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Title: rip off dentist
Post by: puma on January 12, 2009, 18:22:47 PM
i was reccommended this dentist by neighbours in turkey in aug my front crown cracked and at went to the turkish dentist volkan and he charged me £250.i am still trying to get this back from the insurance after trying to get a reply to my emails from volkan in the end i went to his office when i was over in dec and got a letter saying what treatment he had done ,this was after asking me what he wanted me to write
jan my other crown came out (all the crusty bread )so i went back to volkan who said i had a abcess and he needed to do a root canal,and a bridge to make it stronger,i asked the price and was quoted 976ytl.
i told him to leave it as i did not think my insurance company would pay out again .i would go back to england and see my own dentist and claim the costs off the penny in the pound
so went to the english dentist today all fixed back to normal and the cost of my treatment was £16.20
so beware of some turkish dentists[xx(]



Title: rip off dentist
Post by: ECHOSTAR on January 12, 2009, 22:05:30 PM
I am just Thinking if this is the same dentist my wife uses opposite the yakomos if it is i do find this hard to belive as there are a lot of english people on this forum who use him, how come my wife Ilknur went to him last week with a raging toothache spent ¾ of an hour drilling and cutting the nerves to the tooth, and the injections she had and materials and time and did not charge her a penny

I take it puma that your treatment when you were back in the uk was under national health and not private  and did your dentist in the uk carried out the same work he estimated for as Volkan gave only a estimate for the work he would have carried out and not a bill

anyway i shall show him your post and that you were not happy or better still should you have not gone back to him if this was not the case and said you were not happy[?]
Title: rip off dentist
Post by: Crabbit on January 12, 2009, 22:17:51 PM
quote:
Originally posted by ECHOSTAR

how come my wife Ilknur went to him last week with a raging toothache spent ¾ of an hour drilling and cutting the nerves to the tooth, and the injections she had and materials and time and did not charge her a penny



Because he`d made enough money out of Puma.    8)




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Title: rip off dentist
Post by: puma on January 13, 2009, 11:20:08 AM
echostar yes it is the same dentist i was pleased with the treatment i got first time round and he is a
gent.
some of my treatment is private in england that is why i pay penny in the pound.
but back to volkan who said he could carry out this treatment within 2 days,i did not have time to go back,this was wednesday and i was flying on friday.
and i did tell him it was expensive
he said i had a abcess, i did not
he said i needed root canal, i did not
he said i needed a bridge ,i did not
i mentioned all this to my dentist here in england and he was disgusted that he would have carried out this treatment anyway if i did have a abcess,i think the prices he charges the british is not far off the price of private here in england
mutlu our good friend and the lads from the kismet bar thought his price he quoted me was ott


crabbz you are right he must have seen the mug sign on my forehead :(

Title: rip off dentist
Post by: The Crinklies on January 13, 2009, 12:39:17 PM
Well we use this dentist and I am currently seeing him for treatment. When the cost of my treatment was discussed he told us that every Turkish dentist should be charging the same prices because the prices are set by the government - he showed us the price booklet.
I am happy with the treatment that I have been having and with the price charged. If I was not, I would speak to him about it.
 
As a bonus, he is a friendly, caring person and speaks excellent english. Obviously everyone can only speak as they find but I would not hesitate to recommend him.

Mrs C.

Title: rip off dentist
Post by: caza on January 14, 2009, 20:04:35 PM
please can you tell me where this dentist is as hubby needs some work soon and we need to choose
Title: rip off dentist
Post by: Hazel on January 14, 2009, 20:17:55 PM
Both my husband and myself have had excellent treatment from Volkan and he works from a national price list which he has shown us each time we have paid. We have both had treatment we could not have afforded to have in the UK.

Hazel
Title: rip off dentist
Post by: Crabbit on January 14, 2009, 21:11:42 PM
I think the main thing Puma is upset about is,  the unnecessary treatment she received.




