Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Calis Beach Forum => Expat & Property Owners Q and A Forum => Topic started by: Jan-Jeff on February 06, 2013, 18:10:48 PM
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Not sure if this is the right subject, sorry Keith if its not! Listen up people, a big word of warning here...
Having been told by this particular emlak/estate agent, that "nobody reads the Calis Forum anyway", he will not have anything to worry about when I post a warning about him here :-) An English agent who works for Let's Sell Properties, has been "helping" us with finding a tenant to rent our villa, until such time as it is sold.
He did find us a tenant, a very nice lady, who has been unwittingly propelled into the mire left behind by the recently-departed tenants, whom we found privately. The English agent agreed with us, (in fact, he offered) on receipt of his fee, one month's equivalent rent, that he would check the villa and ensure that all bills left owed by the leaving tenants were paid, before he released any monies held by us to the leaving tenant. This he failed to do, giving the final amount, £600 to the leaving tenant, without waiting until all bills were paid. Resulting in a large Digiturk bill for over 200 TL arriving, as the former tenant had not paid a lira of it since October '12 until they left on 20th January this year! The Digiturk was left running in our name (mistake..) to convenience the tenant, as he said he wanted it left on, and would pay the monthly bill for Digiturk. This was also in the Tenancy Agreement which he signed. However, now the ex-tenant refuses to pay the final bill. It looks like it will be down to us as the owners, to settle it, awkward, as we are in the UK for some months yet.
We feel that the agent failed in his agreement/duty, to us, his clients, by not checking the bills were settled before refunding all monies back to the old tenants. He does not accept responsilbility...so my warning is not to get involved with him..a pleasant enough chap, but totally without conscience over this. He even suggested we ignore the bill, as he said "many other people do when they move back to the UK..."well, we are not all as lacking in scruples as this chap as I told him. And what happens to us when and if we decide to come back to Turkey, and want Digiturk re-instated? He still fails to take responsibility for his lack of action, and says that "whatever he does will not be enough"...!
Wrong, B, it would have been just fine had you done your job professionally! Makes us feel that all he was really interested in was getting his hands on the deposit from us and the new tenant, who he found to take the place - good riddance - of the departing tenants. My advice is to not trust this agent to look after your interests as he promises. We've had to email and email about this, and for him to do anything at all about it, such as try to get the ex-tenants to pay up, but they refuse.
He did not do, for us! Be warned! A link to the Turkish Living Forum, where the same topic is posted, with other comments, is at the end of this post.
Oh, by the way, B has been sending me snippets of a conversation between him and Scunner, on the Buy Sell or Rent Facebook site here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/219783928116987/ regarding this topic, where he uses a different surname to that he used with us! Since I pointed out to B that he was using another surname than the one he used with us, I have not heard back from him - strange! :-). Here is the link to this topic on the TLF Forum:- http://www.turkishliving.com/forums/estate-agents-necessary-evil/65678-let-s-not-sell-properties-calis-2.html
Happy reading! And be warned, be very warned..
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You might want to add some paragraphs to make this easier to read
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Ah, the old lowlife of Calis Colmoor - Brian James Chambers banned from CBF long since. He is a long term conman (I should say at this point if there is anything he disputes in this post he should sue me) - where were we...conman, thief, scrounger, liar, and working entirely illegally in Turkey - often claiming to be a partner in, or working for, companies in real estate/rentals which he is not. One actually didn't even know who he was.
I am told he specifically targets British ladies who are looking for somewhere to live - some contacted me when I spoke up about his antics on Facebook yesterday and have been threatened, bullied, shouted at and verbally abused. Sadly the ladies concerned will not go public but told me their tale, and it is literally inhumane the way he treats a human being. It may be because he is on the fringes of the species himself.
To forewarn anyone looking to rent - Brian Chambers AKA Brian James AKA Barry James AKA Brian Errington AKA who knows - working in the Calis Beach - Fethiye - Ovacik areas - intimidates, steals and threatens people. Not men though.
This is from another forum - please make a mental note of this man (sorry if you are eating). Warn your friends to find someone else.
