Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Calis Beach Forum => Expat & Property Owners Q and A Forum => Topic started by: WendyA on June 01, 2017, 12:20:08 PM
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Sorry, I xan't see the answer to this query. We have just come out to Calis and I had intended to follow recommendations for a hairdresser (Turkan?) near Baba Firin in Calis. However I just went to look for her and couldn't find a suitable looking premises. Any advice gratefully received! Many thanks...
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There are quite a few Hairdressers in Calis just now. A couple along Baris Manco Blv. So up the road on the left from Baba Firins and then turn right at the roundabout. There is also one in the old town square where the Guitar Bar used to be.
I cannot recall seeing one by Baba Firins and we go there most every day for bread etc., I know the is one further down on the left going toward the Hospital.
I think a lot of ladies here go to Wella on the Gunlukbasi Road.
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congratulations your majesty on reaching 11000 posts on cbf. lol
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turkan hairdressers is right near babafirin. Standing with your back to BF you need To cross the road and turn left, past what used to be the hotel but at the moment is building works. A little further up there on a corner is a printing/photo shop and Turkan is right next to here. Think the premises used to be a pool:maintenance shop.
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Devindazzle's directions are correct & the OH had her hair done recently here & thinks she was brilliant,
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Thanks very much, all. I'd heard she was good and fairly convenient too! Will go and seek her out. Thanks again!
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Just wanted to say, some mixed feelings re my hair with Turkan. Not sure my instructions were taken into consideration and I came out with a very different colour and cut to that which I had intended. Getting used to it some weeks later, but feel the need to have a tweak to it now I'm back in the UK. Turkan was very pleasant but said she was struggling to pay all the costs of her new salon. Whilst I totally sympathise, and she's working very long hours, .I was very surprised at the charges. Manicure and pedicure (shellac) plus hair colour and cut - 'discounted' at 460TL. Not sure I will go back.
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Wow! 460TL seems very steep and on par with UK prices almost!! Did she say what the undiscounted costing was??!! Understandable that she needs to now recoup the money she has spent on getting the salon up and running but prices like that will do her no favours. I use Gok & Ay in Calis main street next to Gunisiks, admittedly I have not had her colour my hair for a while (nothing to do with their skills etc, more to do with lack of free time to go sit in a salon and be pampered :( & so just colour it myself) but I'm sure I only used to pay around 80-90TL for hair cut/colour. I went in this week for a fringe trim 5TL.
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That's why I put it on here really as I had expected a more 'Turkish' price! She took off about 10TL I think for doing both hands and feet in shellac. I don't want to be horrible to her but did feel that I should give people here a bit of a warning. There was an elderly Turkish woman leaving before me though and I can't believe she was charged on that scale! I had a hair cut and colour in Fethiye last year and, from memory, it was the equivalent of about £30. Can't remember the exchange rate then but would suggest I only paid about 100TL, similar to your price quoted Devindazzle.
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So sorry Wendy A ,you had that experience and yes you were totally ripped off, I have my hair done at San in Fethiye, next to the Mulberry Tree,I have base colour, , highlights ,cut & blow 130 Lira.
I think some regular customers who frequent the hairdressers you mentioned should have a word with her about what she charged you, will do herself no favours, just hope it hasn't put you off having your hair done again in Turkey, it's sad that only a minority see an opportunity to rip off tourists,
Don't let this experience put you off in the future
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Wow, what a total rip off. I hate to see tourists being overcharged like this. However, this lady does not realise the power of CBF.
We always go to Goldfinger in Ovacik. Last month I got a manicure, gel and shellac on nails, pedicure, wash and blow dry. Phil got manicure and pedicure. It cost us £80.00. We went twice this trip at the beginning and end of our holiday. The last visit as it was our Anniversary, Bayram told me I was a getting make-up on the house. It was lovely reallly enjoyed it. Phil always gets a back massage as the girl there is a trained Masseuse and he always says his back feels great after her treatment, he got his massage on our second visit. We have been using Goldfinger for 4 years now and it does cost more than some other places but we always think it is well worth it. A totall profession but very friendly Salon. The two male hairdressers are equally as good and take great pains to give you the hairstyle you want. I always love the way they do my hair. ;D :)
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Wendy, you were definitely "overcharged". I've been using Best now in Tasyaka from the time they were opposite the entrance to Umbrella Street. 130tl for colour, cut & blowdry + 45tl for manicure & pedicure (non Shellac).
