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Title: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: Scunner on May 27, 2012, 10:49:02 AM
I know there are a few fans on here and I hope to get some info  :)

I have Dark Side of the Moon (it's the law I believe) and know quite a few other songs through my dad being a big fan - but I don'[t know what they are or what album they are from. I've been watching quite a lot about the band on BBC4 and my interest is on the up.

So the question is, for someone who only has Dark Side, what album would you recommend he buys next?

Thanks!
Title: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: heather07 on May 27, 2012, 11:39:37 AM
Gus suggests

Animals.

Or Wish you were here

Or Umma Gumma

Out of three probably..... Wish you were here

Have you heard... Easy star all star's... Dub side of the moon
Title: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: patrice on May 27, 2012, 12:03:57 PM
Wish you were here definately [^]
Title: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: heather07 on May 27, 2012, 12:39:19 PM
After consideration that was hubbies answer too.
Title: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: thebillet on May 27, 2012, 12:54:03 PM
http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/pink_floyd

The above contains rankings etc and reviews from listeners, some reviewers are a bit posey (poseurs) but you do get a sense of what is worth it and what is not. It also helps to identify which phase of the groups career is most appealing to you; See Emily Play is a far cry from Atom Heart Mother.
Title: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: usedbustickets on May 27, 2012, 16:08:42 PM
In the Roger Waters era Wish You Were Here and The Wall are a must.

In the post Waters era, Division Bell is also a must.
Title: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: martinp2502 on May 27, 2012, 16:31:48 PM
Wish you were here

The Wall
Title: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: Scunner on May 27, 2012, 16:35:51 PM
Thanks guys - I will go as instructed. Appreciated.
Title: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: barry44544 on May 28, 2012, 16:32:42 PM
Echoes, The Best of.
Title: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: valleyboy on May 29, 2012, 08:12:10 AM
I agree with most said above, the Syd Barrett days, though creative I do find a bit "psychedelic" (the guy was a creative genius though totally insane !), but, Ummagumma, Atom Heart Mother and Meddle are worth a listen and also an old compilation called Replicas (See Emily Play, Arnold Lane, Bike).

The "classic" Waters/Gilmour years, definitely Wish You were Here (possibly on par with Dark Side of the Moon), The Wall (amazing concept album), Animals (Floyd Marmite ! ;)), Final Cut (depressing).

The Gilmour years, A Momentary Lapse of Reason (passable), The Division Bell (Excellent).

There are also many good compilation albums done over the years, most containing variations of the same tracks !

Also Keith give Roger Waters' solo stuff a listen,(much featuring Eric Clapton), particularly The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking, Radio K.A.O.S., and Amused to Death.

With regard to every music comment these are purely my individual preferences, but I hope it helps and I hope Dad enjoys exploring the "musical legends" !  :)
Title: Re: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: Scunner on June 15, 2012, 10:00:55 AM
Really grateful for the suggestions - and as stated taken on board fully. Decided to go for the most recommended and went for Wish You Were Here which as promised is fantastic (although I can't say on par with Dark Side of the Moon - quite). Borrowed Animals and after a few listens I am struggling a little with it  :)

One thing I wonder - if anyone is old enough to have been around at the time - the first album (with Syd Barrett) was obviously a psychedelic and progressive one for it's time - but was it any good? I've heard a couple of Syd's tracks and wondered not if it is a good album today, but whether it was considered good back when it was first released? 
Title: Re: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: martinp2502 on June 15, 2012, 11:48:29 AM
I think it's down to individual taste. I was never a great fan of really early Pink Floyd, just sounded a bit limp for my taste but I know people that think Syd's era was the best.
Title: Re: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: valleyboy on June 16, 2012, 10:24:37 AM
Too young unfortunately to comment on how the debut album Piper at the Gates of Dawn, was first received by "Joe Public", but been a fan since '71. As I stated previously I do find the Syd era a little over psychedelic for my liking, that said I love See Emily Play (and Arnold Lane) and I consider it to be an "anthem" of the late 60's, but you can't take away the fact that the "Crazy Diamond" had a massive influence on the musical scene of the era and continues to influence musicians to this day.   :)

P.S. - Cracking version of Arnold Lane done a few years ago by Dave Gilmour and David Bowie doing the vocals.

http://youtu.be/iwyEqSZz1uM   
Title: Re: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: boxerpete on June 19, 2012, 19:02:10 PM
May I also recomend you look at Dave Gilmours solo albums to very very good stuff

