New visa rules have re-started again!!!

[Julesp]

Its not so much the people who want to stay longer than the 90 days, theyve always supposed to obtain residency by law to do this, it affects more the people who come out a few times a year. the headache of working out when the visa expires and how many days theyve already used up, that coupled with the shortage of flights or changes to flights as here in this topic  

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just hope if they do implicate this new visa rule that nobody is too badly affected

[col]

We were all aware that the changes to the visa laws were on hold. But as I remember from a few months ago, reports said that 'notice would be given' before the changes come into effect. IF these changes came into force on Nov 1st, that's not giving people notice....not that should surprise anyone with how the Turkish govt works. So again, for the moment, it seems to be case of 'wait and see' till something becomes official.  Then hope that whatever was decided on Nov 1st, was just a case of more talk about it, and a decent spell of notice will finally be given.

[Ian]

Well said Colin  

quote:Originally posted by col

We were all aware that the changes to the visa laws were on hold. But as I remember from a few months ago, reports said that 'notice would be given' before the changes come into effect. IF these changes came into force on Nov 1st, that's not giving people notice....not that should surprise anyone with how the Turkish govt works. So again, for the moment, it seems to be case of 'wait and see' till something becomes official.  Then hope that whatever was decided on Nov 1st, was just a case of more talk about it, and a decent spell of notice will finally be given.

[stoop]

quote:Originally posted by col

We were all aware that the changes to the visa laws were on hold. But as I remember from a few months ago, reports said that 'notice would be given' before the changes come into effect. IF these changes came into force on Nov 1st, that's not giving people notice....not that should surprise anyone with how the Turkish govt works. So again, for the moment, it seems to be case of 'wait and see' till something becomes official.  Then hope that whatever was decided on Nov 1st, was just a case of more talk about it, and a decent spell of notice will finally be given.

A good point and it's made by the report from the British Embassy. However it also implies that it's going to happen later this year (or at least a decision and notification):

"The Foreign Ministry and UK officials will hold talks in the autumn on the question of visas and residence permits. The Ministry confirmed that any future change in procedures will be announced in good time before implementation to allow people to make their decisions and arrangements."

http://ukinturkey.fco.gov.uk/en/help-for-british-nationals/living-in-turkey/visitors-who-overstay


However there is the usual disclaimer at the bottom of the page.

[stoop]

quote:Originally posted by lewis.wensley

if this rule does come into effect then the problem i see is that those who are NOT living in Turkey "full time" but wish to stay "longer" than 90 days.... (extended holiday)... then there doesnt seem to be anything in place for them....
as they are not resident, neither are they a "tourist"......

Quite right. This change (if it happens) will affect those like ourselves who have always intended to use their properties more when they retire fully from work.

Our intention was to go May/June and then Sept/Oct but this would mean (roughly) 120 days in 180 which would not be allowed. Turkey will lose our money for 4 weeks in that case and if you multiply that by the number of people in the same position it will mean a lot of dosh. It might also make us think about selling up to be honest as the hassle involved, coupled with the cost of flights etc etc might just tip us over the edge. I suppose we could just do the 3 months straight off but it's the removal of the choice that annoys me most.

If we lived there full time then having to pay for residency would at least allow us to come and go as we please but for the home owners who wants to enjoy their properties a little more but not live there permanently then it's bad news.

[c1]

Do the turkish government see that that much of the cash any way, what with few if any resturants etc paying full taxes and most deals are done in cash. the locals might feel the pinch but what government worries about the locals. would the visa not work out for you if you came out May /june say 60 days one one visa then Sept /Oct another 60 odd days on another visa, you wouldn't be over staying on either.

[starman™]

I would say that the goverment gets most of it taxes from petrol then anything else. Just look at the price, 3.7 lira for a litre.

[hillside]

quote:

Quite right. This change (if it happens) will affect those like ourselves who have always intended to use their properties more when they retire fully from work.

Our intention was to go May/June and then Sept/Oct but this would mean (roughly) 120 days in 180 which would not be allowed.

This would be our intention too. Our solution would be to take a cheap overnight flight to Istanbul in Feb to cover us Feb-Aug and then re-enter on a new visa in September. Its a solution but when we invested our savings in Turkey and purchased the property we didnt expect to have to deal with these kind of restrictions:(

[starman™]

Its not much different then the restrictions on tourist visas EU countries give to non EU nationals.

[Scunner]

It's certainly different to those given by the UK to non-EU nationals. Their visas are for a given length of time, not a maximum amount of time within a given amount of time.