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General Topics => Music => Topic started by: kevin3 on August 21, 2015, 19:24:06 PM

Title: Cilla.
Post by: kevin3 on August 21, 2015, 19:24:06 PM

  Cilla Black has just landed her first number one album. one day after her funeral. Well deserved

  and must be very pleasing for her kids. Better late than never Chuck.!      :)
Title: Re: Cilla.
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on August 21, 2015, 20:13:48 PM
Wonderful, pleased for her family.  I watched the funeral on T.V. yesterday and it was beautiful, so well done and I really enjoyed Paul O'Grady's piece.  He made everyone laugh.   
I think it was a shame that Paul McCartney and Ringo could not have turned up.
Title: Re: Cilla.
Post by: kevin3 on August 21, 2015, 21:24:07 PM

  I believe they both had commitments in the US Jacqui but both sent

  floral tributes with hand written cards.An old scouser was interviewed

  during the coverage and he worked at the Cavern and paid Cilla £6, a gig.










Title: Re: Cilla.
Post by: Steve A on August 22, 2015, 09:25:45 AM
I cannot believe the furore over the death of a second rate singer and trashy TV presenter .Cardboard scouser who traded on her mispronunciation of words like there,where and hair for years
Title: Re: Cilla.
Post by: scorcher on August 22, 2015, 09:51:36 AM
Referee!
Title: Re: Cilla.
Post by: stoop on August 22, 2015, 19:02:40 PM
Each to their own but her story is a great one for all aspiring singers.

Title: Re: Cilla.
Post by: Scunner on August 22, 2015, 19:12:04 PM
I thought she was fairly good as a TV presenter, there have been many far far worse. Hated her singing voice, and her song choices.
Title: Re: Cilla.
Post by: stoop on August 22, 2015, 19:42:14 PM
I can't really fault her early songs. Bert Bacisname wrote some good uns.
Title: Re: Cilla.
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on August 22, 2015, 20:19:20 PM
Burt Bacharach came over to England to produce her recording "Alfie" and was so enthusiastic about her voice, he picked her over Dionne Warwick.  George Martin produced her and Andrew Lloyd Webber praised her voice.  No finer music people than these. Her voice, in her early years, was excellent, she had a great range.  People of my generation remember her as a very good singer.
We all have our opinions of entertainers, but I find Steve's  distasteful and very uncalled for after someone has passed away.  I am only glad her very loving and lovely family will never read this.



Title: Re: Cilla.
Post by: davybill on August 22, 2015, 20:42:07 PM
I agree with you Jacqui,  Cilla was a great entertainer as most people in that era enjoyed very much.
Steve A is entitled to his opinion. But I wish he would keep it to his self,
Title: Re: Cilla.
Post by: kevin3 on August 22, 2015, 21:12:20 PM

  His lack of compassion or respect says far more about him than it does about Cilla Black,
Title: Re: Cilla.
Post by: Lotty on August 22, 2015, 21:49:01 PM
I have to say there are a lot of people who agree with Steves opinion of Cilla. Personally I had always liked her but then I lived in Denham at the same time as she did - 1969-onwards and in the small parade of village shops there was a lot of talk of her being of stand-offish or unapproachable. I don't know why she went there in her chauffeur-driven car dressed in her long fox fur coat anyway. There is also a lot on-line about her and her approach to cabin crew too. It really doesn't tally with the girl next door image that she seemed to project.
Title: Re: Cilla.
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on August 22, 2015, 21:59:53 PM
Think that disagrees with all the people who met her and she was always willing to give selfies.  Even the day she died she was on selfies with some people at the airport who said she was totally friendly and willing to be photographed.
Title: Re: Cilla.
Post by: Highlander on August 22, 2015, 22:05:45 PM
Absolutely no comparison intended at all but I'm sure many, many people who lined the streets at Jimmy Savile's funeral wish they hadn't.
Title: Re: Cilla.
Post by: Scunner on August 22, 2015, 22:07:46 PM
Isn't it the case that she wasn't that well thought of by many Liverpudlians, the daughter of a docker who made contributions to the Tories?
Title: Re: Cilla.
Post by: Highlander on August 22, 2015, 22:37:06 PM
At least we were "spared" the mass London hysteria of August 1997.
Title: Re: Cilla.
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on August 23, 2015, 10:03:06 AM
Isn't it the case that she wasn't that well thought of by many Liverpudlians, the daughter of a docker who made contributions to the Tories?

