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Title: What does it mean?
Post by: tribalelder on May 24, 2010, 08:02:49 AM

I have been reading a novel a part of which is set in Turkey. I came across this single word "Ayril" (Undotted i) It could possibly be Kurdish in the context of the novel. In Turkish the only translation I can find is Separate or disjointed which does not make sense in the scenario. It may also be a swearword but again I cannot find a translation. Bit of a long shot but any ideas[?]

Title: What does it mean?
Post by: philrose on May 24, 2010, 09:02:21 AM

According to this translator
http://www.stars21.com/translator/turkish_to_english.html
It means 'sobering'

Title: What does it mean?
Post by: Scunner on May 24, 2010, 09:08:25 AM

Is it Turkish for washing powder :D

Title: What does it mean?
Post by: tribalelder on May 24, 2010, 13:12:22 PM

Phil sobering is "Ayilma" whereas this word is Ayril.  Turkish dictionaries vary so much in their translation it is surprising we ever get anything right!  I have found another dictionary which quotes the word among about 12 possibilities as "leave or Get off" This could be right in the context of the situation. :)

Title: What does it mean?
Post by: tribalelder on May 24, 2010, 13:17:05 PM

Keith I hardly think a Turk /Kurd in Diyarbakir is going to say to an American who has just pi**ed him off "Washing Powder" but I like your reasoning!:D 8)

Title: What does it mean?
Post by: number2 on May 24, 2010, 18:09:36 PM

In the dictionary i have the closest i found is ayrilic, meaning lack of accord, dissent, disagreement, legal seperation. Alan

Title: What does it mean?
Post by: sunnyd on May 24, 2010, 18:57:26 PM

The verb ayril(mak) (i without the dot) means to part, separate from one another

Title: What does it mean?
Post by: sunnyd on May 24, 2010, 18:58:25 PM

Tribalelder, what is the book that you are reading?

Title: What does it mean?
Post by: kanga on May 24, 2010, 19:18:38 PM

Persil or Ayril that is the question ?
, By  l. g . Arriston

Title: What does it mean?
Post by: Julesp on May 24, 2010, 22:39:32 PM

Apparently as far as i can understand  It means to be advised to leave.

Title: What does it mean?
Post by: tribalelder on May 25, 2010, 05:07:34 AM

Thanks for all your ideas guys.....I think we have just about got the answer to this one now. It really does prove that a straight word for word translation does have so many different meanings that it becomes difficult to choose the right one :)

Title: What does it mean?
Post by: tribalelder on May 25, 2010, 05:21:05 AM

Sunnyd....The book is called "The Eighth Day" by John Case. It is described as a thriller of unrelenting suspense,religious prophecy,cutting edge science and international intrigue. I found the parts set in Istanbul which I had seen myself and the far east of Turkey were very absorbing and in general an interesting book. :)