though as Karennina says you may have to go to one of the bigger cities for specialist care.
As Scunner says, try not to die here !!
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1. No there aren't any crematoria in Turkey.
2. You can be buried in Turkey. 2 or 3 of the cemetaries in the Fethiye area have sections set aside for foreigners.
3. Your body can be repatriated to the UK at a huge cost if your survivors so desire.
4. Although treatment for cancer is limited in Fethiye, the facilities in Antalya are as good as, if not better, than most European hospitals. Furthermore, most Turkish doctors have greater general skills than most European doctors. However, the downside is the costs that can be involved in the treatments and the travellling, and of course the difficulty encountered with translation of medical and technical language.
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I wrote to The Fethiye Times some time ago asking if they could put together a guide similar to their get a residence permit or get your MOT etc.
They replied that because each Belediye ( in my innocence I thought that Fethiye Belediye was what it said on the tin) is different it would be too complicated ( couldn't be bothered) to write such an article.
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Most of the informative stuff printed in Fethiye Times is put together by individuals who have been through a particular procedure and have then submitted and article for publication. However they're right in saying that each Belediye has different ways in dealing with burials for foreigners.
I've attended funerals of expats in Kaya, Ovacik, Ciflik and Fethiye and each one was organised in a different way and by totally different departments of the relevant council.
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Food for thought then.. we are both in good health at the minute, but if this is going to be our forever home..
How long forever might be for either of us,who knows and would either of us want to stop out there on our own if the worst should happen.
Nice to know there are good facilities in Antalya, but then the costs of extra medical are another thing to consider..
Thanks for the responses, much appreciated.
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all very pertinent to those of us like you who are making similar plans. Thanks for asking brave questions!
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You've got me thinking now about repatriation of bodies - there are a huge number of Asians in this country that take bodies out of the country simply because it is cheaper than a funeral in the UK. I wonder why it is so expensive to take a body out of Turkey?
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There is as far as i know a crematorium somewhere round the Marmaris area or further along the coast - seem to remember another forum speaking about it.
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No smoke without fire then.....
I'll get me coat.
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Hi Whilst on this subject, over the years I have never seen a funeral take place in Fethiye or the surrounding areas. Do they take place a night? : :)
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You've got me thinking now about repatriation of bodies - there are a huge number of Asians in this country that take bodies out of the country simply because it is cheaper than a funeral in the UK. I wonder why it is so expensive to take a body out of Turkey?
I think you'll find that it's not about the cost of burial in the UK. It's more about the wishes of the deceased to be buried on "homeground".
It's generally the airlines that make stacks of money on the repatriation of bodies but most costs can be covered by insurance.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8606895.stm
over the years I have never seen a funeral take place in Fethiye or the surrounding areas.
You need to get out more. ;)
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You've got me thinking now about repatriation of bodies - there are a huge number of Asians in this country that take bodies out of the country simply because it is cheaper than a funeral in the UK. I wonder why it is so expensive to take a body out of Turkey?
I think you'll find that it's not about the cost of burial in the UK. It's more about the wishes of the deceased to be buried on "homeground".
It's generally the airlines that make stacks of money on the repatriation of bodies but most costs can be covered by insurance.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8606895.stm
The Muslim religion requires a body to be buried "as soon as possible" after death. Those who wish to comply with that sentiment bury the bodies in the UK as taking the body out of the country delays the funeral even further. Cost of repatriation is definitely cheaper......but you are right - some people do specify they wish to go home!
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The Muslim religion requires a body to be buried "as soon as possible" after death.
Thanks for pointing out the obvious. ;)
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I think it might have to do with the heat in certain countries, Spain etc have to bury very quickly. I know in England bodies wait much longer. Some religions also require early burial. I can never understand why a dead person costs a zillion times more to fly home either.
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I think there is a place in Antalya that carries out cremations also the British consulate can help with this information. As for medical care Turkey has a very good track record compared with most countries. I would rather be ill and treated here rather than the UK. But it does come down to personal finances against NHS and of course family.
