Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Information and Services in Turkey Section => Health & Healthcare => Topic started by: quackers on September 12, 2013, 20:01:01 PM
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Just read a thread on Fethiye Ex Pats. SGK are askıng people wıth SGK to go to the office to confırm they want to stay ın the scheme or opt out. Apparently there is a form to sign to confirm your requırements. No time scale given to attend . Apparently you go to the new offıce behınd the Football Stadium upstairs 1st office on the right and there is a young man who speaks englısh to help you.You have to declare your ıntentions to stay or leave the scheme wıith no penalties. Looks like they have moved the goalposts again.
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Update. The Consulate are lookıng at this and will report back.
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Visited SGK offices today on a different matter, so we asked about this new form and were told yes we have to sign in or out. Not too sure why, as the reason we were there was because the bank for the last 2 month has refused our payment. This is apparently due to my husband renewing his residency. He was supposed to go to SGK and re-register once he received his new residency. So we are back there this afternoon to do both. Hope this helps.
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Surely it would make more sense to ask just the people who signed up but want to opt out to go along to the office to sign forms to that effect. I envisage another few weeks of total chaos at the offices if they expect everyone in Fethiye to go and confirm their wishes.
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Been there signed form very easy took about 5 minutes.
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Thanks Ringo, we'll call in when next in Fethiye, strike before word gets out ;)
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We went along to the SGK office today to sign the form and were told because we are in the Bag-Kur system as opposed to SSK, we don't have to sign. You only need to sign your intention if you are in SSK.
Hope this helps.
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Still do not understand why as the Consulate know nothıng about this.
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Just read this article in LOL.
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"According to the SGK office in Fethiye the following changes have been made:
Item (d) of the first paragraph of Article 60 of Law No. 5510 stipulated that expatriates who have received residence permits on the basis of reciprocity and who are not covered by health insurance in another country would be considered under the coverage of general healthy insurance.
By virtue of a recent amendment to the law, the general health insurance, which was obligatory previously, has now become voluntary.
If you were a holder of the general health insurance previous to this amendment and do not wish to continue paying premiums, you can apply to SGK in person and have your registration cancelled. However; if you wish to maintain your present status, you do not need to take any action.
Land of Lights will publish a full analysis of these changes in the next issue, following an interview with the manager of the SGK office...." end quote
This reads, to me at any rate, like you don't need to sign anything if you are in and happy about it.
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So in other words, if you are currently in the scheme and wish to remain. You don't need to do anything ?
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So shouldn't the Manager of the Fethiye SGK Branch be tellıng hıs staff to stop rıngıng people and askıng them to come and sıgn a paper ıf they eıther want to stay ın or opt out. Still waiting for the Consulate advice.
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Today Consulate say ıf you have sıgned to opt out hold onto your payments as Fethiye office is working outside the prescibed rules. Old rules still apply you can only leave SGK if you join another health scheme, leave turkey or die.
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Thank you for posting - very good to know albeit not a total surprise.
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We decided to go to the SGK office last Thursday to see what this was all about and were told that they had waited for us to go and sign but as we were "late" they had sent out a letter and we should now wait for the letter to arrive and then go and sign. The chap asked if we wanted to be in the scheme and we said yes, but we still have to "wait for the letter and then go and sign".
So we are now waiting for said letter to arrive. Talk about making work for themselves. We actually signed up for the scheme the day AFTER it became known that it was NOT compulsory (Jan 2012) and have paid our dues ever since.
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I will have a long wait for any letter we do not have a postman . If you ever get the letter my advice is ignore it .
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I got my letter yesterday but don't know now whether to go in and sign or not :-\ I am staying in the scheme. Pain in the ass that I cannot attend the consulate meeting on the 11th (due to having to go to Antalya) to hear what they have to say about it all. It just all seems such a palaver ???
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Had to sign for our letter this morning, here's what it said, and a Google translation. I read it as you have to go and sign whether you want to opt out or stay in.
5510 sayılı Sosyal Sıgortalar ve Genel Sağlık kanununun 60/d maddesinde 21.05.2013 tarihli 6486 sayılı kanunla değişiklik yapılmış olup bu değişikler 29.05.2013 tarihinde Resmi Gazetede yayımlanarak yürürlüğe girmiştir.
Söz konusu kanun değişikliği ile 5510 sayılı kanunun 60/d maddesine göre yabancı uyrukluların genel sağlık sıgortası tescil işlemleri isteğe bağlı hale getirilmiştir.
Be nedenle genel sağlik sigortası tescilinizin devam edip etmeyeceği hususundaki yazılı talebinizn işlem yapılmak üzere en kısa sürede Müdürllüğümüze gönderilmesi gerekmektedir.
Bilgi edinilmesini rica ederim.
Google Translated
5510 Social Security and General Health Law 60 / d article of Law No. 6486 dated 21.05.2013 has been changed in these amendments has been published in the Official Gazette on 29.05.2013.
With the change of the Law No: 5510 60 / d According to the General Health Insurance registration procedures of foreign nationals has been made optional.
Whether to continue to be so in respect of the general health insurance tescilinizin process your request in writing should be sent to Müdürllüğümüze to be done as soon as possible.
I would ask acquisition of information.
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Today Consulate say ıf you have sıgned to opt out hold onto your payments as Fethiye office is working outside the prescibed rules. Old rules still apply you can only leave SGK if you join another health scheme, leave turkey or die.
Shows how out of touch he is, its been law since May?????
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Oh well may as well go and sign. Don't know what I would have done without SGK the last few months so I don't want to risk losing it ;)
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This is the actual wording of the British Consulate reply on UK in Turkey facebook page as a response to a question posed by a Fethiye resident:
UKinTurkey
We are aware that several British nationals have received such letters from the Fethiye SGK office. We are under the impression that these are the original letters drafted in September which are now reaching home addresses.
We sent an official request for clarification to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and SGK Head Office on 18th September and we are awaiting the reply.
We will, of course, let you know what response we get.
Until we have information to the contrary, we understand that the ruling applied at the end of May 2013 still remains-that is, the only circumstances in which a foreign national will be able to cease or withdraw their application from SGK is when they leave Turkey; join an official health scheme (like NHS); gain employment with a Turkish company that deducts SGK from their salary; or on death
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Everyone confused enough now. Do we dont we. ? I wont be goıng to SGK Offıce cos I am stayıng in anyway.
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Thanks for the translation Diverbaz 1. Our letter came this morning, had to sign for it, so will go tomorrow and get the job done.
I still think they would have been better just asking people who wanted to opt OUT of the scheme to go in and register that fact. But hey TiT :)
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I suppose by having everybody sign whichever way they want, nobody can later say they never seen the notice.
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Good point. Must admit if I hadn't read about it on CBF I wouldn't have known anything until the letter came.
I also read another forum which covers a wider area and have seen no mention of this in other areas, wonder if it's something just Fethiye have decided to do.