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Calis Beach Forum => Expat & Property Owners Q and A Forum => Topic started by: Yoshi on August 06, 2015, 19:38:26 PM

Title: Heating inverter pump
Post by: Yoshi on August 06, 2015, 19:38:26 PM
Hi guys

We are wanting to fit a inverter pump into our villa to reduce our heating costs.

Does anyone have any advise on the best make/ type to purchase and where to buy them.

We appreciate any information

Thanks

Title: Re: Heating inverter pump
Post by: GordonA on August 06, 2015, 20:10:50 PM
Daikin has applied its heat pump expertise to create the Daikin Altherma range of domestic heating solutions. High temperature and low temperature options are available to suit all kinds of properties - new and old, large and small. Now Daikin Altherma Flex Type offers a unique new heat pump solution for apartment buildings and collective housing.  These may be available through Airfel, an Istanbul based company which was acquired by  Daikin in 2011. Heat pumps are around 300% efficient. This means that for every unit of energy used by the heat pump in operation, three or more units of heat are generated for use in a building. ............ Today, Airfel manufactures combi boilers, air conditioner units, infrared heaters, panel radiators, fan coil units and air handling units in Turkey. The company sells its products via its sales network of over 270 dealers and additionally has almost 400 authorized service agents in Turkey. Airfel also exports its products to over 30 countries, of which the main ones are Russia, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Germany, Hungary and Romania.... Hope this info helps,
Good luck.

Title: Re: Heating inverter pump
Post by: Yoshi on August 06, 2015, 21:29:51 PM
Thank you Gordon

This is really helpful, I will investigate the company.

Sue
Title: Re: Heating inverter pump
Post by: Eric on August 06, 2015, 22:03:44 PM
Are you talking about air source heat pumps?
Title: Re: Heating inverter pump
Post by: GordonA on August 06, 2015, 22:13:43 PM
I believe that is the more common name for them Eric .
Title: Re: Heating inverter pump
Post by: Libra on August 07, 2015, 08:46:28 AM
This is the website of Airfel Turkey ( in English ) :

http://www.airfel.com.tr/english/tr/index.html


This is Daikin ( I found only the Turkish version )

http://www.daikinturkiye.com/


Found these two Daikin dealers in Fethiye :


1 ) SELVi SOĞUTMA-HiMMET BOĞA

SÜLEYMAN DEMiREL BULVARI NO:32/A Muğla / Fethiye
Telefon : 0 252 612 82 66


2 ) METE HAVUZCULUK ISITMA SOĞUTMA MÜH. TURiZM iNŞ.LTD ŞTi

iNÖNÜ BULVARI NO 115/C Muğla / Fethiye
Telefon : (252) 612-2123
Title: Re: Heating inverter pump
Post by: scorcher on August 07, 2015, 09:02:17 AM
I know that Mitsubishi also make these - worth checking.
Title: Re: Heating inverter pump
Post by: GordonA on August 07, 2015, 13:05:10 PM
Yet even more proof, if it is needed, that CBF is by far the " Go To Forum ", if help/advice is needed on ANY subject !!!!
Title: Re: Heating inverter pump
Post by: Eric on August 07, 2015, 16:12:38 PM
We inquired about Air Source Heat Pump heating a couple of years ago.  The purchase cost was horrendous, over $6,000 plus installation.  We were told that our electric bill would increase by around 200 lira per month.  I did some research on them and found that they were very efficient down to temperatures around 12 degree Celsius, after that they performed as a conventional electric boiler as the air temperature was too low to make any gains.  So okay for Fethiye, perhaps.  As the night time temperatures here in Uzumlu, in the winter months, are mostly below 12 degrees there would be no cost saving over our wood fired central heating.  Plus with the $6,000 price tag it would take many years to break even if the temp was over 12 degrees.
Suffice to say our wood fired central heating works very well.
Title: Re: Heating inverter pump
Post by: Yoshi on August 07, 2015, 22:35:34 PM
Thank you for the information, I love this site for the help that people are willing to give.