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I think it might have to do with the heat in certain countries, Spain etc have to bury very quickly.
They have refrigeration even in a backward country like Spain.
I attended the burial of an expat in Fethiye a few years ago and there was a delay of 15 days between her death and the burial. Her body had been kept under refrigeration at the Devlet Hospital without any problems. In fact, in Kaya, there's a custom-built trailer parked by the mosque on the Gemiler Road that is specifically for the preservation of bodies for burial. It has full refrigeration and air-conditioning and is in regular use to hold bodies where there is a delay in the funeral ceremony.
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That sounds really nice. Do they rent it out for short breaks?
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your bad.. : :)
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As coincidence would have it, I am dealing with a body returning to the UK from Turkey today. The flight costs were 662 Turkish Lira. That, of course, would be in addition to any undertaker costs, charges made by doctors to sign forms etc.....
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And no meal
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That sounds really nice. Do they rent it out for short breaks?
Of course. But you'll have to be quick. Others are dying to use it.
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Kkob, calm down, what I meant was in Spain it is a continuing 'custom' from the times when there was NO refrigeration. We know they have it now.
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Someone asked if the funerals take place at night...maybe some do but we have attended funerals in the daytime. As for medical treatment, through personal experience I can say in all honesty that it is better here than in the UK. You also get treated much faster. Yes you have to go to Antalya or elsewhere but Antalya is only a couple of hours drive from Fethiye. If you have SGK it covers costs of chemo, radiotherapy, meds etc. I have had to pay for surgery but only because I attend a private hospital. The medical team looking after me are brilliant and I just cannot praise them highly enough ;) By the way, I believe surgery is covered by SGK if you attend a state hospital.
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Antalya is only a couple of hours drive from Fethiye.
Are you still using those blue lights that went missing off the Trafik Polis car ? ;)
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Shush Alan... ;) Honestly though...2 hours 15 minutes each way...and we've driven there a lot over the last 6 months!!
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Masallah ;)
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UpnUntil a year agao there were no crematouriums in Turkey. ( I don't know if this has changed) but I do remember it was in one of the local rags that a company had applied to build one.
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we were eating in Gunlukbasi a couple of evenings ago (Kokorec yum ) and saw a coffin on the way to a funeral in a big green Belediye hearse, no pomp or ceremony about it at all.
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We live not far from the Cemetery in Calis and have seen Funerals. I remember one morning hearing lots of wailing and crying and looked out of the landing window at the back of the house and saw lots of men around a grave some on their knees they were crying really loudly, as we are quite a way from the cemetery there is farm land in front of us and then a road. I thought it strange there where only men in attendance, but was told by a Turkish friend that only men go to the funerals.
If you are in Calis you will see the big wooden stands with flowers on outside the Florists which are used for funerals.
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It is men-only at Muslim funerals but females are allowed to attend non-Muslim ones.
If you are in Calis you will see the big wooden stands with flowers on outside the Florists which are used for funerals.
99% of the time those stands are used for the decoration of new shops, businesses, wedding venues and a variety of other celebrations. It's very rare to have any at funerals unless it's that of a public figure or military personnel killed in action.
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we were walking to Kaya from Hisaronu last year, and as we passed the cemetery down there we could hear what I assume was the Imam conducting the prayers. It was quite haunting, but lovely at the same time, if that makes sense?
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KKOB. The Funeral we saw at Cemetery had those standards of flowers around the grave. Also, we saw some being made at the Florist in Fethiye when we were ordering the Wedding Flowers and I asked about them and was told there where for a funeral. So, must have been two important funerals.
I have also seen them at Weddings in Calis on lots of occasions.
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Yes, you dont tend to be awate of funeral processions like you would in the UK. But, I have seen a truck with a coffin on. Also I have been to a funeral where the coffin was in a van. So, you wouldn't know you had seen a 'hearse'.