Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Other Local Resorts & Areas => Uzumlu Discussion Forum => Topic started by: kpj on November 01, 2008, 09:48:28 AM
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I have not been on this forum for a VERY long time. For reasons only Keith and myself know, as we were both set up by the same person.
The majority of people on this forum do give genuine good information, however, there is a minority (whom I could name and you know who you are) who seem to use the forum to have sly digs at other people.
Wake up, get off your A***S and do something good for the community.
I've read on a previous post, that someone suggested a fund raiser party at the belediye and then promptly passed the buck. Now it seems to have died a death. IS ANYTHING GOING TO COME OF THIS?
Myself & others went to businesses, shops and private houses collecting donations for the funds to fight the proposed cement works and I was surprised at how many ex-pats just did not want to know. If it was not for the hard work by the minority, the majority of you would be surrounded by 4 walls that would be worthless.
There is another fund raiser still going on. Every other friday there is a fun quiz which has been raising money for the school.
The total amount achieved so far is over 5,000YTL. To date the school have had a new volley ball/basketball court, satellite system, and 48 pairs of new shoes were bought for some of the children. Also Computers & a television have been privately donated.
It is now being arranged for 215 fleeces with the school logo to be delivered.
Have the majority of you contributed towards any of these? I THINK NOT!!!!
A very big THANK YOU to the minority for their efforts in supporting both of these projects
Kev
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dear kpj - I don't know if your email was targetting at any one particular person; but how on earth can you know everyone who has or hasn't donated ? there is more than one way to donate to the good of the community and some people don't shout about what they do, they just get on quietly and do it themselves. Some people aren't there to be able to contribute at these fund raising events, but that doesn't mean than when they are in the village they don't contribute by other means.
Before you lump everyone together, I suggest you do your full homework...as I am sure there are many who read this who do give that you don't know about....
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What right have you to insist that everyone donates to these causes? Perhaps they don't agree with them or maybe they just don't want to get involved.
Get off your high horse and let people decide themselves what they want to do with their time and money!
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how rude, some of us will donnate when we want to not when we are told to, i support many good causes but do it because i want to not because some bully tells me to
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Kpj At the start of your rant you stated that people use the Forum to give out information perhaps you could have done the same to advertise what time, which Friday and where the quiz is held so if people voluntarily wished to attend they could so. As for having sly digs at people that is precisely what you are you doing. The rest of your post was just to tell people what you have done so we could all say 'well done' to feed your ego. The majority of people that I know who do good works just get on with it and don't feel the need to shout it from the roof tops.
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If this guy is an example of Uzumlu community spirit, I'm glad I don't live there!
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He isnt!
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This guy is why most of the village were upset (if that is the right word) with the anti Cement Factory committee, Donations should and mostly were collected on a volantry basis , we didnt need press ganging into donating by the size of our villa or the size of our car ,most folk in the village have donated to the fight at some time !As far as a village party is concerned at no time did Bikerchick or myself say that we would organise a party ,i and i think bikerchick thought that this would be a good way of building bridges between all, still wrong again. And as far as being surrounded by worthless walls ,i retired to this area because i love Uzumlu and its inhabitants not to see how much profit i can make on my home ,there thats a load off my chest can now get back to enjoying my life in Uzumlu.Calvin
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Well hopefuly Calvin and others, you will come along to our next event on the 12th as it has been organised by Eric and I only. It would be nice to see you again and it is a nice social night for all.
One man should not be held responsible for a whole committee (he wasn't on the committee) of hard working people, so lets put the past behind us and reunite for the bigger picture of helping everyone in Uzumlu and protecting the place we all chose to live in.
Fi
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Love to be there but prior engagements
Regards Calvin
ps Fi sent you an email
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Uzumlu residents continue to make the place an attractive area to retire to !
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Sting...not all Uzumlu residents so please do not lump us all under that banner, it's a very small minority.
Fi
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Why ??? oh Why ? do people feel the need to have a bitch on an open forum ?
We love Uzumlu, we love the people of Uzumlu (well, 98% of them !), why do the very odd few, constantly want to put a spin on what its like ? It is a fantastic little community, and I for one, can't wait to hang up my boots and retire there. No, we can't get on with everyone, but we are all grown ups, if you have differences, just accept them and respect other peoples opinions. fi - Eric, we wish you every success with your next event. All those out there who are dubious, go to uzumlu yourselves and experience its true magic, don't listen to those who seem to exist to 'dish' it.
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Every village has it's idiots and the smaller the village the more space they take up, all the people I have spent time with from Uzumlu are great people and would love to meet them again sometime soon ;)
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Originally posted by calvin 1949
As far as a village party is concerned at no time did Bikerchick or myself say that we would organise a party ,i and i think bikerchick thought that this would be a good way of building bridges between all, still wrong again.
