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Information and Services in Turkey Section => Residency in Turkey, Visas, Work Permit Questions => Topic started by: Inspector on May 09, 2004, 19:04:37 PM

Title: Law On The Work Permit For Foreigners
Post by: Inspector on May 09, 2004, 19:04:37 PM
Here is the link to Law On The Work Permit For Foreigners

http://www.calisma.gov.tr/CGM/Law_Work.htm

As I learned if a foreigner wants to have his own company in Turkey. He has to get 10 000 000 000 000 Tl (approsimately 4 million Pounds) capital to Turkey For the Company.

If a foreigner wants to make a partnership to a Turkish Company has to bring 400 000 000 000 Tl(Approximately 150 000 Pounds capital to Turkey.
Denunciations about illegal working foreigners are secretly investigated by police and illegal working forigners deported.


For detailed info you can contact address written down.

Turkish Consulate General LONDON

Rutland Lodge , Rutland Garndens London SW 7 IBW-INGILTERE
  020-758 159 88
  020-758 462 35

INSPECTOR
 
     
Title: Law On The Work Permit For Foreigners
Post by: nirvana on September 12, 2006, 16:07:58 PM
Hi Inspector,

I agree. I went to start a company here and was told that I do not automatically get a work permit. I have to employ Turks to do my job. How do I profit then and pay taxes?

The law here is an ass and it is about time someone got interested in  the amount of hard earned coming out here and being spent here.
Title: Law On The Work Permit For Foreigners
Post by: maybe on September 12, 2006, 16:32:21 PM
I don't think it is unusual to have strict regulations in place that limit who can or cannot work or have a business in a country.  I'm not sure that it's a bad thing if it is to ensure that jobs are given to nationals rather than to immigrants of one type or another.  I realise that if I choose to move to Turkey I will find it very difficult to work there and that will annoy me if that happens, but I do not necesserily agree that it is unfair.  I'd be interested to know what their level of unemployment is and whether the regulations help to keep it low.  Or maybe they don't and they are purely obstructive for financial gain.
Title: Law On The Work Permit For Foreigners
Post by: KKOB on September 12, 2006, 18:53:35 PM
If you check the date of Inspector's post you'll see it's well over 2 years old. There have been some changes since then.
Title: Law On The Work Permit For Foreigners
Post by: ronzeus on September 12, 2006, 19:35:01 PM
You will also find Mustafa is now deputy chief of police in Fethye and was trying to help members falling foul of the law.
Title: Law On The Work Permit For Foreigners
Post by: winks on July 01, 2007, 10:08:19 AM
Hi everyone,new to this site, very informative, does the 150,000 currency still apply if you go into partnership with turkish nationals.
Title: Law On The Work Permit For Foreigners
Post by: number2 on July 01, 2007, 11:04:03 AM
But i can buy into a bar for £35000, is that not classed as a business. Alan
Title: Law On The Work Permit For Foreigners
Post by: ECHOSTAR on September 26, 2008, 09:17:13 AM
thats right alan you can be a director in a turkish partership and your company can pay the kdv and ssk for you employees but you are not allowed to work in the company (hush hush)not unless you become a national or have a work permit
Title: Law On The Work Permit For Foreigners
Post by: starman on September 26, 2008, 16:57:06 PM
Correct
Title: Law On The Work Permit For Foreigners
Post by: Crabbit on September 26, 2008, 19:30:44 PM
Is this the longest running thread on CBF ?



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Title: Law On The Work Permit For Foreigners
Post by: captainjon on April 27, 2009, 18:25:14 PM
It is now,threadbare!!!!!!!
Title: Law On The Work Permit For Foreigners
Post by: kariaapartments on December 09, 2009, 07:46:07 AM
Apologies to Crabbit for reopening this, but I would like to know what the position is today regards setting up a Ltd company and if anyone has done it under the current laws. If anyone can recommend a point of advice (Accountant, solicitor, etc) that would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Law On The Work Permit For Foreigners
Post by: jinky on December 09, 2009, 10:44:43 AM
if you speek to ronnie from the irish pub fethiye(hoops man)on the forum he can give you all the ins and outs.
Title: Re: Law On The Work Permit For Foreigners
Post by: Karennina on March 10, 2013, 17:27:09 PM
yesterday I stumbled across a company in Turkey asking to recruit an English employee in the advert it said they would sort out a work permit... I am really confused as I thought we were not allowed a work permit or indeed to work in Turkey?
I am just curious about it all if you applied for the job and were successful how would you know if the work permit had been applied for and you would not be risking deportation?
Thanks for any replies  :)
Title: Re: Law On The Work Permit For Foreigners
Post by: Anne on March 10, 2013, 21:00:38 PM
I seen the advert too.
This company have always, since we've been coming to Calis had an English member of staff so I'm assuming all is above board and legal
Title: Re: Law On The Work Permit For Foreigners
Post by: nichola on March 10, 2013, 21:27:22 PM
A business wanting to employ a foreigner has to show that the job cannot be carried by a Turk. The need for excellent English written and spoken may well be considered to meet this requirement.

