Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Information and Services in Turkey Section => Residency in Turkey, Visas, Work Permit Questions => Topic started by: Firo on July 27, 2010, 15:22:29 PM
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Copied from British Embassy web site today
Visitors
A visitor's visa valid for 90 days is issued to British Citizens at the port of entry on payment of £10 (English notes only) . British diplomatic/official passport holders must apply for a visa before travelling to Turkey.
We recently received reports that Turkish immigration procedures for British visitors (and the nationals of 62 other countries) had changed from 14 July. The change meant that British visitors were being issued with visas which were valid for a stay of up to 90 days within a 180 day period. Visitors with this type of visa had to wait until the 181st day before applying for a new visa.
Following these reports, the British Ambassador called on the Turkish Minister of the Interior on 22 July to seek clarification. The Ambassador raised the difficulties that the implementation, without warning, would cause many British people in Turkey, and to the citizens of other countries affected. The Minister said that no change in rules would be taking place.
The Ministry of Interior has now confirmed that the proposed change has been delayed. All ports of entry have been informed and visa procedures will revert to those in place before 14 July. British nationals will once again be able to enter Turkey on 90 day visas.
We are following up with the Ministry of Interior to establish if a new implementation date is proposed and what action, if any, those with 180 day visas need to take. New information will be posted here when we have it.
Staying in Turkey beyond the date of your visa is taken seriously by the Turkish Authorities. If you overstay you will be fined upon departure. Fines vary according to the length of time you overstay. If you overstay and are fined, you must apply for your next visa at a Turkish Embassy or Consulate overseas before you travel. You may also be banned from re-entering Turkey for a period of time as follows:-
* Overstay 1-15 days - no ban.
* Overstay from 16-90 days - banned for up to three months.
* Overstay for more than 90 days i.e. from the 91st day, banned for up to six months.
Disclaimer: Please note that this information was provided by the Ministry of the Interior and the Turkish Security Police Directorate (Foreigners Department). Although we do our best to ensure that the content is correct, we cannot take responsibility for Turkey's immigration policy or the application of it. If you have further queries, please contact the relevant Turkish Foreigners Police Department in the area where you reside.
British Consular Services Turkey
26 July 2010
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This statement is already in the visa thread.
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I know but as it is new news I thought it needed a thread of it's own so no-one misses it.:D
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Thats a point also but maybe thread should be locked before 2 visa thread start going and make this a sticky.
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Not down to me on that thought but you are correct.
Trouble is not everyone goes back to a thread when, as the other one seemed, there was no new news, hence why I started the new one which shows everyone quickly that there is new news that they need to know.
Moderators it's over to you.
Fi
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Well the 44 pager points to this one now and is finally locked. God bless it.
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Originally posted by Scunner
God bless it.
And all who sail in it...............Provided of course that they've got a visa ! ;)
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Unless they sail in it for 90 days of course Alan
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Maybe you should have seen the optician as well as the dentist when you were here, it was 46 pages not 44:D ;)
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Innit ! :D ;):D
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Originally posted by Diverbaz 1
Maybe you should have seen the optician as well as the dentist when you were here, it was 46 pages not 44:D ;)
Mange tout Rodney, Mange tout
I am only guilty of laziness, I was going to go back and check how many pages it was but to be honest I couldn't be bothered and couldn't think of anyone who might trivial enough to pull me up on it.
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Well now you know who could be trivial enough to pull you up on it... ;) 8)
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Thers's always one:D
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There's generally more than one lol
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Makes idiots of those that have bought residency to live in Turkey if this is true..............legal residents pay nearly £400 a year to live here and doing it though the back door pay £40 a year to live here!!!!!
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No it doesn't, it makes those who have bought residency legal
It doesn't cost £40 to do it "through the back door" either!!!
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Originally posted by turkish delight
Makes idiots of those that have bought residency to live in Turkey if this is true..............legal residents pay nearly £400 a year to live here and doing it though the back door pay £40 a year to live here!!!!!
idiots! how rude... I can't think of anything more irritating than having to leave the country every 90 days particularly in winter when sometimes boat trips to Meis aren't the joy they no doubt are in summer with the weather so rough they even get cancelled.
It's not unheard of either for people to find they end up here illegaly when a trip is cancelled due to adverse weather conditions
There are advantages to having a resident permit that people that people on tourist visas don't have and which I am sure I have seen covered elsewhere on this forum.
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Exactly! Residency works out at £100/quarter as a comparison. The idea of going to Meis more than twice in my life is enough to numb my brain forever. Being careful not to miss the date, getting up early & going to Kas, hoping the boat is going - give me residency anytime, even at £400 a year. Better than being an illegal!
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Plus there is still a disclaimer as with the last lot of information ;)
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Here's to another 44 pages, cheers. ;):D
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we were last out in early june and have the 90/180 day type visa,we will be back in late september so do we risk going direct to passport control.or will we be sent to join the back of the visa line and have to pay again.what do you think?