(http://www.calis-beach.co.uk/forum1.jpg)
To reiterate, if he disputes any word of the above, let's go to court.
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Further mugshots
(http://www.calis-beach.co.uk/colmoor2.jpg)
He told Jeff & Jan to post about him on CBF as "nobody reads the Calis forum anyway".
I think they do :)
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You might want to add some paragraphs to make this easier to read
Ok here it is divided up into sections, I hope its easier to digest!
Cheers
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Also well known in the Methodist circles of Calis/Fethiye
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How has this slimeball managed to stay for so long without having his collar felt by the jandarma?
We first heard of him years ago, maybe 2008 ish and it wasn't for his good reputation then, in fact I think he had scammed someone in Fethiye out of a good few thousand.
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Thanks for sharing this. I am aware of him though the Facebook property page but I had no idea he was so dubious. I am trying to help a friend look for a place & I will make sure she goes nowhere near.
Tamzin
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It amazes me that he hasnt been banned on the property pages. He was VERY abusive to a good friend of mine a Turkish teacher here...
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What he does is advertise any properties he can find (not given to him to advertise) then when someone blows the whistle on him he becomes abusive so the FB group admin deletes the topic, and with it the warning - allowing him to carry on his scams. He's been at it for years, I remember from over 5 years ago at least.
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What an obnoxious man, and looking at the pictures I'd say as my old mum used to say, he looks like he could do with a good bath too!!
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OMG I have seen this guy on the FB pages but didn't know or realise he was such a scumbag!
He has inboxed me a couple of times asking if he could advertise my place, my answer is always no as I can do it quite well on my own.
He should be slung out of the country!!
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More than obnoxious - he is working illegally, often using the name of a perfectly reputable company that he doesn't own or work for, using many different names for himself and threatening people, often single ladies. It is because of the many aliases that I decided to post the photos - you couldn't change a face like that (not without a baseball bat anyway).
I am in possession of print offs and screenshots of his activities and threats - and people who know me know that if I say I have them, then I have them. The ladies who passed them to me will not go public, and I have tried to get them to - but they are feeling vulnerable and worried about the backlash.
This, as a result of a dream - to rent a place in the sun and start a new life - sickens me.
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Like most people I 'know' this man from some of the FB pages and he has always irritated me, but I did not know what he was like until reading this today. Thanks for the info and warning. What a nasty man.
It also really p+++++ me off when people work here illegally - really not okay. Can't he be reported to whoever illegal workers are reported to and deported? Or is it not that simple :( ?
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CBF helped to get the dolphins freed and a local school completely refurbished so delivering a cheating scumbag into the hands of the authorities should be a breeze compared to those two great achievements.
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Never met this guy but he was very threatening to a good Turkish friend of mine which, if he his working illegally seems a totally stupid thing to do.
I have seen postings on various sites and boards challenging him to come clean about his legality and he has always dodged the issue. Eventually his postings become so rude that the admins are forced to delete the complete thread which is obviously what he wanted.
Overall, if I were buying or selling I would give this guy a wide berth. After all "There is no smoke without Fire" and this guy has certainly created a huge amount of smoke.
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Following his failure to provide the Facebook group admins with any evidence of a work permit or legal right to work, he has been removed from the group. My understanding is that the group is for individuals looking to buy or rent a property, and for individuals who want to rent out/sell their property.
He had dozens on there.
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I have property for sale in the Fethiye/Calis area, Oh, how I do wish that this scum sucking bas*$rd would walk up my driveway with an unsuspecting prospective client. Please, Please do it !!
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Further mugshots
(http://www.calis-beach.co.uk/colmoor2.jpg)
He told Jeff & Jan to post about him on CBF as "nobody reads the Calis forum anyway".
I think they do :)
Yuck he looks like a real creep & not dissimilar to that other creep in Fethiye, the Money Exchange bloke. Could they be related?
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He does look a bit like him, but I'm not sure the other guy is English? Maybe German or something?
