Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Other Local Resorts & Areas => Uzumlu Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Chilliport on September 21, 2015, 22:10:36 PM
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Hi we have been seriously considering a permanent move to Turkey. We have stayed in Kalkan for many holidays and love it it realise that it probably is a holiday place rather than a permanent place to live. This year we stayed for more than 3 weeks and really fell in love with Uzumulu. We were shown around quite a few properties. BUT seeing the posts on this forum I am now very worried about life in Uzumulu. What's the honest view please, preferably from people who have made the move? It's just the 2 of us, mid 50s, husband disabled, like our own space, like eating out and quiet times.
Would be really grateful as have read some horror stories on this forum!
Many thanks for replies.
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Susiepink is your lady. If you look at her posts by putting her name in the search box top left , you will see her posts on moving to uzumlu.
Good Luck
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I have a reputation for being an Uzumlu hater on here - no idea why ;)
I do get it - the fresh air, the quiet, the views. I do understand why people choose it - and indeed I have and had many good friends living there who adore it.
For us it would be just a tad too quiet - and we aren't ravers by any means, too remote (a car would be necessary - for us anyway), too divided, and winters are cold in the Fethiye area without living up a mountain too ;)
I'm sure one or many of those loving life up there will be along soon enough to add their take. Good luck with whatever you decide.
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After only three weeks holiday, I would advise you to take more time. Perhaps, to rent in Uzumlu for a year and then make a decision on whether you want to make a permanent move.
We bought a Villa in Calis 10 years ago as a then holiday home, with the full intention of renting it out and then retiring to it with a permanent move. We found we loved it so much we could not bear to rent it out and just came for holidays ourselves, but both of us decided over the years we did not want to live in Turkey permanently. We still love our visits which are now for longer periods.
I also agree with Scunner about Uzumlu.
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I personally wouldn't live anywhere but Fethiye. It's great in winter.
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I agree with littlereddevil, The Fethiye area is mainly flat, making things easier for some disabilities, close to Hospitals/ medical services,
its full of shops, stores, markets, eating establishments, all within walking distance, and it's on the coast. Also milder in the winter.
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Uzumlu is like marmite, some love it & won't hear a word said against it, others hate it. It's not for me, as I prefer to be nearer to the amenities Kevin 3 has listed
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Now I know I frequently take a sideways swipe at Uzumlu, the Land of the Midnight Sun or The land of Milk and Honey, but that fun aside I do think it has a lot going for it. Providing you like it quiet, village scale facilities, limited - but still good choice of - restaurants and - like Ovacik - being up in the mountains and away from the all year round main town of Fethiye. It does have dolmus service, but you best need a car. I enjoy visiting and going out to eat in Uzumlu, but probably wouldn't want to live there.
Like Her Maj says above I'd also recommend that you do rent for period - say 6 months to a year - but to include some of the winter period so you get a full understanding of what it is like to live there. And BTW I think the winter - or non tourist season - are the best time to be here, it's not just about the weather.
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And BTW I think the winter - or non tourist season - are the best time to be here, it's not just about the weather.
Hear, hear, UBT.
I deliberately didn't take my husband to view properties in Üzümlü as I knew he'd fall in love with the place. And in fact his dream location is Nif, which is even further up the mountain with even less facilities.
Rent, experience winter, visit loads of other areas around Fethiye and talk to people. Never found many folks around here being too reticent with their opinions ... :D
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My only advice regarding your query is less to do with Uzumlu but more to do with purchasing. If at some later stage you might have to, or want to, relocate either in Turkey or back in the UK ask yourself or others how easy is it to exit where you are. I have heard that there are staggering numbers of properties, in relative terms, for sale in that area, how true that is I don't know I am just going on what Uzumluites have told me. In my opinion that would scare the wits out of me. The best advice I have seen above is rent, the most relaxed folk we talked to out in Turkey were those that kept their homes on in the UK and rented in Turkey.
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Thanks all o far for your advice. All greatly appreciated and yes we would rent for some months. Don't think we could afford to buy there and keep our current home in UK though unfortunately!
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Rent for 6 months in Winter. Also, there have been members on here who stayed at places in the Summer and love it, but bought and were here in Winter and could not get warm due to the house being a "holiday home" and not insulated or centrally heated for the Winter. If you buy, you need an all the year around home, built to be warm in the Winter, particularly up in the mountains. Good luck.
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Definitely spend a few winter months here, whether in Uzumlu, Calis, Fethiye or Ovacik. Much different out of season as lots of people have said! Can be absolutely beautiful though! I am surprised nobody from Uzumlu has commented on this post. Uzumlu would not be my choice of location but it certainly is for others, and yes there are places for sale there, but also Brits are moving from Ovacik and Calis. Heating is needed for all areas, certainly as the climate seems to be changing, thunderstorms as I write this which as far as I know, and I have been here for a number of years, is unheard of for days on end in September. Also, last winter was cold everywhere. Maybe not as cold or as long as in the UK, but houses in this area are not built for cold weather.
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Not a single word of advice or help from anyone living in Uzumlu from what I can see.