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This change of attitude by the Turkish Interior Ministry still does not make it legal for Foreign National Residents to live in Turkey on a Tourist Visa. It may be worthwhile for all such Residents to keep fingers crossed that the authorities don't retrospectively levy fines upon said Residents who have, after all, been living there illegally.
Cheers, Gordy, : :) ;)
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Well said - and will we be able to call the likes of member "turkish delight" an idiot if he is deported for abusing the tourist visa system? I can imagine something like that will eventually come.
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:D:D
Well, thought I'd make my first real post after reading the bible on the original thread!!! Myself and the wife are intending to come to fethiye area within the next couple of years on a permanent basis, but we intend to rent rather than buy. Now, I have to say that I strongly agree with the residency permit, but what I equally strongly disagree with is the cost to British residents in comparison to other nationals. Thanks to Turkey Tony (from another forum) for the following comparison:
And finally the cost to some other European nationals. ( 1 Year)
UNITED KINGDOM......................430.00 GBP 507 EUROS(£=Eu1.18)
GERMAN.........................................28.00 EUROS!!!!!!!!!
ITALIAN........................................13.00 EUROS!!!!!!!!!
BELGIAN........................................13.00 EUROS!!!!!!!!!
SWISS..........................................51.OO EUROS!!!!!!!!
AUSTRIAN.......................................82.00 EUROS
This is what reall sticks in the craw and is what the British ambassador should be addressing. With the exception of the Germans, I've never seen the others in Turkey in any numbers, and it's extremely unlikely that the Germans, Belgians or Austrians will EVER vote to allow Turkey into the EU. It's an undeniable fact that British people DO make a substantial input to the local Aegean and Mediterranean economies, and it seems to be totally unfair that a 4000% difference should exist between ourselves and the Belgians and Italians. Could the announcement today have anything to do with David Cameron's speech this morning?!!
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Originally posted by GordonA
This change of attitude by the Turkish Interior Ministry still does not make it legal for Foreign National Residents to live in Turkey on a Tourist Visa. It may be worthwhile for all such Residents to keep fingers crossed that the authorities don't retrospectively levy fines upon said Residents who have, after all, been living there illegally.
Cheers, Gordy, : :) ;)
Thanks Gordy for putting this idea in their heads! You never know who are reading these posts!
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The reason the price for residency is so high for brits is because the british government make the price for visa's for turks who want to go to england very high so will the british government reduce their visa prices?
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Originally posted by holmej
This is what reall sticks in the craw and is what the British ambassador should be addressing. With the exception of the Germans, I've never seen the others in Turkey in any numbers, and it's extremely unlikely that the Germans, Belgians or Austrians will EVER vote to allow Turkey into the EU. It's an undeniable fact that British people DO make a substantial input to the local Aegean and Mediterranean economies, and it seems to be totally unfair that a 4000% difference should exist between ourselves and the Belgians and Italians. Could the announcement today have anything to do with David Cameron's speech this morning?!!
You have to ask the british goverment about this. After all its not about grabbing money from tourists as far more germans and russians come to turkey than brits. What ever the brits charge turks then turkey will respond likewise.
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I have lived here on Residency for a number of years and I am not an idiot, I just choose to live by the laws of the country Im in. At least I havent been in a panic over the last few weeks about whether I can stay or not. As to it costing 40 pound a year to live here illegally, it actually costs more than that as you have to pay for a visa trip every ninety days at least, and in the 1st year you have to make the visa trip 5 times as 90 times 4 is only 360 days So 5 visas needed. I also could not be bothered to go in and out of the country every 90 days and I am not filling my passport up with visa stamps!
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Originally posted by turkish delight
Makes idiots of those that have bought residency to live in Turkey if this is true..............legal residents pay nearly £400 a year to live here and doing it though the back door pay £40 a year to live here!!!!!
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instead of comparing 40 pounds to 400. Have you accounted for the travel costs involved in getting the visa renewed. I am not upto date with prices but I am pretty sure the ferry boats charge a little more then nothing for the return journey and then also the travel expense of getting to the ferry.
After paying the bus or petrol fee, any parking, food and drink, ferry ticket, changing money to euros and shopping you do over there then that figure would be close or more tehn 100 pounds and you have to do this 4 times which in the end of the day is all a hassle and run the risk of overstaying your visa, ferry getting cancelled due to bad weather, hangovers in the morning etc etc.
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My point exactly Also how many people leave the visa run to exactly the last day? Especially in the wintertime as the boats dont run everyday So actually getting less than 90 days? Ok its still a little cheaper but I couldnt be doing with the hassle every 3 months just to save a few pounds.
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Originally posted by starmanTM
instead of comparing 40 pounds to 400. Have you accounted for the travel costs involved in getting the visa renewed. I am not upto date with prices but I am pretty sure the ferry boats charge a little more then nothing for the return journey and then also the travel expense of getting to the ferry.
After paying the bus or petrol fee, any parking, food and drink, ferry ticket, changing money to euros and shopping you do over there then that figure would be close or more tehn 100 pounds and you have to do this 4 times which in the end of the day is all a hassle and run the risk of overstaying your visa, ferry getting cancelled due to bad weather, hangovers in the morning etc etc.