Pete
Title: Re: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: Sleuth on June 20, 2012, 16:45:40 PM
Just this moment read this thread/posts.... and as I  am a massive Pink Floyd fan ( have been since `dark side of the moon `)  I hated their earlier stuff in the late 60`s  .... later `wish you were here` really consolidated them world wide....but if I had to choose one album ( I have about 7/8 ish albums on my i pod )  without doubt `PULSE`  the live show double album ( or even better the dvd ) is   my personal choice and the track `comfortably numb` every time I hear that, even now it makes me shiver and my eyes water its so brilliant ..plus there are many more on there which is excellent stuff and covers most of their careers bigger and popular tracks ... one of my biggest regrets is I had the chance of two tickets when they toured with this concert`PULSE` back in the 90`s ..at the time I had no one to accompany me and  I didnt fancy going on my own .. in hindsight I would have been ok on my own ... so I blew my chance and forever I regretted it .. the concert and special effects ( see dvd )  was awesome ... enjoy  :-)
Title: Re: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: Sleuth on June 20, 2012, 17:06:39 PM
correction on the above, just checked on my i pod.. in  my opinion the best version of `comfortably numb` was from ``the best of pink floyd` disc 2  ) but then all their recordings of this track, ( like `wish you were here` track ) are all superb  mmmmmmmmmm
Title: Re: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: Sleuth on June 20, 2012, 17:14:41 PM
actually the album `the best of pink floyd` discs1 and 2 is arguibly as good as `pulse` all this typing about floyd has started me playing there stuff right  now  ` shine on you crazy diamond`  on   now  mmmmmmmm   `us and them ` another classic  `what do you want from me ` from `the division bell` another good album .. also  check out the track  `sorrow`  on pulse... sooooooooooooooo  many brilliant tracks  !!!!!! 
Title: Re: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: quackers on June 21, 2012, 18:07:55 PM
Relics, just love it.
Title: Re: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: quackers on June 21, 2012, 18:10:03 PM
Relics. Just love it.
Title: Re: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: valleyboy on June 21, 2012, 18:17:43 PM
Relics. Just love it.

Can't fault your choice there !!   ;)  :)
Title: Re: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: Stan on August 23, 2012, 18:10:28 PM
Just seen this on Hot U.K deals , don't know if its any use to you now Scunner.

Pink Floyd Discovery Box Set - All Albums for £65 @ Sainsburys Entertainment
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/pink-floyd-discovery-box-set-albums-for-65-sainsburys-entertainment-1293313?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=08232012&utm_campaign=Daily%2BHot
Title: Re: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: Sus on August 24, 2012, 07:39:47 AM
Go on you-tube there are a lot of full concerts live on there for you to listen to before you buy any DVDs, think in our house we have got every DVD and CD ever made by them.
Title: Re: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: Scunner on September 16, 2012, 22:12:50 PM
Enjoying The Wall now - still not entirely convinced on Animals but it is starting to grow on me. One thing I have found is that the story of the band is every bit as engrossing as the music. If you wrote a story about a rock band you wouldn't go far wrong with the Pink Floyd story itself. So inspiring and so depressing - and totally fascinating - without Syd there wouldn't have been this or that...and without either Gilmour or Waters there wouldn't have been very much perhaps. What a tragedy that these two guys didn't work out that it wasn't all about who contributed what, it was about what the two of them contributed together...
Title: Re: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: valleyboy on September 17, 2012, 10:06:12 AM
The Wall is a classic concept album and a true work of art, I don't think "die hard" Floyd fans have ever been convinced about Animals (apart from the iconic sleeve artwork !). True about the history of the band, Syd Barrett was, I guess, your stereotypical "troubled genius", though there was much speculation over his mental state obviously not helped by the copious amounts of LSD and other psychedelic drugs the guy consumed (allegedly), though I suppose it may have assisted the creative process.

The Waters / Gilmour saga I think can also be attributed to the classic rock 'n roll "battle of the ego's", and as you say Keith, it is a great shame that the clash couldn't have been settled more amicably, though now they do seem to tolerate each other with very occasional appearances by Gilmour in Roger Water's tour of The Wall    http://youtu.be/hUYzQaCCt2o. We should also remember we have been blessed with some amazing solo stuff by the two individuals as mentioned previously in the post (you must try some of that also on your Floyd exploration !   ;))

Let's not also forget the "unsung heroes", Rick Wright (who is sadly not with us any more  :() and Nick Mason who both made a massive contribution to the music over the years.

As you say you "couldn't make it up !", but it has left an amazing musical legacy that continues to inspire other musicians and not only enthrals fans that have followed them for years, but people (many of them youngsters) who are just discovering the sheer brilliance of their music.   

"By the way, which one's Pink ??"  ;D
Title: Re: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: Scunner on November 01, 2012, 22:23:41 PM
I found this and thought I'd share it - a real feeling of reliving a major music "moment in history". 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nuzdzSJlZo

Title: Re: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: valleyboy on November 02, 2012, 11:27:35 AM
Nice one Keith   ;)  :)

There's an excellent documentary series that crops up periodically on the box called "Classic Albums", for the music lover this series is generally superb, it takes an album (normally a musically iconic one) and strips it down to the bare bones track by track by means of interviews and archive footage, the interviews are not only with the artistes, but also the producers, managers, music pundits etc. The series covers Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon, and is quite simply amazing viewing if you ever get the chance to see it !.   :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Albums:_Pink_Floyd_-_The_Making_of_The_Dark_Side_of_the_Moon
Title: Re: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: valleyboy on February 09, 2013, 11:41:37 AM
Another fine documentary shown on BBC's Golden Age of the Album series this month; The making of the amazing Wish You Were Here album. Interviews with all sorts of people from the artistes to the stunt man they set on fire for the cover photo. It delves into the meanings of the songs, and giving insights into the mind and character of The Crazy Diamond Syd Barrett, Roger Waters disillusionment with the music industry, and his anti establishment views against "The Machine", it also brushes the possibility of the start of the Waters/Gilmour "rift".