Reminds me of the barber's opposite the 3C's shop, who vastly overcharged someone for a shave & haircut last season - guess what they are now gone!
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Yes you were totally ripped off..
Cihan is about 150tl for 3 colour lowlights cut & blow.
I dont know shellac prices but would assume 100tl top wack for hands & feet.
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Well folks, hopefully this has spread the message! As ai said I don't want to be unpleasant and I realise she is trying to establish herself but, if she is going to rip off people then I feel the news does need to be spread. As the cost would probably have been more in the UK I could have stomached it better had I been really pleased with the results. However she has made me far too blonde and I am going to have to pay a UK hairdresser next week on top of this to bring it down a bit or the roots will look awful. She seems to have cut it pretty well but, again, took far more than I asked off - so, maybe choose a different hairdressers to go to. (BTW she said she was the only English speaking hairdresser in Calis, so perhaps she thinks this helps her to inflate her prices.) ☹️
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Hi Wendy, sorry to here you were charged so much but don't you think you should of questioned the price at the time with Turkan before awakening the hornets on here who haven't been to this hairdresser & who beleive one bad experience must be a regular occurrence & seem to think power of CBF is enough to effect trade on one person's experience, I know my wife had her hair cut/coloured/roots, threading & I had a pedicure at the same time which all altogether came to about 150TL,
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We need to ask the price of everything first, every time, in Turkey.
But is it acceptable to charge an extortionate amount, because the person didn't ask the price first?
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Just so you know, this topic has appeared on the Facebook Fethiye expats group - and your hairdresser says you have never been there
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Oh dear - that makes me cross now. I was not trying to be unpleasant, as I have stated in reading my posts. I was just asking others to be aware, do what I didn't and ask the price first, as Scunner suggests. To deny my visit and claim she hadn't charged that price is rather damning, I'm afraid. She obviously realises it was inappropriate and cannot justify those charges, which shows she did overcharge me. I would rather her prices were too high than to have been ripped off!
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WendyA
Don't fret - I have had a similar (if not worse) reaction for someone in Turkey who we thought was a friend.
It seems to be a Turkish trait in at least some locals. :(
Would it be appropriate to invite the hairdresser on here via facebook.
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It's a pity she did not show Wendy the price list she is going to share. As someone classed as a hornet. I am glad I have been warned about this place and the fact only locals do not face being ripped off.
Yes CBF does have power. I have learned that over about 10 years. Word spreads very quickly.
Obviously, this woman should apologise and offer a refund, but like a lot of people caught out, she is now calling her customer a liar. Bad move.
Wendy, if you are over anything when we are, we will gladly give you a lift up to Goldfinger.
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Thanks very much, Jacqui. ????
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I get a day to myself every holiday as the good lady and 2x teenagers go to Ayten (?) at the Wella place in Gunlukbasi. Many years, no dramas, everyone comes back happy
That's all I know on this subject :)
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I still dont see how one person's bad experience gives the right for everyone to chip in, like the Bella mama post on here with about 3 moans against but several saying it's still a great place to eat, the price WendyA was charged is Well over the top & I'm sure there's some porkys being told about not being in the salon but it seems some like a good old moan when they havent even been there, if there was another bad experience like this or even by someone chipping in fair enough.
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The Yabanci pricing system is a disgusting way of life to some in Turkey, and this forum is one of the few ways we
have of warning each other about those that practice it. I see it as these traders saying " If you come to my country
I will overcharge you for coming here." :(
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I still dont see how one person's bad experience gives the right for everyone to chip in
It could be explained in some small way by pointing out this is a discussion forum
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I wasnt going to chip in but I had a bad experience there too.
So just to show it's not just one I'm commenting.
I got my money back.
