Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Information and Services in Turkey Section => Good (or Bad) Shop Guide => Topic started by: terrie on February 10, 2011, 17:30:59 PM
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Myself and friend went into zoo pet shop ( next to what was the cheap lira shop ) today.
There was a budgie in a very tiny wood cage, that was very distressed it was unable to even turn round.
my friend asked the ast was the bird ok, she was not happy at all about us doing this and went straight over to a customer at the till and was obviously telling her that we where being a nuisance.
My Turkish is not that good but even I worked out what was being said.
The ast continued to be very rude and we told her that the bird needed to be put in the big cage if there was nothing wrong with it.
I will add at this point that none of the bird cages where very clean, I have also had to ask them to clean up runny dogs mess that was left in with a small puppy that was eating it and was covered in it a few months ago.
Some of the pet shops are so happy to take our money but they must also be made aware that standards and the well being of all birds, animals etc need to be kept.
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Unfortunately they dont seem very bothered about the welfare of many animals in most of the petshops here, I hate seeing that little crocodile in its very small glass tank at Fethiye Zoo, and Kents Petshop opposite Migros has a caged monkey
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We were surprised to see the caged monkey at Kent pet shop when we were last there. It's also a vicious little sod, get too close to the bars and it's lightning fast trying to grab you or anything attached to you.
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Originally posted by Scunner
We were surprised to see the caged monkey at Kent pet shop when we were last there. It's also a vicious little sod, get too close to the bars and it's lightning fast trying to grab you or anything attached to you.
I think I would be a vicious little sod too if I was kept in a cage.
I personall dislike monkeys, but I hate any animal being kept in a cage. Monkeys should be in trees living with their families as should birds:(
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Originally posted by Jacqui Harvey
I think I would be a vicious little sod too if I was kept in a cage.
I'm certainly not disagreeing with that, and if you saw the size of the cage you'd be even adamant about it. The cage is the 'traditional' 70's sitcom budgie cage in size, the monkey not too dissimilar in height to the cage.
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..the monkey wasnt viscious when they first took it in. I was told that it and two grey parrots came from someon in kaya who had to return home.
Sadly the monkey took a lot of stick from turkish lads and gradually turned nasty it is very unhappy.
I tried to purchase one of the parrots but they wanted an extortionate sum and eventually they sold it to an elderly turkish lady only to have it returned a couple of weeks later when they then decided they wanted even more for it because it now spoke turkish and english.
The other very young parot was traumatised and would cry vey harshly and i think became ill but i have no idea what happened to it.
I think those three sad pets should be a warning to anyone returning home to please try and rehome your pets rather than put them in a pet store because frankly its heartbreaking how their lives were ruined.
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Oh that is so sad Hubblebubble about that poor monkey, cant someone do something and make the owners at least get a larger cage for it. Poor thing.
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Strange isn't it that we all went totally overboard about two Dolphins being kept in a swimming pool, and yet her is a case of total cruelty a monkey kept in a bird cage. Time for some action I would donate (even though I hate monkeys) to save this poor animal.
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Yes I would donate as well Jacqui towards getting that poor monkey some help cant bear to think of it being treated badly and being unhappy maybe that is why it is vicious.
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last year there was a puppy in ZOO vets that was in the shop window
it was so thirsty in the summer heat and it had no water
so i suggested that some water be given to it
the girl replied that it had a dihorear problem
what a stupid girl
it needed even more water then i replied
they just do not care in that shop
I
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Originally posted by hubblebubble
The other very young parot was traumatised and would cry vey harshly and i think became ill but i have no idea what happened to it.
I think those three sad pets should be a warning to anyone returning home to please try and rehome your pets rather than put them in a pet store because frankly its heartbreaking how their lives were ruined.
Not sure if it's the same parrot but Birhan, at Lara Vet (by canal) has an African Grey that is clearly very upset when people get near it. Birhan has put it up high (presumably to make it feel safer). I feel so sorry for the poor thing and wonder how on earth it got so stressed. I am NOT suggesting Birhan is responsible for it being in this state though. I just wonder if it is the parrot that was in Zoo Pet Shop.