Thanks guys.
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They're too busy enjoying the land of the midnight sun, where you have rivers and streams flowing with milk and trees dripping with honey...... you have no need for more. Except perhaps a quiz or two, PL football at the Winehouse, an occasional golf society bash, a weekly market with fresh trout, a good barbers who tempts you with the local wine (belesh) along with your shave, a nice pide salonu, excellent draught Tuborg at the kadianda restaurant (The Scout Hut) for only 8tl, that's a quick resume of some of the good things. On the downside there is the odd swindling local estate agent (yes watch out for them), and rogue and violent restaurateurs.
If we are going to get a direct response from Uzumlu I wonder if it will be on the good things I mention or on me raising the bad points again .... light blue touch paper and retire a safe distance. ;) : :) : :)
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Should not have mentioned that restaurant owner who chases after and beats up his customers. I am sure he a reformed character now... More blue touch paper :)
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We have friends who had a beautiful stone villa built a few years back. They lived there three years and loved it.
However when they decided to come home it took a long time to sell and I think they just about got back their investment.
It's a lovely spot in the summer months - a little far out and quiet - but winter up there will be cold.
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Don't forget the mushroom festival. That time of the year when the population chase after static mushrooms. :)
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Again thanks for further replies. A bit concerned about the estate agent who is reputedly corrupt - which one is that please so we can avoid!!!
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If you look back at my posts you will see what a shock it was when we moved in winter. Something to consider.
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Ok, ok, I'll join in!
I'm not going to respond to those on here, who don't live in the village and are again wanting to stir up things they no nothing about, only what derogatory comments they have heard 3rd, 4th or 5th hand.
They are after all whiter than white themselves!
I'm also not going to bother going over old ground & fluffing up the nice things about the village as they have been explained enough on this forum.
Chilliport, if you want specifics about the village, the pros & cons etc, send me a PM. 8)
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Strange, one reply from one person who lives there, after three pages of answers, but, for some reason they will not put the joys of living in this wonderful place for all to read but, will answer in private???
I think that would worry me if I wanted to live and/or buy in Fairyland. :o :angel:
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We have friends who had a beautiful stone villa built a few years back. They lived there three years and loved it.
However when they decided to come home it took a long time to sell and I think they just about got back their investment.
That is true of most property Stoop not just Uzumlu
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only what derogatory comments they have heard 3rd, 4th or 5th hand.
My reply contained no reference to comments, derogatory or otherwise - and I was brave enough to post them in public, on what is a public forum. I see what some people might like about the idea of living in Uzumlu, but for the reasons confirmed previously it is not for me. Or indeed us as a family.
3rd 4th or 4th hand comments don't come into what I offered, as a personal opinion. Unless you read something into it, or into something others commented on (in the absence of so many vocal Uzumlu members who to a man/woman failed to turn up to help this member initially).
Strange really, you can normally set your watch by them on here.
Had the opening post been "We were thinking of moving to Uzumlu but we heard it's a bloody nightmare" us non-Uzumlu folk would have struggled to get a word in...
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Keith, I'm sure that I didn't state that everyone had made derogatory remarks.
I do know your personal thoughts on living in Uzumlu and respect them.
I just wish that some people on the forum would not take every opportunity to take another swipe every time the word Üzümlü is mentioned, ie: Jacqui Harvey's 'Fairyland' comment!
I don't see other villages being slagged off like Üzümlü is.
It really does get quite tedious and I can understand why there have been no other members commenting on this post.
I don't mind Calis, Ovacik, Olu Deniz, Hisaronu & I quite like Scotland but I wouldn't want to live in any of them.
That's my choice, but I don't keep banging on about them and running them down!
To those whose goal in life seems to be to dig, dig, dig at Üzümlü & its residents, my advice is to 'get a life'
As far as the PM is concerned, there have in the past been many, many comments extolling the features of Üzümlü & I could see no benefit in repeating them on this thread.
I stated that if the OP wanted to know specifics I would answer them via PM, especially regarding the two people/businesses referred to by JH & UBT as I'm not prepared to discuss them further on an open forum.
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“Will you walk into my parlour?” said the Spider to the Fly,
'Tis the prettiest little parlour that ever you did spy;
The way into my parlour is up a winding stair,
And I've a many curious things to shew when you are there.”
“Oh no, no,” said the little Fly, “to ask me is in vain,
For who goes up your winding stair
-can ne'er come down again.”
~By Mary Howitt, 1829
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I'm sure that the above post should not be seen as a Keith v Keith pop but was more than likely directed at the odd cul de sac dweller. Me - I'm off to MacDonalds for breakfast..... ;) The constant sniping is very, erm -predictable ?
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"As far as the PM is concerned, there have in the past been many, many comments extolling the features of Üzümlü & I could see no benefit in repeating them on this thread."
The new member had obviously not read anything in the past, mainly, because they are a new member asking for advise. It took three pages with no advise for this member from a resident, until and I admit, rather naughtily, I joined in with USB as I think we both knew this would get an Uzmulu resident to come and give some advise. I am glad now the O.P. is going to get some advice, albeit in private. Without our comments I doubt the O.P. would have ever heard anything from a resident.