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Title: rip off dentist
Post by: friar tuck on January 14, 2009, 23:26:09 PM
I can only agree with posts about Volkan, as Mrs C said he works from Turkish Government price list, I have had bridge work x 2 and crowns x 3 plus 2 extractions took 6 weeks as I am a diabetic he would only continue work when gums were healed, I am a born coward and can honestly say I never felt a thing, a true gent.
Title: rip off dentist
Post by: The Crinklies on January 15, 2009, 06:50:23 AM
Caza, Volkan's surgery is above the hairdressers, opposite the Yakamoz restaurant. The entrance is round the back and on the first floor.
Title: rip off dentist
Post by: stoop on January 15, 2009, 09:20:01 AM
I know Volkan also and he did some work for my son (teeth whitening) which was very cheap compared to back home. I also know my mate's wife had quite a  lot of work done last year and it was good and not expensive.

He also checked my teeth as I wanted them whitening also. However because I had a slight gum problem he would not do it and did not charge me a penny for his time.

Nice chap but I do not doubt Puma so I will be wary in future if we use him.


Title: rip off dentist
Post by: ronzeus on January 15, 2009, 10:21:29 AM
HELLO,Puma is a long standing respected member of this forum.She has posted a negative post of a popular dentist .Is this not what the forum is all about ,the bad as well as the good,to those of you who like him and are defensive,get over it.
Title: rip off dentist
Post by: lance on January 15, 2009, 11:31:36 AM
Stoop if you had a gum problem why didn't you just leave teeth at the surgery and pick them up when they were done,he he.
being serious i saw vulcan last year i had very bad toothache ,told him i hated needles in the mouth he said he would not use needle,  
he did it how they do infants teeth ,while he was talking he took it out did not feel a thing absolutely brilliant would recommend him to anyone .
sitting hear typing this i have a bad toothache just hope i can last out until i go back to see him ,he charged me £25.00 for extraction less than gov rec price .

                       :D:D:D ;)





quote:
Originally posted by stoop

I know Volkan also and he did some work for my son (teeth whitening) which was very cheap compared to back home. I also know my mate's wife had quite a  lot of work done last year and it was good and not expensive.

He also checked my teeth as I wanted them whitening also. However because I had a slight gum problem he would not do it and did not charge me a penny for his time.

Nice chap but I do not doubt Puma so I will be wary in future if we use him.




Title: rip off dentist
Post by: The Crinklies on January 15, 2009, 15:41:36 PM
quote:
Originally posted by ronzeus

HELLO,Puma is a long standing respected member of this forum.She has posted a negative post of a popular dentist .Is this not what the forum is all about ,the bad as well as the good,to those of you who like him and are defensive,get over it.



 :o
Title: rip off dentist
Post by: stoop on January 15, 2009, 17:16:13 PM
Ron,

I think people have a right to tell the good stories about Volkan if they wish. I also think Puma's account should be taken at face value - hence I will be wary next time we use his services.

Lance - I think Spock was a Vulkan ;)
Title: rip off dentist
Post by: ronzeus on January 15, 2009, 19:02:16 PM
Of course they have Stuart .The point is so has Puma to give her bad story ,she disagreed and got jumped on.By the way I dont know Puma except through her posts.
Title: rip off dentist
Post by: puma on January 15, 2009, 21:29:45 PM
my main reason for posting was to point out that volkan was prepared to give me treatment i did not need
i agree he is a very nice man but, have a second opinion if you think the diagnosis offered does not seem right,which i did not and was proofed right when i returned home
like ronzeus posted everyone is entitled to their opinion. rightly so i have not disagreed with anyone but in this stead i just wanted people to also be aware,that people can be ripped off, even by very very nice people
Title: rip off dentist
Post by: stoop on January 17, 2009, 15:08:58 PM
quote:
Originally posted by ronzeus

Of course they have Stuart .The point is so has Puma to give her bad story ,she disagreed and got jumped on.By the way I dont know Puma except through her posts.