All in all a must watch for Floyd fans.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01j0yyv/Pink_Floyd_Wish_You_Were_Here/
Title: Re: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: Stan on March 17, 2013, 09:05:06 AM
Don't know if this is of any interest to anyone. Cheap ? album on hot uk deals.
http://t.co/JVGHvplho6
Title: Re: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: Scunner on March 17, 2013, 11:09:43 AM
Great price Stan - I think I may to invest.
Title: Re: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: valleyboy on March 17, 2013, 11:51:53 AM

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Title: Re: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: bewva on March 17, 2013, 12:02:45 PM
I still have this in vinyl somewhere. It was worn out in my younger days as it was listened to on a daily basis.
Title: Re: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: donkeyoaty on March 20, 2013, 16:54:37 PM
I know there are a few fans on here and I hope to get some info   :)

I have Dark Side of the Moon (it's the law I believe) and know quite a few other songs through my dad being a big fan - but I don'[t know what they are or what album they are from. I've been watching quite a lot about the band on BBC4 and my interest is on the up.

So the question is, for someone who only has Dark Side, what album would you recommend he buys next?

Thanks!

Try Meddle and Echoes. See what you think. For me I like their instrumental stuff best. But eveyones different so try before you buy.

Title: Re: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: kevin3 on March 20, 2013, 23:10:30 PM
Re the Ummagumma Album, half of it was recorded live at Mothers club in Erdington Birmingham.I was there and the DJ was John Peel who was paid £10 a night.seated by me was Robert Plant in his old RAF great coat.He and Stevie Windwood,John Bonham and Jim Capaldi were there regulary watching other groups and sometimes joining in. One resident group was Black Sabbath. Happy days, (due to the ever present blue haze in the club )
Title: Re: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: valleyboy on March 21, 2013, 13:07:41 PM
Wow !!, sounds great Kevin, what memories to keep !!   :)
Title: Re: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: kevin3 on March 21, 2013, 21:35:38 PM
It was a fantastic club,Joan Baez was a member,Bob Dillon called in,gigs included Muddy Waters,Howlin; Wolf,John Lee Hooker,Joe cocker,The Who,Deep Purple,Procal Harum,T Rex,Elton John,Clapton,John Mayall ect,ect,I had a pint with Gene Vincent.    8) 8)   
Title: Re: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: valleyboy on March 25, 2013, 13:35:54 PM
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/pink-floyd-invite-fans-to-share-dark-side-of-the-moon-memories-20130322
Title: Re: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: Scunner on March 29, 2013, 17:00:33 PM
I agree with most said above, the Syd Barrett days, though creative I do find a bit "psychedelic" (the guy was a creative genius though totally insane !), but, Ummagumma, Atom Heart Mother and Meddle are worth a listen and also an old compilation called Replicas (See Emily Play, Arnold Lane, Bike).

The "classic" Waters/Gilmour years, definitely Wish You were Here (possibly on par with Dark Side of the Moon), The Wall (amazing concept album), Animals (Floyd Marmite !  ;)), Final Cut (depressing).

The Gilmour years, A Momentary Lapse of Reason (passable), The Division Bell (Excellent).

Also Keith give Roger Waters' solo stuff a listen,(much featuring Eric Clapton), particularly The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking, Radio K.A.O.S., and Amused to Death.


I'm following this advice quite faithfully - love Wish You Were Here; The Wall has been worn out - moved onto Animals (not sure), Meddle (like some) and now struggling with The Final Cut. Also bought The Pros and Cons of Hitch hiking on CD for the car (remember CDs!?).

Great advice following my question so thanks again.
Title: Re: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: Sokak91 on March 31, 2013, 12:04:58 PM
Classic rock documentary on 'Dark Side Of The Moon' is currently showing on BBC Iplayer, but only available to view/download until 2nd April, so get in quick   ;)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0074sf2/Classic_Albums_Series_6_Pink_Floyd_Dark_Side_of_the_Moon/ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0074sf2/Classic_Albums_Series_6_Pink_Floyd_Dark_Side_of_the_Moon/)
Title: Re: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: valleyboy on May 23, 2013, 15:53:18 PM
Philosophy, poetry and musical genius !;

Roger Waters acoustic of "Brain Damage" ;


http://youtu.be/_oC5BZdxNr4
Title: Re: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: Kevin Sowten on May 23, 2013, 18:06:12 PM
FABULOUS !!!!!!!!
(although I still think that 'Wish you were here' is a better album)
Maybe I just overplayed DSOTM  :-\
Title: Re: Pink Floyd Question
Post by: valleyboy on May 23, 2013, 18:22:24 PM
Can you overplay Dark Side Kevin ????, I agree with you about Wish You Were here, I personally think they are equally good for different reasons   ;)  :)