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It's a gene
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About time for a well placed E-mail to my very good friend Mustafa, undercover police sergeant in the Serious Crime Polis in Fethiye, Methinks. ;)
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Please share this on Facebook if you have friends and family who holiday in Turkey. In case you are unsure - all you need to do is click the blue/white facebook F logo below under the blue "Share Me" bar.
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Shared this a couple of days ago. Had a few comments already..There would be more than a few if they heard the real rumours.
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real rumours?
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I would imagine that there are false rumours, true rumours, & REAL rumours, i.e. rumours that have really been made. I think !! ;)
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Too late The rumours have already been posted on Facebook Fethiye Ex Pats... within the last ten minutes...
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I have long known what the rumours are and I plead with CBF members not to post them on here.
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(http://s7.postimage.org/977xtkot3/Brian_Brian.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
He is still on facebook.he has his own group callled "property sales and rentals mugla turkey".He has changed his name and picture profile.This is his new profile pic and his name is Brian Brian.I met him last year and he lives in sun valley apartments.
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Yet another new set up? https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100005252973500&fref=nf_fr
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On facebook he has changed "from being single" to "in a relationship" and also changed his current location to Portsmouth.Pretty obvious he is trying to give people the slip but he must think we are all stupid.
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Each time he opens up a new "Shop" we should bombard it with warning messages
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Due to the never ending list of names and aliases this man uses, and constantly moving premises (well, from kebap salon to cafe) the only thing we have that we know is correct and accurate are the photographs. On Facebook, CBF users have hundreds, maybe thousands of people in all their lists with a connection to Fethiye, many of which do not know the FB groups or even CBF.
It is for that reason that the best way to stop this repulsive scammer is to share the photograph on Facebook. Then he can call himself any name he likes. Please, if you haven't shared it yet please do and ask your FB friends to share it on...
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closed groups too...
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Brian James now advertising on this site now.http://www.propertyandturkey.com/property/apartment-for-sale-in-calis-beach-fethiye-0lfcs.php.
Lets keep forcing him further away.
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over 289 people in first day, thank you cbf. www.propertyandturkey.com
Cheeky git
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In fairness Yusuf is unlikely to know that the advert were added by this conman, or perhaps even who he is. It's his website to run as he wishes, but I will be asking him to consider removing properties added by this bully and threatener of women, who also works illegally in Turkey.
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Hello,
WOWWWWW, what has been going on. Just to clarify as owner of www.propertyandturkey.com , which is the first and only property portal of Turkey in English, it is free to register and list properties for both estate agents and individuals. I dont have any business relation ship with any of the companies nor individuals listing their properties there.The only exception is where I list my family hotels rooms in oludeniz (Lycian Dreams) with Turkish properties Abroad company which is my registered company in UK.
Thank you very much for your warnings and I really will consider and be carefull of it, but same as there are many dodgy estate agents list properties in rightmove , no body would sue rightmove. And I am trying to make my website to be the rightmove of Turkey (but free ,instead of paying 600 pounds per year)
As it is a very unique situation I really dont have much idea either stop him adding properties or not do anything. because the next day if he registers with different company and different name I would not know. I believe as in every business transaction it is down to individuals to take the necessary steps and cautions.
Thank You
Yusuf
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....and I could see, and have seen google, right move, Facebook and lots of others using that excuse as well.
The problem is, you DO now know and therefore the onus is on you to do something about it for the properties currently listed.
Of course you cannot stop new things being added under a different identity (or could you? - see checkatrade.com) but I'm sure others may spot it and let you know
I'm not convinced that the argument of 'I didn't know, so what could I do' for these kind of events where you then don't investigate would be accepted as a reasonable excuse.
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hi steve,
i dont defend neither would not defend anyway but what my point is i have over 900 properties from over 80 agents and over 100 individuals listing there free, and i dont have time nor resources to check each one of them. if i delete all his properties now , i would not know tomorrow if he or someone else register again those properties. so yes i see the point but it is down to individuals again to be carefull.
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I agree with you in the argument that it is very difficult for you to know it is happening.