As I read it, the issue with that was the suggestion that all the hard work and functions organised to highlight the cement factory issue (arranged by Fi & Eric etc) should be celebrated by all with a party for all arranged by Fi & Eric!
How disappointing it must have been, to read that all your efforts and time were worthy of recognition and celebration - with a party, if they wanted to organise it themselves! A party was an excellent idea and would probably have brought people closer in the area.
For God's sake, isn't it obvious that a party to celebrate someone's success should be arranged FOR them, rather than BY them! Sorry if this sounds cynical (actually I'm not that sorry) but this World seems full of those who do, totally outnumbered by those who won't but might if someone else does all the work for them.
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There's a pattern emerging from these topics, a relatively unknown comes on here makes a provocative statement, then just sits back and watches, probably laughing his head off.
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Scunner, can you point to the phrase saying they were expected to organise it?????
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You know me, of course I can:
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Originally posted by calvin 1949
Sounds good to me a local event in the belediye, big raffle to raise some more for the fighting fund, could even invite those funny folk up from Calis never know the may like it up here , hows about it Fi can you organise somthing ?
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Ye but apart from that bit...
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I'm organising a surprise party for myself
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I'll be a surprise guest
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Great, I love surprises
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You can't surprise a man with a dog
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You can if you have a very sharp stick
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That would surprise the dog
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I wouldn't be surprised if someone from Uzumlu butts in soon
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I doubt it, they're arranging a surprise party
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I can win an argument on any topic, against any opponent. People know this, and steer clear of me at parties. Often, as a sign of their great respect, they don't even invite me.
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Not much point butting in because Scunner said it all....
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I'm not knocking BCB or Calvin, or indeed anyone else. From the various things I have arranged I know the feeling that if you do it, people are happy, and if you don't, nobody else will. I'm not even talking about good causes or charities really - how many times do people suggest a CBF meet up, then wait for me to arrange it? If I don't, it rarely happens. CBF gives everyone the free facility to arrange meet ups, and it can be frustrating to see such apathy.
On the specific subject of charities, those who donate and those who don't, of course you can't press gang and pressure people into donating, but it is irritating to see people not supporting you. I continually read about the wonderful moments, stories and kindness experienced over here, and it sometimes appears that lovely as it was, it wasn't worth a fiver for people who have relatively bugger all.
I'm not saying it's right to feel that way, and of course you don't know whether people donate in their own private way - what I am saying is there are far too many people sitting around, day in day out, wondering what people are going to arrange for them to do.
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I have just got back from Erkin's funeral and I must say we can learn a lot from our Turkish friends. Erkin was from Istanbul originally and settled here a number of years ago. That said, in a small Turkish village he could still be regarded as a 'yabanci'. However, he had made a lot of friends, both Turkish and Ex-pat, and there was a good turn out of villagers both at the Mosque and at the graveside. Ex-pats who also befriended him were also there (those that knew he had died, it is difficult to inform everyone when the funeral is within 24 hours). We were made very welcome by our Turkish hosts, we did feel uncomfortable as to how to behave at a Turkish funeral but were informed what to do and were welcomed into the proceedings, and Erkin's Brother and Son were visibly moved by the turnout of both Village and Ex-pat friends.
I suppose what I am trying to say is that the Villagers showed us that no matter who you are, where you are from or what your religion is, we are ALL Uzumlu villagers and should rejoice in that, put differences aside and get on with living life to the full.
I certainly learnt a lot from today, I hope others have/will too.
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I am very sorry we didn't make it to the funeral but by the time we found out it was too late. I am so glad there was support from both the Turkish and Expat villagers.
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Scunner, I concede that point about a phrase mentioning Fi organising things. I replied in a rush as I was about to go out. That'll teach me. More than that I am not prepared to discuss as I would prefer not to.
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No probs Linda, it is difficult to let everyone know when funerals take place within 24 hours. There are friends of his all over that will not know he has died yet, some are in the UK some are in close by resorts but the problem of communication is still the same.
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Thank you Eric.
As most people now know Erkan Kahraman passed away on Saturday night.
Not only was he my best friend, he was my brother, uncle and father all rolled in to one. It was a pleasure to have known him.
So as you can see I have been a little pre-occupied lately and therefore a little slow in answering this post.
As the heading says "Community Spirit".
Well, Erkan was a prime example of what I was getting at. He would do anything for anyone, no matter who you were and never asked for anything in return.
Those who have had the privilege to know him would say he was a great contributor to the community.
You haven't got to put your hand in your pocket to do something good for this small community, just a little of your time and effort maybe. There are lots of other projects that could be done that would cost nothing but time.
So take a leaf out of this great mans book.
Smile, it costs nothing and help is free.