It is actually possible contrary to popular belief to work in Turkey; there are just hoops to be jumped through and some businesses may not wish to go to the trouble and/or expense. Those that do have probably found it worth their while in terms of the benefits it brings.
Title: Re: Law On The Work Permit For Foreigners
Post by: Karennina on March 11, 2013, 05:59:40 AM
Many thanks Anne and Nichola for the replies   ;)
Title: Re: Law On The Work Permit For Foreigners
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on March 11, 2013, 08:09:09 AM
In 2006 my daughter, who was not married or in a relationship at that time fancied working in Turkey.  She was offered a job in Fethiye by a local business and was told there was no problem getting her a work permit.  She had been educated at Uni and was working for an Oil Company in the U.K. on a very good wage.  She was really surprised when she found out the wage she was being offered in Fethiye and decided (I am glad to say) she would not want to take such a massive drop in wages, particularly as she was given no guarantees about her future in the job.   
Title: Re: Law On The Work Permit For Foreigners
Post by: nichola on March 11, 2013, 08:55:37 AM
You can still expect to work longer hours for a lot less pay, and in some jobs its commission only or in some cases one might end up not being paid at all, and not just foreigners might find the latter happening to them.

Things have improved overall but of course the pay is relative to the cost of living. A twenty grand salary is barely more than the minimum wage in the UK and wouldn't buy you very much but over here you could live like a Queen on that sort of salary, not that you'll find wages like that here in little old Fethiye.
Title: Re: Law On The Work Permit For Foreigners
Post by: Karennina on March 11, 2013, 10:10:30 AM
It is not all about money for me, I am deeply unhappy in my work in the UK...
I realise the wage would be based  on a Turkish salary, lots of things to weigh up here but I am very tempted providing it is all above board purely because I would not want to risk deportation, my salary in the UK is rubbish for the work and hours I do...
Lots of things to weigh up here but thanks everyone  :)
Title: Re: Law On The Work Permit For Foreigners
Post by: GordonA on March 11, 2013, 15:43:40 PM
This subject makes one wonder how the Ankara Agreement ;(Sept. 12th 1963), was ever ratified. As part of this agreement, Turkish citizens have the legal right to come to ANY EU member country,( or state!!) and CANNOT, under ANY circumstance, be discriminated against in matters of employment, yet, if  anyone from outside of Turkey tries to find employment there, many very large brick walls are encountered, some of them belonging to prisons !! 
Title: Re: Law On The Work Permit For Foreigners
Post by: JohnF on March 11, 2013, 15:49:45 PM
They can't be discriminated against in respect of employment once legally resident in that country - however gaining legal residence in many EU countries can be a long and expansive process.  Swings... roundabouts...

JF
Title: Re: Law On The Work Permit For Foreigners
Post by: GordonA on March 11, 2013, 18:01:13 PM
Doesn't appear to be a 'long and expansive process' for Turkish people in the U.K. JohnF !! Just apply to the specially formed Ankara Agreement Visa Department, get the Visa, bingo, there you go !! It should have been a reciprocal agreement, NOT totally one-sided!!
Title: Re: Law On The Work Permit For Foreigners
Post by: JohnF on March 11, 2013, 18:24:06 PM
Not quite so easy as applying and then simply sitting back waiting for the visa, but then you know that as well as I do.

Incidentally, it hasn't been called the "Ankara Agreement" visa for some time, its called the European Community Association Agreement or ECAA.

With regards to why it wasn't reciprocal, I haven't a clue - but I suspect that when it was drafted (early sixties) the thought that anyone from an EC country would want to go and work in Turkey just didn't enter their minds!

JF

Title: Re: Law On The Work Permit For Foreigners
Post by: Ray1951 on August 01, 2017, 10:17:49 AM
Whilst these regulations appear harsh, I can't help but think that the UK could have been a better place if these regulations had been applied throughout the UK.
Title: Re: Law On The Work Permit For Foreigners
Post by: Inspector on October 26, 2017, 11:27:53 AM
DECISION No 1/80 OF THE ASSOCIATION COUNCIL of 19 September 1980 on the
development of the Association 
ANKARA ACT
CHAPTER II
SOCIAL PROVISIONS
SECTION 1

