Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Other Local Resorts & Areas => Uzumlu Discussion Forum => Topic started by: chris tippett on September 14, 2008, 21:59:02 PM
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Popped out for a drink tonight and get back to see my 'Westernising" thread has gone beserk. Why has the thread been locked?
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Because it went beserk
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Fair enough!!!!!
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As a reader mainly rather than a contributor, I would love to know why mainly Uzumlu threads get very heated, personal and off the original topic. I like a lot of others imo, ask is it worth posting a thread on here for all this bickering, when the point is to get advice/information for people who live, holiday or want to move to this country. The negative posts give a very different picture to an area (and I don't just mean Uzumlu to this end)that is in fact a lovely country with very friendly people and a welcoming attitude whether you are a tourist or ex pat. I am not 100% sure who are moderators and who are not, but I can guess by comments made and to that end some moderators on here seem to enjoy nothing more than extending the negative issues rather than moderating topics back to their original posts and enforcing what this board is primarily about. Don't get me wrong I am all for freedom of speech but if someone has posted a specific topic why respond off line!Please Scunner correct me if I am wrong on this point.
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Please let me have an example of where "some moderators on here seem to enjoy nothing more than extending the negative issues rather than moderating topics back to their original posts and enforcing what this board is primarily about".
I would say that moderators are also members, and their views are as valid as anyone else's.
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I would point to the 2 locked topics on the Uzumlu section as clear examples of this. I note that moderators are members and have views perhaps that is where this gets a bit messy especially when their responses are off the original posted topic and imo negative. But if this is how it is then so be it, as stated it gives a negative view to some original topic posts that I would be more interested in seeing CBF members responses to the original topic rather than continuous off topic bickering with each other which is just plan gossiping, (or have I got this board wrong) if moderators/ members want this why don't they post their own topics rather than detract from meaningfull responses to relevant posts (again the locked ones where 2 specific topics that ended up off topic and negative) thus locked I presume but the original posters put the topic on for a specific reason and now find their thread locked because of this, but my comments do not only apply to locked topic threads.Has Fi got a useful valid response to her topic post, to see what ex pats want in Uzumlu, to pass onto the mayor or has Fi's post got a load of negative off topic responses and now a locked post because of this, I hope you see my point.
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I see your point but as you seem to detect negativity, so do I in your contributions. The forum gave Fi's request great interest, and it also provides a direct link to her for anyone wishing to inform her of things ex pats would like to see in Uzumlu. I also take on board your comments about off topic posts, it's fairly valid in an ideal World. Without becoming a teacher/naughty pupil relationship between moderators and members I can't see a way of keeping things 100% on topic, and I further don't see why subjects can't go off at tangents once the intended points have been made.
Everyone has an idea of how best the forum should be run, we do appear to please most of the people most of the time and we're happy enough with that.
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Andrew,
I can see your point as well. I think one of the topics you refer to was locked by me. Personally I would like to see all the 'off topic' stuff deleted from that thread and it re-opened as it is obviously an important topic to Uzumlu residents.
Unless anyone has any objections I will 'clean it up' and re-open it.
Scunner?
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I suppose the surprise return of one CBF lost soul in the middle of it didn't help - that could have been in any topic but I'll take the criticism for my part in that. Feel free Stoop, lets try again :)
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Thanks for that, sorry that you see my contribution to be a bit negative it's not meant to be otherwise I would not waste yours and my time on raising this issue in the first place. Understand the point on trying to please everyone, and also not crashing the board with rules, just hope some think before they post off topic as we think the majority could always be a bigger majority with better topic content and positive feedback responses? Me and my partners thoughts on this only but I am sure others think the same?
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If you "clean up" every topic, there won`t be many posts left.
Is this going to turn into a stoop serious forum. :(
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I didn't see it as negative, I saw it as "concentrating on the negative" :D
CBF does a good job in getting news out, and it did that. I'd call that positive, whatever came after. I'm not looking at your posts negatively, those who don't accept any criticism are generally idiots ;)
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Blimey Crabbit I am not that sad to suggest or request I would like this board to be serious all the time either,that would be boring, just there is always a time and place and humour should have a say rather than some of the past stuff I was referring to.[:o)]
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Dear Corbindallas, good to hear from you and great to know this site is read in Texas! I thought my original "Westernising' thread worth raising so a bit miffed when it was locked whilst it still had some mileage in it. I do think the trouble in the bar was worth discussing as it mirrored bad behaviour in uk
and I think moderators should delete all off-topic stuff immediately and if necessary ban members who re-offend? Now I'm popping out for a beer and I expect to see this thread on at least page 7 when I return later!
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Originally posted by chris tippett
I think moderators should delete all off-topic stuff immediately and if necessary ban members who re-offend?
Yeah ok. LOL. :D
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You wouldn't have been around now to suggest that Chris
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ofcourse us moderators do nothing except sit here all day to delete any posts that just might be off topic!
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and of course when we do, everyone including the member who posted it will quietly approve.