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As the lady owner is now calling Wendy a liar. I think this discussion Forum will now make a judgement on this Salon and it's owner. :-X :o >:(
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I think it's clear from Wendy's post that she was reluctant to to share this, well you did the right thing Wendy and we're all behind you. 8)
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Yes indeed - sly trick to make up a list of treatments after the event to try and justify.
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Thanks for the support. The discussion has been on going on the Fethiye Expat page today. For those who haven't seen it Turrkan has now produced a hand written bill (with my name on it) for 460TL. However she claims I had other treatments in addition to those I stated to 'explain her charges'.. I didn't!
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She claims you had all those other treatments
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Claims you have never visited her salon
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Yes, I think that says it all! ????
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Sadly, a familiar tale.
The difference this time is that she's been found out and has lost the chance of potential business via CBF, lost the chance of business via a local Facebook group and made herself look pretty stupid all for the sake of 2/300 lira.
Maybe now we know why she's struggling, no foreigners ever go back after being overcharged by a considerable amount.
JF
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Thanks for the support. The discussion has been on going on the Fethiye Expat page today. For those who haven't seen it Turrkan has now produced a hand written bill (with my name on it) for 460TL. However she claims I had other treatments in addition to those I stated to 'explain her charges'.. I didn't!
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Can't see where the discount is on that so called bill !!!
You've taken a bit of stick from the ex pat forum today especially from a few so called " men ", sometimes people don't like to hear the truth or be found out .
I see other people had also been overcharged but she gave them money back and asked them not to say anything.
As for the women who said they wish all they had to do was worry about their hair and nails, I suppose they must stand out like a sore thumb.
Glad you shared this topic Wendy, I guess she will be a bit more careful next time she tries to rack up a bill of an honest person.
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Thanks Fernando - there are 4 treatments I didn't have on this bill so I think that alone says a few things! As I have said, I don't want to ruin Turkan's business but if she realises that being dishonest doesn't pay her in the long term, then, hopefully, she has learnt a salutory lesson!
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There were some really bitchy comments seen - hope you feel well supported here Wendy as you aren't the one in the wrong.
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Thanks Bluwise. It was those on the Fethiye Expat Zone that had a real go, but they've closed the post down now, so no more! Good luck to you all where you choose to have your hair done, but I won't be going back there - and I'm sure Turkan wouldn't want me, either!! ????
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Good for You Wendy. I saw some of the nasty comments, really awful for you, but by posting this rip-off you will have saved many people loads of dosh, and the misery of a 'bad' hair do.
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As for the women who said they wish all they had to do was worry about their hair and nails, I suppose they must stand out like a sore thumb.
Remembering also that no part of the tale was about Wendy worrying about her hair and nails...
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I had my eyes opened when I read that ex-pats F.B. Page. It woud put people off living in the area reading the posts from these people. Some really nasty comments. Seems if you are an ex-pat who gets their hair done by this woman, anyone speaking against her is immediately castigated.
So glad that THIS Forum believes and sympathises with Wendy.
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Strange thing is Jacqui that many of them know nothing about her but were still defending her actions and denigrating me! Thanks for the support! :)
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I'm rather pleased they are Ex Pats. Turkey is welcome to the sad sods. :)
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I'm very grateful for people sharing their experiences with business people in my local area - be it here in Fethiye or in my hometown of Sheffield.
Be they good or bad experiences it helps me make an informed choice.
So thank you, Wendy and I'm sorry that others were less grateful on the Fethiye Expat page.
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Except when it happens to them and then they view it entirely differently
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I have just looked on a recommended place in Hisaronu and the price would be more than Wendy A paid. I really don't see that anybody had benn ripped off. For example the place in Hisaronu is £38 for full high lights Turkan is less.
Can somebody please explain?
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The point was Nick, that to 'justify' her costs she put a bill up here that claimed 4 additional treatments. She 'offered' to do my nails whilst waiting for my highlights to be done. I went in for highlights and a cut but the overall bill was 460TL. I thought it was pricey but it seems she added alot to my bill thinking she could get away with it.
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I have just looked on a recommended place in Hisaronu and the price would be more than Wendy A paid. I really don't see that anybody had benn ripped off. For example the place in Hisaronu is £38 for full high lights Turkan is less.
