Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Property For Sale in Calis Beach & Turkey => Moving To Turkey => Topic started by: eldestblade on June 30, 2007, 12:15:48 PM
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can anyone tell me how long we can stay out of the uk,without it affecting our nhs services please,we have been told its 6 months any advice welcome thanx steve
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I believe it's 6 months as well.
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I thought if your home is still in England it wouldn't make any difference, how do these students go on if they take 12 months off and go backpacking, surely they are still entitled, i didn't go to my doctors for years, does heknow if i'm in the country or not, they still get paid by the nhs. Alan
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The ruling was six months but if you have occasion to use the NHS.....in the nicest possible taste........Keep Your Gob SHUT!:D
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If you pay tax in the UK you are entitled to NHS service no matter how long you are out of the country.
WW
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Even if you have paid tax for 40 years, retired and drawing your pension I am sorry to say that should you be absent 1 day over 6 months you loose your NHS entitlement. And with modern technology they will soon have no trouble in obtaining that info via. your passport. And yes, its a blooming cheek!!!!
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Why is it a "blooming cheek" If one decides to leave the country to live elsewhere surely they give up their rights to the benefits received there? the term cake and eat it springs to mind
Pete
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What about if you still own a property in the UK then?
My inlaws live in Ovacik from the end of April and are comimg home on 24th November so they will be in Turkey over six months.But they still have their house here and will spend the winter here and then repeat the same timetable next year.
How long to do you have to be back before you can use the NHS again?
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If you have paid tax in the UK for over 40 years, paid for the NHS via. contributions all that time and never claimed any money in council or social secutiry benefits why is it cheeky to expect that the country you own your home in should penalise you for being away during the year? This restriction also applies if you take the 6 months in seperate sections ie. 3 x 6 weeks, 1 x 8 weeks 1 day in a year. And we pay a punative council tax (at the full rate) plus still pay income tax on our pension! This is not "leaving the country" Tykatem, this is called exercising our right to spend time abroad where it doesn't keep raining all month! Re: above, don't know but I would think at least a year.
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What if neither or you are retirement age but decide to sell up and live in turkey, can you still pay your own NHS contributions so that you will still be able to get your pension.At the moment my contributions are automatically paid through my work, but Terry my other half pays his own as he works for himself.
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We got a pension forcast before we left and found my husband had paid enough contributions so he will receive his full pension when he reaches 65. The pensions people are aware where we live and our Turkish address and will send forms to us to fill in when he becomes eligible. Maybe you can email your question to them and see what the answer is or phone them we found them very helpful.
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I'm sure I read somewhere that it was 3+ months & you have to also prove that you're settled here by producing bills in your name etc. Carpete I don't think they can restrict you if you take the 6 months in seperate sections especially if you keep a home here. Our docs here insist on seeing you at least twice a year & won't give prescriptions for over 2 months at a time.
Jacx - you can pay NHS contributions but there is legislation in the pipeline that might mean that you only have to have 30yrs contributions - not the 44 or 49 years at present to get a full pension if you reach retirement age after 2010.
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This is from the NHS + website. It seems you are deemed non resident if you are away for 3 months or more or do not have a permanent UK address:
Living abroad for more than three months
If you are no longer resident in the UK and are living abroad, the NHS normally won't pay for any treatment or services. This includes people who are in receipt of UK state retirement pensions.
No longer resident, means that you have left the country for more than three months or don't have a permanent address in the UK. Therefore, you will have to obtain healthcare cover in the country you are in, or get private medical insurance.
If you take a particular medicine, you should check that it is available in the country that you plan to live in. Your GP in the UK can only prescribe you medicine for up to a maximum of three months. If you are going to be away from the UK longer than this, you will need to register with a local doctor in the country you are moving to. Some medicines may have a different brand name in other countries.
Some people who live abroad may be eligible to receive free or reduced cost healthcare in other European Economic Area (EEA) countries and Switzerland. For example, if you are working for a UK employer, are in the armed forces or you are in education. To see if you are eligible, see the Department of Health website: Other circumstances affecting eligibility.
Read this:
http://www.dh.gov.uk/en/Policyandguidance/International/OverseasVisitors/Browsable/DH_074386
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Carpete if you are a UK state pensioner, there should'nt be a problem.
A UK state pensioner living more than 3 months of the year outside the UK in a non-EEA country is exempt from charges for NHS hospital treatment in England that is needed promptly for a condition that arose after their arrival in the UK. This applies whether you spend a few months each year living in a non-EEA country and the rest in the UK or whether you are living there permanently and only return to the UK for short visits. This exemption extends to your spouse, civil partner and children (under the age of 16, or 19 if in further education) as long as they are staying in the UK with you on a permanent basis for the period of your visit here.
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Thanks Quackers and Lindacarl for you help. I at least now know where to start making enquiries. Cheers :) :)
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if your english and payed tax for many years dont expect anything from the uk! but if your a criminal or just come in from a different country and never paid anything into the system then dont worry you will be looked after, but if english people move abroud for 3 month then they get nothing! how bad is this country getting???
lisax
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we are going over to calis in april 2007,staying till october.we will be keeping a property over hare to come back to in winter,im 51 this year so i intend to work for a agency during winter months,so does this mean i will be able to use nhs when i return,thanx steve
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Hi Steve.......yes you'll be fully entitled, as you'll be working and paying NI contributions etc. This is how we plan to live in a couple of years time, spending 6 months of the summer in Turkey, then coming back and working the winter in UK
Pete