Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Turkey Related Subjects => Local Tradesmen => Topic started by: Stressed Eric on February 04, 2008, 13:53:48 PM
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Can anyone recommend a good painter in the Ovacik/Hisaronu area for exterior painting work. We've had a couple of quotes so far which seem ridiculously high. We'd do the work ourselves, but i'm scared of heights !!!!
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Hi Eric I know of someone who should be able to help you. He is English and lives in Ovacik. He works to British standards but charges Turkish prices ;)
If you pm your contact number, I will get him to give you a call with a price.
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Thanks Linda, i've emailed you for his number.
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whats the exterior paint life span does the turkish paint have any durability guarentee ie 10 years, will it repel rain ?
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You can get paint that is proper exterior paint which is good in Sun & rain, however our villa was painted in it & some areas required touching up after 2 yrs and we repainted after 3 yrs. Hopefully this will last a bit longer now. It does fade as well which makes touching up a bit patchy. We paid £265 last year which included paint. The painters did do a good few villas at once though so I assume that brought the price down a bit. Would be interested in what others have paid or been quoted as a comparison though.
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I was talking to a guy I know who has done a few exterior house paints to keep him busy. I remember thinking at the time that he was just the sort of guy I'd use if I needed such a service.
And if I remember who it was, I'll post again :D
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We own a Nicholas built maisonette, who are asking £1350 to paint the whole building (2 apartments). We've had 4 other quotes so far, the cheapest being approx. £700 inc paint. What a difference in price !!!
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With quotes like those no wonder you're "stressed" Eric, keep asking around as I feel, without seeing your property, that £700 is way too high.
Pete
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Both quotes are too high. My sister in law had to repaint her house in Hisaronu both inside and out after purchase - all the paints started peeling - had obviously been a cheap paint and had been watered down by contractor. Had to sack the first painter. Was desperate as was going home in a couple of days, what she did was to go to GOKSULAR (turkish version of homebase!) - there is a very bossy lady that runs the place - she knows all the builders/painters etc. - she made a couple of calls whilst we were waiting and found an EXCELLENT painter, a team arrived the following morning - 3 bedroom detached villa, several coats of a special imported textured paint (in order to fill fine cracks)-finished in one day. This was two years ago and paintwork still good. Cannot remember the name of painter but am sure that GOKSULAR lady will be of help. Cost of labour was about £300. There is a vast range of materials at Goksular, both imported and local and what is not in stock bossy lady will order for you - I would recommend this special imported exterior textured paint.
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whats the name/ manufacturer of the paint?
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Can't remember. But we were shown 2 types of exterior paint, 1 was in a big tall tin the textured exterior paint was in a plastic bucket type container (wide and squat). If you speak to 'bossy lady' tell her you want the same exterior paint as she had ordered for INCI HANIM for house in Hisaronu. She may remember as she had to place a special order for it!
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Forgot to mention that this special exterior paint came in only 4 or 5 colors and in two textures, one was smooth and one was slightly grainy. Maybe that will help narrow things down!
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We're getting there slowly....cheapest quote now is 750ytl labour, plus the cost of the paint. This sounds pretty good as this will be shared between the two apartments.
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Another good painter inside and outside english speaking phone (Yasar) 05347859675 :D
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Hi Can anybody recommend a good painter I need inside and outside of my apartment painted... can anybody help,,, thanks
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Ditto. I too would be very grateful if anyone could recommend a good painter for the exterior of my apartment, and also someone who could replace some exterior woodwork.
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If you look at the post above yours you will find some
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We had a few quotes last year to paint the exterior of our villa, some were recommended on the forum and quotes were approx 1000Tl plu paint, we went along to the DIY shop on the Gunlukbasi Fethiye road (past the shell petrol station towards fethyie) I the shop is Yengin yapi market (I think) Celal came to our villa with the painter who looked at the building and measured it!!! (no guess work with him) he quoted approx 700TL and that included the paint.
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Presently painting the ouside of mine.
Good quality exterior paint. Marshall Akrikor (Silicon Flat) Was pink now white and it took 3 coats mainly, 4 on the stack.
Paint cost 111 TL for 7.5 ltrs. Just about used it all on one side of the house and only the top half above the patio.
Will post picture when the camera is recharged.
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We have just had our large apartment block painted ( 2 x 2 bed and 2 x 3 bed apartments) for the first time since in the block was built some 8 years ago. It has been painted with the same quality paint as originally used and is in 2 colors, yellow and white. The 4 owners of the apartments paid £300 each which I think is reasonable.
If you want details let me know.
Kevin
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Almost finished today. Still one coat to go on the wall to the right. Its not my wall but overlooks our garden. Very poor condition and will need 4 coats. So far 110 tl for paint, 10 for roller and brush and about 4.5 days work.