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I would not spend a single kurus at that shop!
I have known of two monkeys being rescued from these cages before. One constantly did back flips as it had been in the small cage for so long it was the only exercise it could manage in such a small space. Luckily they went to a kind owner who built them an outside cage and run and let them out for exercise.
I wonder if there is an attitude that these animals are bought because they know someone with a kind heart will pay up to release them. Good way of making money.
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Ive never seen a parrot in Zoo shop, I think all the pet shops here are similar though, just as Uk was 20 years ago. That said I got my gorgeous Erik dog from Fethiye Zoo Cost me 100 tl and has been worth every penny, they told me he was 6 weeks but when i took him my vet he reckoned only 4 weeks and too young, But hes 5 this year and healthy but very clingy. One reason I dont like to be away from home too long
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Perhaps if people stopped buying dogs and cats in this shop and other Pet Shops and got them from the Animal Santuary, it would save a lot of cruelty to animals by these shops, because no customers, no more animals in distress.
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Originally posted by Jacqui Harvey
Perhaps if people stopped buying dogs in and cats in this shop and other Pet Shops and got them from the Animal Santuary, it would save a lot of cruelty to animals by these shops, because no customers, no more animals in distress.
I got Erik from Pet shop and my other lovely dog, Erni, i took from ex turks through vet
Ernie is also lovely with me and friends But I dont trust him not to bite cos that seems to be all he understands with strangers, for that reason it is not always easy to rehome a dog
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I think Tinx and his team will probably tell you a different story, as will all the members of this Forum who have re-homed dogs and cats from the Santuary.
I know I would take a pet from the Santuary rather than put money into the pockets of the Pet Shops snd help them perpetuate their miserable trade.
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Animal aid will be going to see about the monkey asap.
We did mention that people where becoming concerned about the monkeys welfare to a member of staff and said that we will have a chat with them and hopefully get all the facts in order and see what the best plan of action will be.
A A have been a bit under the weather this week, hopefully we will be able to update everybody soon.
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This site may be of use/info for you Terrie;
http://www.monkeyworld.org/rescue-information/rescue-information-turkey.htm
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I actually know the owners of Monkey World Eric, it is in Dorset ;)
I'm pretty certain they have had news of this monkey before but we will see what happens ;)
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As my daughter has already said this monkey was not at all vicious when it was first taken to the shop a couple of years ago. I used to go in there just to see him and he would always come to the side of the cage to be stroked and was very friendly but gradually as he became frustrated at being constantly caged with no exercise and being teased by the children his nature has completely changed. Please can we help him in any way. perhaps Tinks if you could contact Monkey World again and they would agree to take him we could have a colection to help towards cost of purchasing and transporting him. He was such a lovely happy creature who had obviously been looked after by his previous owners who sadly had to return to UK and he deserves a much better life than he has now.
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I wish it was as easy as that but we are going to give it a try.
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Yeah that poor monkey as been there ages. I do worry about those poor animals in the pets shops, although I have bought animals from there, and do purchase there sometimes from the zoo. I feel sad to see animals in cages, the budgies here are kept in such small cages its crazy, and sometimes two of them. I look at my little Jessie sometimes and think I am cruel, but I have bought him a double cage, which gives him lots of space, he has a tree branch in his cage, sees us a lot, and gets encouraged to come out for a fly even though he doesn't like it much! Good to stretch your wings, if someone else has bought him, he may well have been in a micro home! Good luck Andy with the monkey.
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I don't think budgies like flies
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The conditions in the pet shops are awful. If you buy pets from them you are encouraging the shops to think the conditions are ok and becoming part of the problem.
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If you have issues with the pet shops then do not support them. Pet food can be bought in supermarkets or directly from vets like Serkan. We bought all our pet food from Serkan's surgery or the shop in Hisaronu. He was as cheap as anyone.As our dog, Holly, was getting older I was getting proper advice from Serkan on what I should be feeding her and looking after her. The food he recommended was expensive but was the best. For our younger dog he never recommended the most expensive food but only the cheap stuff. His priority is for the animals and not for profit.