Can somebody please explain?
Yes
Finding a more expensive place doesn't change anything
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Scunner, what does it not change? I am just trying to find out how Wendy was ripped off?
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Read the topic then
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I have. There are only two people who knows what happened - Turkan and Wendy. However, the original post from Wendy suggested that she thought she was overcharged, which appeared she wasn't. So what now is the problem?
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the original post from Wendy suggested that she thought she was overcharged, which appeared she wasn't.
Appears she wasn't overcharged even though the 'evidence' put up included loads of stuff she didn't have, until the rip off value was reached - seriously do you honestly believe she wasn't overcharged???!!
Well let me talk you through it in a parallel situation
Wendy wants to buy a car
Your Hisaronu example advertises a car at a certain price, sells her the car and Wendy reflects that it was really expensive for the car.
Your example vendor says that is the price, it was clearly and universally advertised, you fool for agreeing to it if you think it is too much.
In this example, Wendy goes in to buy a car and expects a fair price. Later, she reflects that it was really expensive for the car.
In our example, the dealer says this is nonsense, they have never sold a car to Wendy.
Then they say they did, and produce a receipt which suggests Wendy bought a car, and a quad bike, and a set of tyres, and an air freshener.
Both examples prey on the human trait of trust that they will be treated fairly - I suppose the difference is that you looked at the Hisaronu place and found details on the pricing - well that's what you said anyway.
The idea that people who trust that the price will be fair, then become fair game to overcharge is repulsive - can you disagree with that?
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I get all that. But what are the extras that Turkan has added on. Do you know? Turkan knows what she did, Wendy knows what she had done. Nobody else does.
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In short, Wendy doesn't have a record for crying wolf...the hairdresser has had to refund a number of overcharged people. Not a specific science but I think I know where the truth is on this one.
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I get all that. But what are the extras that Turkan has added on. Do you know? Turkan knows what she did, Wendy knows what she had done. Nobody else does.
p.s. Including you
Two posts ago you posted conclusively to say it appears she hadn't been overcharged. But you don't know that.
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Yes correct. That is my whole point.
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Your whole point is that you believe she was not overcharged but the rest of us don't know what happened?
Move on Nick :D
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Nick !! , as Scunner suggested read the whole thread and since when has £ 38 been more than 460 Lira ??
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Correct
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My whole point is I do not know if she was overcharged and neither does anybody else . Also I do not know what happened and neither does anybody else (apart from Wendy and Turkan)
Moving on now
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Ultimately if you want to go down the "nobody knows" route that is fine, so let's play that through...
One of two things happened.
1. Wendy went and had a whole rake of stuff done, paid 460 lira for it all then later decided it was too much and posted on CBF to pretend she only had a hairdo and none of the other stuff for her 460 lira.
2. She got ripped off for a hairdo and when it went public someone put a list of stuff together to get to the total the 460 lira
But you are right Nick, nobody knows what happened :o
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If you read my post full high lights is £38 in Hisaronu and 150tl in Turkan. I will leave you to do the maths.
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460 for Wendy
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Yes but not just a cut and blow dry.
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Not for much of what was on the "bill" at all in fairness
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I wonder is Nick11 The newly registered member really in the know as to what happened? . There are posts quoting that Turkan does not charge this much for the treatments Wendy had. Ladies giving prices they have paid. Also, Wendy did state what treatments she had. Then Turkan said she had never been to her place, then next day Turkan produced a bill with treatments Wendy had, even though the day before she could not remember her.
I know who I believe and I think most on this Forum believe her as a long standing and trusted member.
A mystery Salon in Hisaronu who print their prices cannot be compared to this Salon who do not.
Nick you need to go and read the post on the ex-pat Forum which say this lady does not charge these prices and the members of the ex-pat pay much less. They are actually suggesting Wendy should have asked the prices first, obviously, to avoid being ripped off.
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I am more than happy with people disagreeing with me, that is is the whole point of a discussion forum. But Jacqui I am not a newly registered member and even if I was, my input should surely carry the same weight as anybody else's. if not the whole point of CBF is devalued.
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The newly registered member....
