I personally would like to explain to any new member who has got in this thread and is wondering what the hell is going on.Basically if you care to read the original thread it was a request for info on Ovacik,I made a reply,after a remark by Scunner,that obviously caused a bit of distress with the Calis mutal admiration society.Part of my posting I admitted was excessive,and I modified it,the rest you can obviously read and draw your own conclusions.Scunner has interpreted my remarks as slagging off Calis,but strangely enough in all my postings I have never said that I dislike Calis,I'me quite often down in Calis meeting friends,they find all this quite amusing.There's another topic on the Ovacik forum, New name for Ovacik,or something to that effect,no ones reacted to it in a negative way,I do'nt know if we're supposed to,but myself personally think its light hearted,good for a titter.I've even suggested makeing it,with scunners permission,into a competition.So,basically the threads turned into friendly rivalry between two different areas,well,that's my interpretation of things.