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No need to open up the survey thread as I have a good enough base to work from and I don't think my nerves could cope with it reopening ...lol
Thanks anyway
Fi
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I'll take that as a no then seeing that Fi doesn't see the need.
I'll just ignore Crabbit like everyone else seems to do :)
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Hi,
I agree with corbindallas. There is far too much in-fighting and unfunny peurile sarcastic and irrelevant contributions. Keep to the point and stop trying to score points. Other forums I read don't descend to this level. Just look at the number of posts for Uzumlu compared to other areas to get an idea of what I mean. This is not intended as a criticism of anyone in particular but I think it will reflect the views of many of your members.
Brian.
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Lessons in life from a man who only came here to spam his business and slag off his competition, cheers for that.
How about you stop criticising every time you post and make a donation to our school computer campaign instead? Or is it just free advertising you came for?
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:) ffs, whats happening here, help those that need help, and in between a bit of banter is good for the soul.:P it does'nt always come out that way with print, unless you know who's posting.:P
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Exactly.
For example:
1. Someone needs to know where to find a chemist because they have the runs
2. Someone tells them where the chemist is
3. We take the ****
Question asked, helpful answer given, normal service resumes. I don't see any problem with the CBF format :D
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Originally posted by manubrian, I agree with corbindallas. There is far too much in-fighting and unfunny peurile sarcastic and irrelevant contributions.
Must be self criticism.
Baz 8)
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Indeed, click on Manubrian's profile to see his 6 contributions so far, to get a perfect guide to "in-fighting and unfunny peurile sarcastic and irrelevant contributions".
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I did.
Baz 8)
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Is this a moderaters night out in Uzumlu ? good to have you with us what or where would you like to discuss tonight?
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:) I've just had a quick blimp too, what an apt business for a PLANTPOT.:P
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eh!!
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:)That was in reply to Baz,Calvin, crossed wires, ;)
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Ok i understand, Calvin
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Rather proves my point. I think if you check out the cotributions made by my detractor you will find that they are all negative, irrelevant and personal attacks. But of course, it's his forum so he can do as he wants. Just a shame that there are many people who follow this forum but fail to speak up. Always the same people with the same hackneyed jokes and self reference. How sad they all are.
Incidentally, I put my name to what I have to say and I can tell you I live in Nif-Arpacik and yes I do have a plant nursery and market garden. Please ask my customers and friends what sort of person I am. I don't hide behind a pathetic alias and am quite happy to defend my opinions.
Maybe you would like to make a response in a way that isn't a personal attack but relies instead on your ability to defend the way this forum is policed. Perhaps readers might like to ponder why certain threads are blocked when Scunner feels his opinons are not properly appreciated by general members. The expression "Web Nazi" comes to mind but I leave it other readers to make up their own minds and perhaps the (usually) silent minority will be heard.
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'Web Nazi'?
I've made up my mind about you, Why don't you bring something to the table or just leave us alone and get on with your life.
I suggest you read this thread {A Link to an old CBF topic was here - no longer available}24498
Andy Trent
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You are obviously offendedby the expression "web nazi" but you fail to anwser any of the other points I make. Please expand.
Brian Manuel
Formerly of Bedlinog.
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Tell me, why do you come on here?
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Hello Crabbit,
So, you've made up your mind about me and think I should leave you alone.
I see you live in UK. Well I live in Turkey and have done for more than five years. I think you should leave us alone and stick to the problems you have in UK. Your contributions are totally irrelevant to the people who happen to live here. Go away and stay away please. Your not welcome and your remarks are less than helpful to those of us who are trying to cope with difficulties that you couldn't even imagine.
Brian.
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This a question I would like to ask you.
I live here. My opinions are I feel more relevant than yours. What right do you have to ask about my motives?
Are you paid for your contributions?
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Crabbit?
I live in Calis, I am a moderator on this forum and I am trusted to help keep the peace on this otherwise happy forum, why you think you have more relevance on this forum than anyone who lives here or in England is beyond comprehension, on present standings you have no relevance at all.
Tinkerman
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Why don't you go and crawl back under whichever rock you came from.
To date your postings have been nothing more than personal attacks on members here who have
no interest in you or your ramblings.
Anne Cullen
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If you live in Calis why does your side bar show you live in UK?
If you do live in Calis (which I doubt) why are you moderating the Uzumlu forum? You say you help to keep the peace on this otherwise happy forum! As I said before, your contributions are not welcome here and you should perhaps limit yourself to problems in Calis.
This is not a happy forum. Many people feel their opinions are censored by those in charge. If you want a forum where everyone agrees with you, then go back in time to Nazi Germany and you will find a blueprint for the forum you desire.
Happy Days,
Brian.
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I've got it Tinx, he want to be a moderator:D
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Dear Mr. Manuel,
We really don't know how we have managed to run this forum without you, but as from tomorrow we are going to give it a try.
kind regards
Tinkerman
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Wow I missed this one - what a To&&er!