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Just to get it staight as Scunner said the monkey and parrots I mentioned were in Kent petshop. They are not knowingly cruel to the animals just not truly aware of their needs I feel.
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Is Kent pet shop owned by those who own Kent Vets?
If it isI would expect qualified vets to know what is cruel to animals and birds.
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Originally posted by hubblebubble
Just to get it staight as Scunner said the monkey and parrots I mentioned were in Kent petshop. They are not knowingly cruel to the animals just not truly aware of their needs I feel.
I find it hard to believe that anyone would not know that a monkey should not be kept in a small cage. Any grown up aware person knows that monkeys live in family communities in trees. I think you may be under estimating their mental capacities:(
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Hope that there is someone who can help the monkey, as others have said it was so friendly when it first went there, really sad to see what it is like now and when I last saw the parrot it was pulling its own feathers out :(
I hate the Fethiye Zoo pet shop, the puppies never have enough water and their cages are always filthy. They dont even have bowls of water they have water tubes like you get in rabbit cages and they are in the window area even during summer :(
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Don't know whether it's true (or not) but I was told by one of the pet shop owners that the dogs were imported from the Eastern Bloc countries (she got her dogs from Romania). If that is the case then they were probably bred on puppy farms and I, for one, would never buy/support the industry. It's disgusting: :)
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Why on earth would they do that?
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Would be willing to make a small donation either direct to Monkey World or via Animal Aid to assist with the release of this monkey either to someone who can home him with plenty of room or with his journey home if they can help.
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I would also make a small donation to help this poor creature to have a better life.
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Who imports the monkeys?
I was told that it is sailors bringing them in at Izmir.
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Don't know Tinks, that's what I was told when I asked where the dogs came from. The dogs in question were Retrievers.
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Well the girls went to see the young lady Fulye who runs this shop yesterday, she told them the history of the monkey.
it is a six year old Velvet Monkey from South Africa, his name is Toto, it was landed on them by a couple who returned to England about three years ago,The shop gave them 1800Lira for the monkey and a parrot which was rehomed, it had actually got a very good temperement until the local kids started taunting it, there are people that come and visit it every month and actually take it from its cage for a cuddle and its fine also when the shop is quiet they lock the doors and let the monkey run around the shop.
Terrie and Pauline talked to her about re-homong the monkey and she was quite happy to let it go to a good home although they would like some return on it finding a decent home is more important she said.
There is also a possibility of making a slightly bigger cage, maybe up to the ceiling so it can get away from any nasties: :)
As for Monkey World taking it, they have been approached before and because it is not an endangered species and also not in any danger or bad health they cant help.
So if anyone wants a monkey and is happy to have their home checked out, no children, we can get it away from the shop alternatively we can get a bigger cage made?
We will contact Monkey World again and see if there has been any change in policies.
We will see if anyone comes forward to re-home it if not we shall start a cage fund next week ;)
The A Team :)
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Thanks for the update, it's great to have people who care and are doing things to help animals in our area.
Hope someone could offer it a home, how nice it would be for the monkey to have a large cage in a garden.
Will gladly donate to the cage fund if no takers for Toto.
It seems a lot of people go to live in Turkey and immediately take on pets, perhaps newbies should wait a while for pets, just in case they decide to return home.
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Would Monkey Pete be interested?
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Anybody who knows monkey Pete in Ovacik, would you pop in and see him to see if he is interested in helping us with the re-homing?
Thank You ;)
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I know this topic is almost a year old, but is there any news on the monkey. Was he rehomed, or given a bigger cage.
Thanks
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Hi all you pet lovers I'm landing in turkey and wish to buy some stuff for my pets, so which pet stores or other is good value in hisoranu , feithye or oludeniz
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We buy our cat food from the vet by the tasyaka eczane. He is very reasonable and delivers. Far cheaper than the supermarkets.
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Always buy from the Kent Pet Shop opposite Migros in Fethiye.They do free delivery too.
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What are conditions like in the pet shops these days? I wonder what happened to the monkey?
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I don't know what happened to it Fabian but we've been buying food and animal items from Kent Pet Shop since June last year and it's never been there.