Hardly 'jumped on' Ron.
Title: rip off dentist
Post by: BUBSMUM on January 17, 2009, 18:06:27 PM
When I first read this thread I decided I didn't want to get involved, but having gone back to it and read what others have said -I think for me what upset me the most was the title of the thread "Rip Off Dentist".  To the contrary Volkan, like others have said on here, bases his fees on a pricing scale set out that all dentists are guided by.  He is most happy to show you this pricing list and indeed my treatment in early 2008 was based on 2007 prices.  At that time Volkan treated me kindly and made me feel that the 20 years of neglect of my teeth due to fear of dentists was avoidable and foolhardy on my part but he never once made me feel embarassed. On the contrary we discussed the treatment to correct what damage there was and he alliviated all my fears. What he has done to improve my smile, (albeit not a perfect set of choppers) is to me a MIRACLE given what he had to work with and I am so grateful that he has now given me my confidence back.  What price that?? I have never felt ripped off by him on the contrary - he has treated me sometimes without charge. As far as I am concerned he is my saviour and good friend.

I do understand what you are saying Puma about getting a second opinion from a dentist in the UK, but I like you, have been to English dentist here recently and I have found that once you mention to them that you have had treatment in Turkey that are quick to disparage the work done by the Turkish Dentist.  Basically they don't like the thought of people going abroad and paying a fraction of the costs for dentistry as opposed to what they charge.  I also have friends who have said that their Turkish Dentists have been "dissed" by UK dentists when they hear that they had treatment abroad. In fact one of these friends had treatment just before coming to Turkey and within hours on arrival he was in the Esnaf with an abycess that nearly poisoned him and after Esnaf mucked up by overdosing him with a lethal dose of Antibiotics it was only Volkan who attended him at his home in an emergency situation and did root canal treatment there and then.
Title: rip off dentist
Post by: puma on January 17, 2009, 21:02:03 PM
bubsmum,he also showed me the pricing scale  ( it does not mean a thing could have shown me any bit of paper with prices on ).
my dentist here in english as not rubbished the the ealier work i had done by volkan he actually said it was good work
what my beef is about is please READ is the work he wanted to do when there was no need.
abcess
root canal
bridge work

i did not need this work doing so why did he tell me i wanted it doing, if i had this abcess i am sure when i had the xray in england it would have shown up, not disappeared when i got to see my dentist 5 days later. no root canal needed either and no bridge work.
that to mean is ripping me off by doing work on my teeth that was not required
Title: rip off dentist
Post by: heather07 on January 17, 2009, 21:35:36 PM
Puma --I think if you had an abscess for five days it would be visible without an xray.
From experience they are b****y painful and can cause swelling in affected area and do not disappear without treatment.  
I believe you ;)

Title: rip off dentist
Post by: dawny.smithy on February 27, 2009, 11:11:56 AM
I had alot of  dental treatment done here, i always go through dental 1 holidays they took me to a fantastic dentist in fethiye.
The prices are brilliant and the staff and dentist are very friendly.
Now i always recommend dental 1 holidays even when my English friends come out they always have cheep and very good dental treatment with them.
Title: rip off dentist
Post by: Harmless on February 27, 2009, 12:00:30 PM
Mydent in Carsi Street, are very good dentists and specialise in aesthetic dentistry.  They are great with nervous patients and I paid about 275lira for a crown to one of my front teeth that both my usual Turkish dentist and my English dentist had said could not be saved and a false tooth/bridge was needed.
Also above Citlembik (opposite the big cinema) is a great dentist, who is very cheap and her name is Seniz Olecek, she is on the first floor more or less opposite the lift.  We use her as a whole for check ups, standard fillings etc., and she is really gentle.
Title: rip off dentist
Post by: Scunner on February 27, 2009, 12:48:10 PM
But not good enough to do your front tooth crown?
Title: rip off dentist
Post by: Linda1953 on March 21, 2009, 20:31:23 PM
Ah interesting Puma this dentist told me that all the dentists in fethiye charged the same standard prices for treatment. I was discussing this with some of my Turkish friends up here in Istanbul and they said that is rubbish he is lying there is no national price list.
Title: rip off dentist
Post by: ECHOSTAR on March 21, 2009, 21:57:12 PM
would you like to see a copy of it its in black and white
Title: rip off dentist
Post by: normbosh on March 22, 2009, 09:02:02 AM
Hi all, has any one used a dentist under the name off Arif Arslan in Fethiye.. My wife is thinking off having veneers and I think it's best too get as much opinion and advice on this as poss!