The problem is, you DO KNOW, or at least have been informed it is happening so you need to act.
Lets look at it a different way, lets say he commits a criminal act with a person that has contacted him through your site......he takes their money, defrauds them...or worse. The victim then finds out you were warned about him....what will happen?
If I was you I would be contacting him and asking for proof of a right to work, run a business etc.
Up to you, but having ran several large, across border, multi country websites myself for over 15yrs I would want to make sure my hands are clean
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Hello,
which is the first and only property portal of Turkey in English
http://www.homeinturkey.com ?
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No H, that is a developers website and his is a free for anyone to list facility.
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I stand corrected - my apologies ytokguz.
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No worries highlander, would you like to or is there anybody here would like to write an article about anything related to turkey( like experiences etc) so I can post it on the site? Any volunteers to add more value to the site so other people like you can read your blog, articles?
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It really is a tough one and I am at the forefront of those who think life would be better for many people if Brian James was removed from Turkey. But as a website administrator myself I sympathise with Yusuf to a degree. I hate it when people talk about how "CBF's opinion" on a subject is negative or critical - CBF has never had one opinion in the entire 10 years of it's life.
We provide a shop window for others to stick their postcard on, we don't (as websites) have any postcards of our own.
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No worries highlander, would you like to or is there anybody here would like to write an article about anything related to turkey( like experiences etc) so I can post it on the site? Any volunteers to add more value to the site so other people like you can read your blog, articles?
Thank you ytokgoz.
I only know about Calis not Turkey as a whole and for that reason I will write on Calis Beach Forum.
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Brian James has been keeping a low profile for a few weeks but just noticed he his back advertising on http://www.propertyandturkey.com/property/house-for-rent-in-fethiye-dwa9j.php.Please be aware.
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He's also back on TLF touting apartments!
Isn't it strange how some stinks can just never be got rid of!
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I have him threatening me with a lawyer because I told someone not to do business with him as he's a con man!
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152765365810243&set=a.10150765832640243.723805.547005242&type=1&theater¬if_t=like (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152765365810243&set=a.10150765832640243.723805.547005242&type=1&theater¬if_t=like)
He's running true to form, won't stand up to any questions a MAN asks but will threaten a woman!
Well bring it on big boy!
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If it did go to court (it won't of course) I can put you in touch with a number of witnesses who will be only too glad to provide unequivocal evidence that he is a conman :D
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Just checked his page on FB - interestingly there are no pictures of him at all. I wonder why?
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I wish I was a bit more savvy with facebook and linking pages etc as with scunner's permission I'd do my own page, link it with the one he's done threatening me and link it with this thread. As I bet he won't let me reply on HIS FB page lol. Bloody coward!
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Still operating in the area - please beware, especially single ladies who are out there looking to rent. He is an illegal worker who tries to separate good people from their cash - and becomes very abusive when they refuse.
(http://www.calis-beach.co.uk/colmoor2.jpg)
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Apparently he is back on the scene again... be warned. Copied from Facebook...
Heads up for anyone considering renting or purchasing in Turkey, this person has been jailed in the past for fraud & is now back on the scene plying his "trade", feel free to be another victim should you so wish! Brian Chambers AKA Brian James AKA Barry James AKA Brian Errington AKA who knows https://www.facebook.com/letsellpropertiesturkey
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Nasty stuff
Despicable
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A more up to date mugshot of Brian Chambers/Brian James/Brian Edrington etc
Turkish prison was obviously not kind to him, although he still looks like a cheating, scheming and horrible waste of oxygen.
He’s all over Facebook groups posting details of properties. There should be a group called “How to lose your life savings in one easy stage”.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190810/d7fb8db4f1215a89cf5f6a27ee9d553a.jpg)
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Just seen I have mutual friends with him - not any longer!
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I've got mutual friends with him too. Useful to keep track of him.
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I've got mutual friends with him too. Useful to keep track of him.
Good point but in my case most of them are quite recent additions not long standing friends. Not taking any chances ;)
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I know what you mean Stoop. ;)