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You've missed a bit by the window. !! :) :)
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Our villa was 'completed' at end of 2011 and only now we are finally in the process of getting our Tapu. In the space of this time, many parts of the exterior walls and especially the pillars at their bases are peeling. Could be that the external surfaces did not dry out sufficiently before the paint was put on. There is a 5 year building warranty. I think that much of the surface should be scraped off and then repainted with decent quality external paint with enough coats so that there is no more peeling for several years. The colour is yellow and I have been told that it is important NOT to use an acrylic based paint. Shouldn't the builder fix this within the warranty? What is the name of exterior paint that will withstand peeling in sun, rain and salt air?
Advice please!
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Acrylic paints are very popular and effective external coatings - like Dulux weathershield for example.
Where they tend to do badly is in areas where damp and moisture need a path to freedom from the wall (often termed as "breathable" coatings). Acrylics generally do not allow this very much at all. A paint that actively prevents the dispersion of substrate moisture will generally result in it's failure. And yes, I did watch paint dry for a living once :)
As to whether your builder should repaint, that depends entirely on what is guaranteed, and on who your builder is. Some will come back and some will not even if your house collapsed within the guarantee period.
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We have a few patches that the paint peels off the walls and when you scrape it off there is like a white fur underneath. I believe it is just damp coming up but I have repainted it every year for the last 8 years and will probably paint it next year also. It will not clear but it is strange that it is like small patches randomly near the bottom of a few walls.
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Exact symptoms of ours. I have asked our builder to remedy. Haven't yet had a reply. Fingers crossed that they will agree, as it seems ridiculous to have to paint every year - with resulting patchy appearance, trouble not to mention expense!
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Do you mean remedy as in come and paint, or remedy as in come and solve..?
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I mean, come - scrape off and repaint with enough coats so that it lasts for at least 5 years. Problem is, there are patches peeling all over the place - on every wall, high and especially low. Seems to me that they need to start again and do it properly!
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Problem is, there are patches peeling all over the place
No the problem is you have a damp issue - painting the outside with 5x more coats would probably make the paint failure more spectacular, and happen faster.
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Do you think the damp issue is because the walls were not given sufficient time to dry out thoroughly before paint was applied? In other words, if the peeling parts are scraped off - left for a few weeks so that they could dry, then painted with non acrylic paint ('breathable' paint as you mention) - would that fix the problem? There does not seem to be damp on the inside, just the exterior walls and pillars.
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I don't know what caused it in a specific case that I didn't see being built. But the biggest problem in general terms in the area is a total lack of waterproofing, damp coursing and building on fairly damp land.
A problem of yesteryear (but not entirely lost into history) is the use of sea dredged aggregates in concrete - fabulously attractive to builders in coastal areas throughout the World because they are plentiful, local and cheap. Sadly they are also full of salts which tend to want to leave home after a short time living in the wall.
But to clarify absolutely, I have no idea who your builder is or how they build.
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I think ours is riding damp.
We have patches that are in the same place each year.
Not big and not a major issue other than the fact that the paint fades quickly so when you re paint with original paint it is quite obvious.
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If you saw all the water that they contınually draıned off the land your vılla ıs buılt on Arty you would realıse about the rısıng damp. One thıng not to do ıs put slate decoratıon around the outsıde ıt makes the damp rıse even hıgher and come ınsıde. We have the same ınsıde problem places every 2 years where the plaster blows and has to be retreated . Its part and parcel of beıng buılt on reclaımed swamp land. Our outsıde damp has been treated and where the raın water flowed and laıd around the vılla ın places ,we have had the ground level change so now ıt flows away. Problem solved.
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Oh dear. This is discouraging as I don't really know whether I should be pushing our builder to scrape off and let the walls dry out and then repaint with breathable paint. I don't know if its normal that paint should be peeling off after less than two years. We have rendered walls here in our house in UK and they keep their good condition for 10 years or more!
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Arty - big difference is that UK builds usually have a decent damp proof course (DPC) - OK Turkish new built ones have as well but having seen where some of them are positioned then, dampness will still rise.
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OK Turkish new built ones have
Still the majority don't.
You still have avoided telling us who the builder is, which would give us a chance to answer the questions regarding whether they are likely to come back and repaint. But 10 years experience of property over there tells me not a hope in hell.
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Scunner, the builders are DeskaGlobal, previously Infinity Express. I have just emailed them a series of pictures showing the extent of the peeling. I can see evidence of recent past 'patching up' darker yellow paint.
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UK or Turkey, scrape the peeling areas and paint uni-bond, not sure of the Turkish name, I am quite heavy handed with the stuff and more layers than necessary, but not enough to make it like glass, when dry paint colour over the top.
I used this method to paint the concrete fence panels at the back of our villa, and it is only now after 9years that it is showing the need to be repainted.
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Ioz, thanks a million! I have emailed Engin of Fethiye Property Services, asking him to take a look and give an estimate. I'll pass on your message to him (and also to Deska).
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UK or Turkey, scrape the peeling areas and paint uni-bond, not sure of the Turkish name,
Does anyone know the Turkish name and where to buy it ?
Many thanks