Does this mean that you have to vote Labour because your Father was a Docker?   To me this is total rubbish and a myth.  Many people grow up and make their own minds up how to vote.  They don't have to vote because of their roots.   Incidentally, my Grandmother whose Father also worked at the Docks, voted Tory all her life, just as her Father did.  My Grandfather (her husband) was a Shop Steward and a Boiler Maker.  They agreed to differ.
I know that many Liverpool people came out and lined the root of Cilla's funeral procession. They also queued up to sign the book of condolence in Liverpool.
Title: Re: Cilla.
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on August 23, 2015, 10:05:29 AM
Absolutely no comparison intended at all but I'm sure many, many people who lined the streets at Jimmy Savile's funeral wish they hadn't.

I think this is uncalled for and bears no comparison, as people did not know about Savile's evil past.  Everyone who lined the root at Cilla's Funeral knew all about her, she was honest and hid nothing.
Title: Re: Cilla.
Post by: Scunner on August 23, 2015, 10:56:10 AM

Does this mean that you have to vote Labour because your Father was a Docker?   To me this is total rubbish and a myth.  Many people grow up and make their own minds up how to vote.  They don't have to vote because of their roots.   Incidentally, my Grandmother whose Father also worked at the Docks, voted Tory all her life, just as her Father did.  My Grandfather (her husband) was a Shop Steward and a Boiler Maker.  They agreed to differ.
I know that many Liverpool people came out and lined the root of Cilla's funeral procession. They also queued up to sign the book of condolence in Liverpool.


I didn't ask about the validity of the reasons behind it Jacqui, I asked if it was true.
Title: Re: Cilla.
Post by: KKOB on August 23, 2015, 11:03:38 AM
she was honest and hid nothing.

How do you know that for sure ?
Title: Re: Cilla.
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on August 23, 2015, 11:10:15 AM
I have friends in Liverpool and I have not heard this from them.  They are sad at her passing and made no mention of her Politiical views.
When you think about it, just how many famous people have come from poor roots made good and have not had to follow the poltics of their parents?
I voted Labour and thought Tony Blair was wonderful.  After voting for him, in the following years, I realise he was more Tory than the Tories.  I think a lot of people realised that and felt totally let down and disillusioned with the Labour Party. Maybe Cilla did too?   
Title: Re: Cilla.
Post by: Scunner on August 23, 2015, 11:13:19 AM
Or maybe her politics changed when she had loads of money to consider.
Title: Re: Cilla.
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on August 23, 2015, 11:16:26 AM
Possible, like a lot of other celebrities and particularly the tax exiles.  At least she stayed in Britain and paid her taxes.
Title: Re: Cilla.
Post by: Highlander on August 23, 2015, 11:43:57 AM

"...and bears no comparison"

Good grief - that's why I said that there was absolutely no comparison !.

The point I was trying to make was that that not everyone who line the streets at celebrity funerals are fans or even care about the person involved.

In my opinion a percentage of them only turn up out of curiosity.
Title: Re: Cilla.
Post by: KKOB on August 23, 2015, 12:07:45 PM
At least she stayed in Britain and paid her taxes.

And yet she died at her home in Spain.
Title: Re: Cilla.
Post by: Steve A on August 23, 2015, 12:13:01 PM
don't really get this attitude about keeping my opinion to myself,so Jacqui and Davybill I couldn't care less what you think.My opinions are as valid as anyone else's and just because someone has died does not make them a saint or even better than they were.As I said before second rate Cilla
Title: Re: Cilla.
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on August 23, 2015, 12:16:32 PM
At least she stayed in Britain and paid her taxes.

And yet she died at her home in Spain.

Yes. we have a home in Turkey we also have always paid our taxes in the U.K.  Unfortunately, accidents can happen abroad.   
Title: Re: Cilla.
Post by: patrice on August 23, 2015, 12:38:25 PM
I was never a great fan of Cilla but others were or she would not have had such a great following.

I pay respect to Cilla and her family and acknowledged the fact she was loved by many.
Title: Re: Cilla.
Post by: stoop on August 26, 2015, 15:27:35 PM
It was her holiday home in Spain not her main residence which is in the UK. I read she hadn't even been out there for quite a while before she died.