The damned united

[badger]

We Watched this excellent film last night.Superb acting by the main characters,even if Billy Bremner did resemble Rab C Nesbitt   The looks on the Leeds board faces when old big head breezed in was brill.

 Some very funny one liners, like when Derby signed Dave Mckay,

 "He's got to be 150 years old,and he's broken more bones than Evil Knieval"- Having watched D M play many times I think he meant other players bones  
 Also Cloughie begging Peter Taylor to renew  their partnership.
 Just how factual it was maybe our LUFC members could give us their opinions. Johny Giles right hook was of course factual  
     As the closing credits said the achievements of the dream team might never be surpassed

   The best manager to never manage England

 Stoop no doubt ordered reserved tickets for the film premier  

[Ian]

Geoff - agree totally - fascinating viewing if you were around at the time as we were  

Ian

[stoop]

Saw it at the flicks last year and dropped in and out of it last night. Very interesting but not sure how factual it was. I met Don a few times and saw many of his interviews and he wasn't really as arrogant as the film portrayed him. Clough obviously had a big problem with him though and it looks like it started with the FA Cup game.

I do remember that Keegan/Bremner bust up though. Classic!

[stoop]

The interview that I think summed Clough up. Arrogant and out of his depth when he took on the Leeds job. At least he seemed to learn something and went on to become a great manager in the end. It was never going to happen at Leeds though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxsRt2yG8Es

[barry44544]

I think it showed the changing face of football even then.
Revie leaving shook the squad,
They were on the slide from then on.
Clough proved that his style of football was the future.
His triumph's in Europe outdoing Revie and Leeds.

[Highlander]

Damn! Forgot about it. Ah well, will look on iplayer.

[squiffy]

Michael Sheen is brilliant. he also plays Tony Blair in THE QUEEN and David Frost in FROST NiXON

[stoop]

quote:Originally posted by barry44544

I think it showed the changing face of football even then.
Revie leaving shook the squad,
They were on the slide from then on.
Clough proved that his style of football was the future.
His triumph's in Europe outdoing Revie and Leeds.

Just a really bad move by the board at Leeds. Clough had never hidden his hatred for Bremner and Hunter etc and in all honesty they should have appointed Giles.

As for Clough outdoing Revie in Europe. Yes he did but remember it was Leeds that paved the way by being only the second English club ever to reach the final and the first since manu in 1968. It could be argued that Leeds changed the way football was played in England (and not everything was good about that I know). This was followed by the 'golden era' of the late 70's/early 80's when Liverpool, Villa and Forest got to the finals and won the damn thing.

As for our game .. well ...


The match remains highly controversial to this day. Riots broke out after a disallowed Peter Lorimer goal and a series of controversial decisions by referee Michel Kitabdjian, later banned amidst allegations of match fixing in other competitions.

WE WAS ROBBED!!!!!

[stoop]

In case you forgot :


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wweh3ROiqWI

[thebillet]

How factual was it? I understand Johnny Giles took the author to court for defamation/libel and won! "It could be argued that Leeds changed the ways in which football was played" Perhaps it was more accurate to say the way football business was conducted - see Alan Ball's biography in which he tells of Revie paying him regular bribes to agree to move to Leeds. It perhaps explains why Clough in the film said "you can put all the medals you won in the bin, because you cheated".
I agree a very enjoyable film although very much shunned by the Clough family.