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Title: Could it be the end of RTE?
Post by: Scunner on December 03, 2017, 20:27:39 PM
I don't get to read as much news as I used to. I thought RTE had cemented himself in power for as long as he likes after the attempted coup - could his days seriously be numbered?
Title: Re: Could it be the end of RTE?
Post by: busybee on December 04, 2017, 05:29:13 AM
Live in hope Keith....Whatever he and his cohorts do, he will find a way to discredit any truth and his followers will believe him hook line and sinker.  If they are, even thinking that this man, is not what he really seems, they are too afraid to loose their income and freedom.  Many of his voters dont know whats going on the next town, let alone the in world...Those who are better educated and comfortably off believe he demi god who has given them a lifestyle and piety in abundance.  Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Could it be the end of RTE?
Post by: kayakebab on December 04, 2017, 05:38:23 AM
Its certainly not looking good for him and I think the economic ministers 50million could be just the beginning.
140k people tweeted that bit of info, read by a massive audience, so although not on main stream news people are aware, social media will be his biggest enemy.
10000s more will have been too scared to tweet.
Lets see what this weeks revelations are.
I don't think many are convinced that the judges, jury and any one else are all part of the same group that organised 15th July.



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Title: Re: Could it be the end of RTE?
Post by: yabanci on December 04, 2017, 08:25:42 AM
Maybe news like this may lessen support for Reg and the AKP.

 http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkeys-annual-inflation-hits-nine-year-peak-in-november-with-12-9-percent-123482
Title: Re: Could it be the end of RTE?
Post by: kevin3 on December 04, 2017, 08:41:31 AM

     Isn't it strange that the only ones that seem bothered about the Zarrab / Attilla trial are the Turkish Government.

     They have praised and awarded Zarrab for years but have now seized the properties and belongings of him and

     21 members of his family and associates, but have said its not too late and if he stops testifying they can have it

     all back and everyone can be friends again.  Its been reported that he took his family to the US and handed himself

     in to save his life, and certain people are enraged that he was allowed to travel. His business partner has been

     sentenced to death in Iran. 
Title: Re: Could it be the end of RTE?
Post by: Colwyn on December 04, 2017, 09:14:59 AM
I don't think many are convinced that the judges, jury and any one else are all part of the same group that organised 15th July.
So you don't think the US judiciary and politicians are utterly pervaded by Gulenists and that this is what Trump meant when he promised to "drain the swamp"?
Title: Re: Could it be the end of RTE?
Post by: kayakebab on December 04, 2017, 16:17:01 PM
I don't know about that and certainly wouldn't post my own views about Gulenists online with the way things are. But certainly people don't seem to be convinced.


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Title: Re: Could it be the end of RTE?
Post by: Scunner on December 05, 2017, 20:07:25 PM
Linda do you not have concerns that you are living in a country where you are unable to express your feelings in public?
Title: Re: Could it be the end of RTE?
Post by: kayakebab on December 06, 2017, 05:59:05 AM
Linda do you not have concerns that you are living in a country where you are unable to express your feelings in public?
Yes I do. Very much so and always feel nervous coming back in as so many have been turned away for expressing opinions.

 

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Title: Re: Could it be the end of RTE?
Post by: Scunner on December 06, 2017, 09:46:11 AM
British people?
Title: Re: Could it be the end of RTE?
Post by: kayakebab on December 06, 2017, 19:34:37 PM
British people?
I dont know specifically about Brits.
Have read of Armenian, Italian, German and of course numerous international journalists.
The high profile American pastor who has family here is still in jail.
We are frequently reminded to be careful.
There used to be a lot of open discussion between expats online.
That's all stopped.
Antalya central forum was closed down.
21 arrests in Izmir recently for anti govt posts.
Not worth the risk posting, personally, waited many years to get here and definitely don't want to leave.

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Title: Re: Could it be the end of RTE?
Post by: Scunner on December 10, 2017, 18:20:03 PM
It's really difficult Linda - I have Turkish friends who astounded me by saying they would not post their true thoughts online. They were worried and felt very vulnerable. Astounding not because I thought they were being weak and out of character, astounding that it was that deep, had become that scary.

I know how long and how much you love Turkey Linda and also your strong social and political conscience - it must be very tough weighing them both up right now :(
Title: Re: Could it be the end of RTE?
Post by: kevin3 on December 10, 2017, 19:33:03 PM




        And all because of one person.      Terrible.
Title: Re: Could it be the end of RTE?
Post by: Colwyn on December 10, 2017, 19:42:12 PM
        And all because of one person.     
And the millions who vote for him - over and over again.
Title: Re: Could it be the end of RTE?
Post by: kevin3 on December 10, 2017, 20:01:39 PM




    But what they see, read and hear is controlled by that one person.  And the free sacks of coal and white kitchen

    goods have been known to help too.      ;)
Title: Re: Could it be the end of RTE?
Post by: busybee on December 11, 2017, 06:11:45 AM
And now we have Israel again, thrown in for good measure
Title: Re: Could it be the end of RTE?
Post by: kevin3 on December 11, 2017, 08:23:14 AM



        Pot versus Kettle. ????     >:(
Title: Re: Could it be the end of RTE?
Post by: kayakebab on December 12, 2017, 15:42:33 PM
It's really difficult Linda - I have Turkish friends who astounded me by saying they would not post their true thoughts online. They were worried and felt very vulnerable. Astounding not because I thought they were being weak and out of character, astounding that it was that deep, had become that scary.

I know how long and how much you love Turkey Linda and also your strong social and political conscience - it must be very tough weighing them both up right now :(
I really really love living here and just couldn't contemplate leaving so that makes it easier to just not say anything.
My dad rang me the morning after the coup and told me to call it a day and go back but apart from people drawing their money from atms nothing felt any different.
I've had to decide that unless anything affects me directly or I feel unsafe then I'm very definitely staying.
It doesn't feel as volatile as it was a year or more ago.
Fethiye is very much a bubble, it definitely doesn't reflect the rest of the country.
I keep an eye on what's happening, but currently the people, the scenery and day to day life remains fabulous and its home.
Long may it stay this way, and if it doesn't Albania looks nice  :)

   
 

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Title: Re: Could it be the end of RTE?
Post by: davybill on December 13, 2017, 07:18:58 AM
Yes Linda I think most of the Expats think on the same lines has you,
Lovely Sunny day today,and we will continue to make the most of it.
Title: Re: Could it be the end of RTE?
Post by: daveG on December 13, 2017, 17:24:35 PM
Sunny what!!!! Big envy damp and dismal here!