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General Topics => The Debating Chamber => Topic started by: Colwyn on October 14, 2013, 16:59:46 PM
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Gideon {call me "George"} Osborne has today called for British people to stop treating China like a sweatshop. I would be pleased if Osborne and his posh little Tory chums would stop treating Britain like a sweatshop. Longer hours, with higher workload, for more years - that's their policy for British people.
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I seem to remember my retirement age went up under the last lot in power.
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And I seem to remember my pension fund dropping dramatically under the last lot.
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And I seem to remember my pension fund dropping dramatically under the last lot.
PAH !!!!!! don't talk to me about pensions. I got 22% of my 'realised losses' from a
15 year private pension scheme with the maladministrated Equitable life.
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And if you want posh listen to Tony Blair speaking. Socialist my a##e.
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Oooh, it's getting like "All Our Yesterdays".
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Aye lad, an times were aaarrrd. :( :(
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Lost yer tongue Colwyn? ;)
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Colwyn I am not sure about the longer hours applying any longer in innovative Britain the land of the Zero Hour contracts.
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I seem to remember my retirement age went up under the last lot in power.
Stoop your confusing the statutory state pension payment age with your own retirement age choice, two different things This is the new economically liberal age in Britain, you can choose to retire when you want, or indeed keep working for as long as you want, that's what choice is all about.
Wot can't afford to retire? or are not fit enough to hold down a a reasonably paying job in your older age ....... tough .... people will have to get used to it.
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And in the immortal words of Cyril 'Smug' Fletcher... "and finally Esther" if we are looking to who to blame for the increased state pension ages - including my own Mrs Tickets who has to wait not for an extra one year Stoop but SIX years for her state pension - I have set out below an excerpt from the Daily Mail's own This is Money.co.uk website - certainly no friend of the 'last lot' - which sets out nicely who and when has been responsible for the bulk of the changes ... thank you Paul Dacre. Words I thought I would never use : :) : :).
The previous Labour government set out plans, based on recommendations from Lord Turner, to steadily increase the state pension age to 68 for both men and women over the next four decades.
The coalition government is set to link the state pension age to life expectancy. This could see it hit 73 for today's 33 year-olds and 77 for those just finishing their A-Levels.
THE PLANNED CHANGES: Moves to 66 and 67
Pension age to hit 66 in 2020 - men AND women affected
In May 2010, the coalition Government said it would speed up the process. In the Comprehensive Spending Review in October 2010 it accelerated the hike to 66 for both men and women to 2020 from Labour's proposed 2026.
Rise to 67 now scheduled for 2026-28
Chancellor George Osborne said the state pension age will start rising to 67 for both men and women in 2026. Gradually, all Britons will be forced to wait an extra year with everyone qualifying at age 67 by April 2028. It will affect millions of people in their late forties and early fifties. The Queen’s Speech in May 2012 confirmed these plans.
BUT... reprieve over dramatic rise for women
For women, the new schedules mean more dramatic rises than had been planned under Labour. It had been expected that the women's state pension age would rise to 65 by 2020. It will now move to 65 by 2018 and then be hiked to 66 (same as men) by 2020.
It provoked anger among around 500,000 women in their fifties who would have had to work up to two years longer.
The worst-hit 33,000 would have to wait two years. Some were in line to lose up to £15,000.
But the Government has offered them a reprieve. It said the maximum wait would be eighteen months rather than two years. It will achieve this by moving back the date at which the pension age hits 66 from April to October 2020.
Link to life expectancy
In the 2012 Budget, George Osborne confirmed that the Government will use an Office for Budget Responsibility report to create a solid link between the state pension age and rising life expectancy. It is likely to see the state pension age rise to 70 and beyond.
Read more: http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/pensions/article-1679780/New-state-pension-age-retire.html#ixzz2hmcpxGpz
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And if you want posh listen to Tony Blair speaking. Socialist my a##e.
Kevin your quite right to observe that Blair is also 'posh' spoken and indeed like many in the current coalition government he is also ex top public school boy and oxbridge graduate ....... but to use the word socialist in any sentence with Tony Blair in it, really is talking through the 'arris ;D ;D ;)
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Colwyn I am not sure about the longer hours applying any longer in innovative Britain the land of the Zero Hour contracts.
Depends how many "mini-jobs" (as the Germans call them) you have to have in order to add up to a living wage. Three? Four? Trouble with "Zero Hours" you don't know in advance just how mini they are going to be.