Totally irrelevant and besides member for 5 years.
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Sorry, but what does it say under your avatar ... Newly Registered. ???
My mistake..
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Right this has been played out on Facebook for the last few days, and comments from one person on here also commenting strongly on Facebook as always! She doesn't even go in the shop but comments about everyone and everything.
There Are people getting involved who have never been into this shop or ever had a haircut here but are happy to have an opion! also I have been into the shop today as I do use this lady for colour and cuts and other beauty regimes, apparently a friend of the lady also went in today and said why didn't she say something before heading back to England and posting it on here and letting others post it on Facebook! Also there is a price list up and always has been in English and Turkish. Please stop accusing unless you know the full story!!! We don't all have to agree but sometimes let's just be grown ups it's a bit like how do we like our gin and tonics presented again not all the same way!!
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It's like we don't all like our gin and tonics presented in the same way?
Like somewhere there are some people who like to be overcharged and be told they had other treatments they hadn't had?
I don't get it, sorry.
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Actually, for the record...
Wendy didn't come here to slate or complain about the salon - she returned to give feedback as she had previously asked for recommendations on here. She reported no ripoff, just mixed feelings in regard to what she was charged, for what she had done.
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Permanent wave coming soonish?
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Beehive Frank
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You can all crawl out of the woodwork to defend this business, but the bottom line is that a CBF member got ripped off and the business owner is now in damage limitation mode. Keith has far more restrain than I do, so for the time being I will restrict my response to saying that I agree with his analysis of the situation.
JF
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It's true that, as Scummer says, if you read the posts of mine on the first page I was just giving feedback and this has all got very out of hand. I have had quite a lot of abuse when all I was doing was warning people that I thought - and still do, that 460 TL is a lot of money in Calis for highlights, a cut and shellac nails with manicure and pedicure. I paid up having seen Turkan itemise it on a pencil written list. I didn't complain as I assumed she had written the costs down accurately - I had no reason to mistrust her and just thought her prices high (and no, I hadn't asked for the hair prices, although, as she had suggested the nails I asked for those and she said she would knock 10TL off for both). I didn't query it as I showed trust. When I returned to England I just added the warning as to her costs onto the post I had started asking where the salon was. She shot herself in the foot then by pretending that she had my bill (now written in biro) with 4 additional treatments on it, coming to the same 460T (but no 10TL discount!).
Those of you who have been charged less should appreciate that I have been ripped off and support me in this. I didn't go back and complain and didn't try to run her down at all but she has subsequently shown that she is capable of not only inflating my charges but also trying to cover up these with her fake bill and so I am now much less trusting of her. Those who frequent her salon or may do in the future should just be aware of this. I assure you Nick11 that you may not have any other side to the story but I would have thought that the person most believable on here has to be me if you take all this into consideration. However - yours' and everyone else's choice!
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I honestly cant believe all the fuss about some one giving there honest opinion on a service that they have had Wendy went and had her hair done came out not to impressed with whats been done thought it was a bit over priced and gave a review how many people have done this after a meal, I would ignore most of what the expat community have to say anyway these are the same people who complain when they are charged the same price as tourists for there effes
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Thanks, Trainer - I'll say no more now, but in defence of myself after a pm this morning, I did not go back
and complain to this 'lovely professional lady' as I falsely assumed (it would appear subsequently) that she'd not ripped me off but was just expensive. I also had to leave Turkey very promptly as my 90 year old father had to have a heart operation. It isn't nice, and completely pointless, where people accuse me of lying. Why ever would I?
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What do you mean get charged same price as tourists..you mean you should get it cheaper if you live here...watch this space.. I,'ll be taking this up with a few of my local establishments 8) ;D ;D : :)
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Not cheaper, just not as much more ;)
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Over the years that I have been coming to Calis I have seen a lot of things but on more than one occasion I have heard expats say "you do know we live here" when checking there bill
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You could see some of them with it actually printed on their t shirts in the markets
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EPKH. ?? :o
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When I asked they said they would be grateful for me to actually pay a bill as anything ex Pat,tourist, Turk ;D ;D : :) : :) ;D ;)