Questions relating to employment and the free movement of workers
Article 6
1.   Subject to Article 7 on free access to employment for members of his family, a Turkish worker duly registered as belonging to the labour force of a Member State:
− shall be entitled in that Member State, after one year’s legal employment, to the renewal of his permit to work for the same employer, if a job is available;
− shall be entitled in that Member State, after three years of legal employment and subject to the priority to be given to workers of Member States of the Community, to respond to another offer of employment, with an employer of his choice, made under normal conditions and registered with the employment services of that State, for the same occupation;
− shall enjoy free access in that Member State to any paid employment of his choice, after four years of legal employment.
2.   Annual holidays and absences for reasons of maternity or an accident at work or short periods of sickness shall be treated as periods of legal employment. Periods of involuntary unemployment duly certified by the relevant authorities and long absences on account of sickness shall not be treated as periods of legal employment, but shall not affect rights acquired as the result of the preceding period of employment.
3.   The procedures for applying paragraphs 1 and 2 shall be those established under national rules.
Article 7
The members of the family of a Turkish worker duly registered as belonging to the labour force of a Member State, who have been authorized to join him:
− shall be entitled – subject to the priority to be given to workers of Member States of the Community – to respond to any offer of employment after they have been legally resident for at least three years in that Member State:
− shall enjoy free access to any paid employment of their choice provided they have been legally resident there for at least five years.
Children of Turkish workers who have completed a course of vocational training in the host country may respond to any offer of employment there, irrespective of the length of time they have been resident in that Member State, provided one of their parents has been legally employed in the Member State concerned for at least three years. Article 8
1.   Should it not be possible in the Community to meet an offer of employment by calling on the labour available on the employment market of the Member States and should the Member States, within the framework of their provisions laid down by law, regulation or administrative action, decide to authorize a call on workers who are not nationals of a Member State of the Community in order to meet the offer of employment, they shall endeavour in so doing to accord priority to Turkish workers.
2.   The employment services of the Member State shall endeavour to fill vacant positions which they have registered and which the duly registered Community labour force has not been able to fill with Turkish workers who are registered as unemployed and legally resident in the territory of that Member State.
Article 9
Turkish  children residing legally in a Member State of the Community with their parents who are or have been legally employed in that Member State, shall be admitted to courses of general education, apprenticeship and vocational training under the same educational entry qualifications as the children of nationals of that Member State. They may in that Member State be eligible to benefit from the advantages provided for under the national legislation in this area.
Article 10
1.   The Member States of the Community shall as regards remuneration and other conditions of work grant Turkish workers duly registered as belonging to their labour forces treatment involving no discrimination on the basis of nationality between them and Community workers.
2.   Subject to the application of Articles 6 and 7, the Turkish workers referred to in paragraph 1 and members of their families shall be entitled, on the same footing as Community workers, to assistance from the employment services in their search for employment.
Article 11
Nationals of the Member States duly registered as belonging to the labour force in Turkey, and members of their families who have been authorized to join them, shall enjoy in that country the rights and advantages referred to in Articles 6, 7, 9 and 10 if they meet the conditions laid down in those Articles.
Article 12
Where a Member State of the Community or Turkey experiences or is threatened with disturbances on its employment market which might seriously jeopardize the standard of living or level of employment in a particular region, branch of activity or occupation, the State concerned may refrain from automatically applying Articles 6 and 7. The State concerned shall inform the Association Council of any such temporary restriction. Article 13
The Member States of the Community and Turkey may not introduce new restrictions on the conditions of access to employment applicable to workers and members of their  families legally resident and employed in their respective territories. Article 14
1.   The provisions of this section shall be applied subject to limitations justified on grounds  of public policy, public security or  public health.
2.   They shall not prejudice the rights and obligations arising from national legislation or bilateral agreements between Turkey and the Member States of the Community where such legislation or agreements provide for more favourable treatment for their nationals. Article 15
1.   So as to be in a position to ensure the harmonious application of the provisions of this section and determine that they are applied in such a way as to exclude the danger of disturbance of the employment markets, the Association Committee shall periodically exchange information in order to improve mutual knowledge of the economic and social situation, including the state of and outlook for the labour market in the Community and in Turkey.
It shall each year present a report on its activities to the Association Council.
2.   The Association Committee shall be authorized to enlist the assistance of an ad hoc Working Party in order to implement paragraph 1.
Article 16
1.   The provisions of this section shall apply from 1 December 1980.
2.   From 1 June 1983, the Association Council shall, particularly in the light of the reports on activities referred to in Article 15, examine the results of application of the provisions of this section with a view to preparing solutions which might apply as from 1 December 1983.

Regarding to Decision Above many Turkish citizens get free work permit and create their own bussines in European countries.
You can read and if you say that you have rights regarding the articles then you will apply for work permit and you will go to courth if they dont issue work permit.
As you know at he beginning also European countries did not obey the rules on Act and Turkish citizens get it by courth process