We did meet Arif and We were very impressed with his help and his English was very very good, he loves motor bikes and travels too America as much as he can, RING ANY BELL'S??

If any one wants too pm me please do so..
Title: rip off dentist
Post by: Linda1953 on April 25, 2009, 16:38:55 PM
Yes ECHOSTAR I digress you are correct becasue Ive recently checked it out however they dont all adhere to it.

No sorry normbosh dont know him.
Title: rip off dentist
Post by: Ovacikpeedoff on August 12, 2009, 16:01:39 PM
I have been going to Arif Arslan in Fethiye and I found him to be a very good dentist. His prices are excellent and he charges what the government recommends. I paid 330 TL for an extraction and some bridge work. This would have cost me over 500GBP in the UK. He speaks very good English. I would have no hesitation recommending him to anyone.
Title: rip off dentist
Post by: Crabbit on August 12, 2009, 16:46:08 PM
Two years ago I had six crowns fitted by a dentist in Koycegiz the cost was 600 TL.
Ok the price may have risen a little in two years but it would still be a lot cheaper than England or Fethiye.
I also had a tooth extracted some 3 months before the crown work and he charged me 10 TL, which included 2 check-ups.




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Title: rip off dentist
Post by: Rimms on August 13, 2009, 08:37:27 AM
Great value for money Dave, but I can beat that!

In May this year my mate Jim came over and needed a one tooth plate denture making which he had broken back in the UK. When I asked for some advice on which dentist, KKOB recomended he went to Catargay Aras in the Lykia centre building in Fethiye. (I always trust advice from Alan)

Anyway, Jim made an appointment and went along, after the examination, Catargay's advice was that a plate was not the correct solution, it would inevitably come loose and in fact he needed three teeth to complete the job properly, not just one the UK dentist had fitted. His advice was a bridge which would fit perfectly and stay in place indefinately. Because this work would have meant several visits to the surgery and Jim only had a weeks holiday, he opted to go just with the simple plate denture.      

Catargay made a new plate, one with the three teeth required, Jim went for the fitting and the job was perfect, and the cost .................. was zero !!!

This dentist simply said that "this is not the best solution for you and I would not wish to be associated with providing you with something that will become a problem at some point in the future"

I applaud you Catargay and I for one will be paying you a visit when there later this year.

Thanks to KKOB for some more excellent advice.
Title: rip off dentist
Post by: puma on August 13, 2009, 12:18:12 PM
rimms do you have his phone number and address thanxs
Title: rip off dentist
Post by: UzumluH2o on August 13, 2009, 18:09:54 PM
His name is Çgatay (pronouced Chaatay) Aras and his phone number is 0252 6148703. Don't ring before 10am as his receptionist doesn't speak English. Its on the main road opposite side to Carrefours, walk down past the guy who trys to rip you on exchange rate rounding down and immediately after his shop turn left and 10yds or 3.3m turn right into side of Lykia building. Çgatay's surgery/office is on 1st floor 1st on left as you arrive. Before you enter put on blue plastic overshoes which are in a bin outside. Very good dentist and I had an extraction done last week for 40TL including injection.
Title: rip off dentist
Post by: Rimms on August 13, 2009, 19:50:08 PM
Or Email cagatayaras1905@hotmail.com

Title: rip off dentist
Post by: Scunner on August 13, 2009, 19:55:53 PM
Total professional our Cagatay Aras (Huseyin), great English too. I can't recommend him enough.
Title: rip off dentist
Post by: Rimms on August 13, 2009, 21:48:31 PM
I had waited some time to post this information so not to compromise this dentist, on reflection, I think Cagatay may have prefered that I had made my post in a better topic than "Rip Off Dentist"

Mods, can I start again ?

Title: rip off dentist
Post by: Scunner on August 13, 2009, 22:08:56 PM
Well, you could start a new topic entitled "dentist" or something. Are you new here?  ;)