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Originally posted by holmej
And finally the cost to some other European nationals. ( 1 Year)
UNITED KINGDOM.................................507 EUROS
GERMAN.........................................28.00 EUROS
How to reward the countries that support Turkey's EU membership and those who don't :-\
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Originally posted by Scunner
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Originally posted by holmej
And finally the cost to some other European nationals. ( 1 Year)
UNITED KINGDOM.................................507 EUROS
GERMAN.........................................28.00 EUROS
How to reward the countries that support Turkey's EU membership and those who don't :-\
aah - but maybe they realised he was only saying that because he was visiting their country ;)
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And how much does a turk pay to enter Germany?
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How much does a Turk pay to enter the UK? Tourist Visa and Residents Visa. So many rumours but no hard facts.
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http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/howtoapply/visafees/visafeesvisit Hope this helps Eric?
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Interesting little bit of reading regarding visas to UK. Makes you wonder where the Turks got the idea for 90 within 180 days.
http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/howtoapply/infs/inf2visitors#21230918
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Baz funny that when i first came to Turkey to reside, the residency application was up to 5 years, when and if you applied and paid for five you were often issued 1 year, or a max of 2 years,you did not get a refund either, but as the fees where hardly worth worrying about then, people never bothered about it. the fees now are more for one person, than it was then for three people for a 2 year period, 10 years ago that is, but as they say what goes round comes round.
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PARDON!!!! Could we have that explained in plain English, please!!
Gordy.
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I got a little lost too when faced with "more for one, than it was then for three for 2 years 10 years ago" :D
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GORDON, hows that? :)) and Scunner :))
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Ah
Is the answer 42?
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Nooooooo the answer is always seven.
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I am suprised no one wants to comment on the link I put on regarding, if a visitor to the UK pays for a 2 year visa they can only stay in the country for 6 months out of 12, so in effect a 2 year visa is only valid for 1 year.
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No Baz, it is valid for two years :D
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But only one year in the country in 2 years. ;)
Not surprising though that the Turks are trying to emulate this.
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Also we don't have to queue up in the street in London with not even a guaranteed appointment to discuss whether or not we should get a visa, or to be told there will be no more interviews today and to queue up again tomorrow and try again.
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See today's article at Fethiye Times - On Hold:D
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Originally posted by Alan Keating
See today's article at Fethiye Times - On Hold:D
See the first post on this topic by Firo -- we know ;)
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Originally posted by vonny
The reason the price for residency is so high for brits is because the british government make the price for visa's for turks who want to go to england very high so will the british government reduce their visa prices?
Maybe they should try Scotland !!!
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I wrote to the British Consulate in Turkey re the high costs of resident permit fees for UK applicants in Turkey and they responded stating that it is NOT a recipocal agreement (as can be clearly seen in the posted UK permit fees) and that they do agree it is unfair on British residents in Turkey, however because it is domestic law they cannot do anything about it!:(
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The Turkish Ministry of Finance is now having to re - budget following the loss of millions of TL income now that the new Visa rules have been withdrawn.
It will no longer benefit from the massive rise in income from the " Visa - hoppers" having to obtain the expensive Residence Permits.
The men at the Ministry have come out with a cunning plan to recoup their losses.
There will be a new Status called the "Exemption From Extra Surcharge"
Those qualifying for this status will be:
1. Turkish Nationals who carry their ID at all times.
2. Non - nationals with Residence Permits who carry them at all times.
3. All genuine tourists who carry their Passports and their official Flight Itineraries at all times.
Not granted this status will be any persons who are unable or unwilling to produce their passports, and any persons whose passports show any evidence of Visa - hopping activity.
Those in the Not-Granted "Exemption From Extra Surcharge" category will be required to pay an extra 2 TL every time they purchase an EFES. This 2TL goes direct to the Government.
The Finance Ministry calculate that after one year of this extra income they will be able to halve the Residence Permit fees and still be quids (sorry , typo: should read "TL") in.
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Collectors are now being appointed for for the purpose of bringing in this extra revenue. You will gain a commission on all revenue obtained in your area.......In this position a work permit is not required you must however comply with the above criteria
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Originally posted by tribalelder
Collectors are now being appointed for for the purpose of bringing in this extra revenue. You will gain a commission on all revenue obtained in your area.......In this position a work permit is not required you must however comply with the above criteria
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Thanks Tribalelder.
I had thought that as I would be the main contributor to this extra revenue they might have at least offered me the job of DIRECTOR.-
Drinker In Restaurants. Efes Consumer. Thirst Overriding Reason!
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Can someone please tell me regarding the visa situation, has it reverted back to the old way of 90 days or just under you will need to purchase a new visa if the old type one has expired, or if you have the new type in your passport and you have had your 90 days do you need to purchase a new one on arrival. many thanks do want to get a fine or a ban from entering turkey! thanks for any help.
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Karen the rules have reverted back to previous rules as the new ones have been postponed.