I duly apologise for the Fairyland remark. However, I like to think that living in a "Fairyland" would be a nice thing to do, like finding Nirvarna and never wanting to leave or live anywhere else.
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Apology accepted 8)
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Hamlet, sent you a PM
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Not rec'd, try sending again 8)
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Keith, I'm sure that I didn't state that everyone had made derogatory remarks.
I do know your personal thoughts on living in Uzumlu and respect them.
Thank you.
I don't see other villages being slagged off like Üzümlü is.
It really does get quite tedious and I can understand why there have been no other members commenting on this post.
But that was my point actually - if anyone says a word to criticise Uzumlu people from Uzumlu come and ask why always Uzumlu, leave us alone etc - but when (like now) someone wants to know what it's like to live there, nobody helps.
Now a cynical person might draw from this, that Uzumlu members only post when there's a chance to appear defensive and picked on. As you know, I am not a cynical person ;)
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Hamlet.
You don't see other villages slagged off. ?? Get to the back of the queue.
Try owning a property in Hisaronu. Periodically all the mud dwellers from Calis and Fetulism
lay siege to the beautiful "hamlet" of Hisaronu, hordes of them, muttering all manner of insults,
and hateful remarks, primative buggers. It doesn't prevent me from posting about Hisaronu
and helping other members with queries about the place. Stand up for the place you love and sod em' ;)
Keith, that last line was ever so slightly erm, cynical. !!
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Gawd who cares really who lives where who owns where etc...
Im looking at the Uzumlu thread as get this im considering a move from Calis to Uzumlu :)for no other reason apart from my wants and needs have changed since buying in Calis nine years ago and i now love the idea of solitude and peace...
So if anyone has a good price property they want to sell please pm me :)
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Inbox overload alert ;)
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I live in Uzumlu but rarely use this forum and when I do it's usually charity based hence the late reply.
We moved here 18months ago from the Bodrum area, we moved here as where we lived (Turgutreis) got so busy and was too overcrowded for us. We don't live in the village we're a couple of kilometres out of the village. We have found the locals who live here very accepting of us, they are so friendly and always have time for a chat even when they are out herding their goats and sheep. There is more than enough for us to do in the village, we use all of the bars and restaurants and have been made welcome by the owners and the expats who frequent them. There are plenty of little markets open until late evening, we can even buy bacon and sausages here ;) There's a barber, a market and a taxi all owned by the same man Ramazan :) I use the local hairdresser, the local pharmacy and post office as I try to support the village as much as possible, we did have a petrol station here until recently but unfortunately it's no longer open. There are lots of different groups in the village for you to get involved with, line dancing, animal charity, knitting and crocheting, walking, hiking, children's charity etc I support them al, when they have charity evenings but I don't feel I'm expected to go along but again get a lovely welcome from whoever is running the evening.
It's colder in the winter but we keep warm with our wood burner and oil filled radiators in the bathrooms.
We absolutely love living here its definitely the place for us and actually some of our friends from Bodrum who have also sold up and followed us down here :)
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I've just read the later posts on here. I am sorry if I've caused a war but grateful for all advice received and the messages received separately.
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You didn't cause a war - that started years ago ;)
You did ask for honest answers, I think we delivered. I'd say just decide what is best for you - if you love Uzumlu go for it. Some people love Uzumlu. Some don't. As you have read :D
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Hamlet.
Re-sent :)
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To send or not to send, that is the question. :)
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We will be making a permanent move there soon. ( just in the middle of selling our UK house )
Great place to live. Very cold in winter though. An electric blanket on the sofa helps.
Life can be as busy as you want it to be there. There is always something going on.
There is a great diversity of people living in and around the village which keeps life interesting.
The only concern would be for your disabled partner. It is very hilly.
Good luck whatever you decide.
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We had lovely friends in Calis who built their dream house in Uzmulu. However, the lady would not drive in Turkey and unfortunately, her husband contracted an eye condition that made him unable to see well at night and he would not drive at night.
We met them for lunch one day in Calis and she was very unhappy and felt cut off and was no longer liking her life in Uzmulu, althoug they had also encountered many problems with the house and used up all their savings, mainly due the Estate Agent they bought from. (whcih is another long and sad story) They put the house on the market and moved back to the U.K. but it took 3 years to sell it.
I think they should have rented for a year first before they took the plunge and moved.
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Contact me on marshallcolin2@gmail.com for up date
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That's actually not how a public forum works
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Good luck with all the spam now that you've posted your email address for the bots to harvest.
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Oh Dear! not a very wise move to put your email address on a public forum, leaving yourself open to spammers and also to I.D. theft Colin Marshall.
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Where is Uzmulu?
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I believe it is a country in a Ukipper's nightmare where benefit-seekers come from to migrate to the UK. But that may be spelled rather differently.
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Hamlet.
Re-sent :)
Still nothing in my message box from you, spo6666
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Re-Sent again :( Let's hope this works :)