Eric yes I think that's what we are looking at but in the early stages of research at present, the house has under floor heating and we are also looking at the possibility of a wood burner.

Libra thank you so much for taking the time to offer these Websites and contact addresses

Have a great weekend everyone

Sue
Title: Re: Heating inverter pump
Post by: Scunner on August 07, 2015, 23:00:41 PM
I must mention that we had underfloor heating and while it is a most pleasant concept, we found the reality not so great. In winter the cold that comes from a great concrete lump embedded into the frozen earth called a foundation, lovingly adorned with a ceramic or marble layer is almost impossible to heat up. Uzumlu will be far more affected by this.

The point is, don't expect toasty warm marble floors - an ever so slightly not freezing floor will be about the best you can aim for - which I can't argue isn't nice, it is. But in terms of heating effect on your life per £1/1TL spent is probably the most inefficient way to lose a quid     ;)
Title: Re: Heating inverter pump
Post by: GordonA on August 08, 2015, 13:41:01 PM
 Sam, our next door neighbour here in SUNNY Hampshire, is an Air-conditioning engineer, and fits the Daikin systems to which I referred, and paperwork shows that it  can extract latent heat from the outside air (even when the temperature outside is down to -20°C) and pump it inside to heat indoor spaces.   Just sayin' ,..innit ??
Title: Re: Heating inverter pump
Post by: Eric on August 08, 2015, 14:40:26 PM
-20? There aint no latent heat at -20
Title: Re: Heating inverter pump
Post by: Eric on August 08, 2015, 14:46:36 PM
I stand corrected.  Must have improved over the years;
"An air source heat pump designed specifically for very cold climates can extract useful heat from ambient air as cold as -20F or even -25F (-30C). Manufacturers include Mitsubishi and Fujitsu. One Mitsubishi model provides heat at -35C, but the Coefficient of performance (COP) drops to 0.9, indicating that resistance heating would be more efficient at that temperature"

" resistance heating" is basically an electric boiler.  So at low temperatures the heat pump acts as an electric boiler, as I said previously, which then becomes costly.
Title: Re: Heating inverter pump
Post by: sadler on August 08, 2015, 18:24:05 PM
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz!   ;)
Title: Re: Heating inverter pump
Post by: GordonA on August 08, 2015, 21:26:10 PM
I stand corrected.  Must have improved over the years;
"An air source heat pump designed specifically for very cold climates can extract useful heat from ambient air as cold as -20F or even -25F (-30C). Manufacturers include Mitsubishi and Fujitsu. One Mitsubishi model provides heat at -35C, but the Coefficient of performance (COP) drops to 0.9, indicating that resistance heating would be more efficient at that temperature"



" resistance heating" is basically an electric boiler.  So at low temperatures the heat pump acts as an electric boiler, as I said previously, which then becomes costly.

Isn't " Google " fantastic Eric , thanks for the prompt apology by the way !!
Title: Re: Heating inverter pump
Post by: Hamlet on August 09, 2015, 21:03:37 PM
We have the Air Source heating system, it's brilliant and clean heat at the press of a button.
No, it's not the cheapest heating source to run but we prefer it to the other options, ie; wood & oil, both of which we have tried. Underfloor heating! Forget it! We know others that have used it in the past, but no longer.  8)
Title: Re: Heating inverter pump
Post by: Yoshi on August 10, 2015, 21:58:26 PM
Hamlet is air source heating the same as an inverter ? If so do you have yours connected to radiators ?

Thanks
Title: Re: Heating inverter pump
Post by: Hamlet on August 10, 2015, 22:27:51 PM
Yoshi, briefly, it comprises of an exterior air-con type unit which is then connected to a boiler type unit which then pumps the heated water through the radiators. Various size units are available to fit your property.
They are advertised in the Land of Lights  8)
Title: Re: Heating inverter pump
Post by: Yoshi on August 11, 2015, 12:20:48 PM
Thank you Hamlet