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Other Local Resorts & Areas => Ovacik Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Libra on July 13, 2015, 08:19:23 AM

Title: Noise , noise , noise ....
Post by: Libra on July 13, 2015, 08:19:23 AM
Is there anybody else in Ovacık in the AES Club Hotel and Orka Club Hotel area also suffering from excessive noisy music before midnight and after midnight ( where it is absolutely forbidden after 11:59 pm ) ?
Title: Re: Noise , noise , noise ....
Post by: Menthol on July 13, 2015, 10:37:03 AM
I live up the hill on the other side but empathise greatly.

We get a little noise from the very much extended Sunshine Resort - usually horrific karaoke renditions of 'My Way' and 'Simply the Best'.

Contact the Zabita.
Title: Re: Noise , noise , noise ....
Post by: Libra on July 13, 2015, 17:12:55 PM
We also lived for 2 years at the Lydae Villas near Sunshine Hotel ( if it is the same you mentioned ). There was not the slightest noise there that time ( 2008 - 2010 ).

I keep writing complaints and keep calling the zabıta , they tell they are coming but nothing changes. The Fethiye Belediye Environment Department takes it even so far that they reply they do all necessary controls and there are no illegal actions that cause noise in the area.

I 'll keep on fighting.
Title: Re: Noise , noise , noise ....
Post by: Menthol on July 13, 2015, 23:04:48 PM
Yes it is the same Sunshine place, Libra. And as I say, noise is pretty minimal from there to be honest - it's usually when someone opens the rear doors that we hear anything.

I wish you well in getting something done though - have you neighbours that feel the same way as you that you could get to sign a letter of complaint?
Title: Re: Noise , noise , noise ....
Post by: Libra on July 14, 2015, 06:45:01 AM
The reason I wrote this here was to find out what people around feel , hear or do about the noise. Only you did reply yet , thank you or that.

Most of our neighbours here are British , some we know are not here all the time and some houses are being rented. So I have no good picture of what they feel about the noise. About two years ago we met an Englishman opposite AES Club Hotel who tried to sell his villa because of the disturbing noise.
Title: Noise , noise , noise ....
Post by: lizdev on July 14, 2015, 09:08:33 AM
It's awful when you buy somewhere quiet and then it is spoiled by changes around you.  Our first apartment was on a lovely complex in Ovacik, with beautiful views.  After a year the builders decided to build a small bar about 6 feet from the end of our balcony.  During the day was fine, people could get a drink or something to eat when at the pool.  The problem was from around 11pm when people came back from Hisaronu and went to the bar,  the noise was horrendous for us being so close to it Our complaints were ignored even the maintenance/builders promised us it would close at midnight, this never happened.  After trying to sell with no luck, we ended up doing a part exchange just to get away from it, which led us to Ciftlik, and glad we did it.  So can understand how you feel, but our complaints didn't get us anywhere, sorry
Title: Re: Noise , noise , noise ....
Post by: jsp51 on July 14, 2015, 11:11:15 AM
In Turkey Merhaba means hello
Ovacik means noise
it was always going to happen, Ovacik becomes an extension of Hisaronu and the noise comes with it.
We saw it coming and moved away 9 years ago.
Title: Re: Noise , noise , noise ....
Post by: Sleuth on July 14, 2015, 13:21:23 PM
Another problem with Ovacik  ( re noise )  is  the `noise` of the traffic  on the main road getting  worse and worse  each year....  the few nice restaurants  on the main road are ruined by this  as one has to lip read at times to have a conversation when dining .
More and more people / customers are beginning to find it a real nuisance and off putting at night.

Regarding  `music noise`... Ovacik will never be as bad as Hisaronu at night...   Karaoke  is the killer  :-(     worse thing ever invented  ... noise volume  of karaoke  is a serious problem  from the bars  in the vicinity of  built up areas  away from  the  main  drag. Awful
Title: Re: Noise , noise , noise ....
Post by: Libra on July 16, 2015, 08:00:10 AM
What I find very unfair is the fact that we residents are treated like second-class citizens.

We buy a house in Ovacık that is being introduced as a quiet place. We spend tens or hundreds of thousands of Pounds or pay rentals. We pay taxes , electric bill , water bill. We pay for food and drink , for clothing , for transportation , repairs and other expenses... by this we support Fethiye 's economy for 6 or even 12 months a year spending a lot of money.

Then comes a tourist , pays a few hundred pounds and is being hosted and entertained without considering the privacy and comfort of the residents who support Fethiye's economy all year round.

This I really find unfair....and in the end I don't know where the money collected from tourism goes to ; it definitely is not being used in favour of the residents who suffer from tourism.
Title: Re: Noise , noise , noise ....
Post by: jo b on July 16, 2015, 10:35:03 AM
We have villa in Ovacik and a few hotels around us but thankfully not too close.

One of them does aqua aerobics every morning the music and the especially the microphone are very loud...thankfully it only lasts for about twenty minutes. We thankfully haven't been bothered in the evenings or nightime when we have visited- but can quite understand that it must totally spoil your quality of life and sleep on a nightly basis.
Title: Re: Noise , noise , noise ....
Post by: jsp51 on July 18, 2015, 16:00:04 PM
What I find very unfair is the fact that we residents are treated like second-class citizens.

We buy a house in Ovacık that is being introduced as a quiet place. We spend tens or hundreds of thousands of Pounds or pay rentals. We pay taxes , electric bill , water bill. We pay for food and drink , for clothing , for transportation , repairs and other expenses... by this we support Fethiye 's economy for 6 or even 12 months a year spending a lot of money.

Then comes a tourist , pays a few hundred pounds and is being hosted and entertained without considering the privacy and comfort of the residents who support Fethiye's economy all year round.

This I really find unfair....and in the end I don't know where the money collected from tourism goes to ; it definitely is not being used in favour of the residents who suffer from tourism.
How are you being treated like second class citizens?
Sorry if I'm missing something here but surely the money from tourism goes into the hotelier's pocket and rightfully so they are running a business.
It has been painfully clear for the last 10 years or so that Ovacik was never going to remain a quite place.
You mention that you pay taxes, water bills, electric bills transportation etc, well welcome to the club, we all pay those and it does not make you anybody special. Do you think the hoteliers don't pay them.
You mention the "tourist" who comes along and pays a few hundred quid and gets entertained and hosted, well isn't that what they paid for?
Also these tourists probably spend as much in meals and drinks in a couple of weeks as a lot of people who live there spend in 6 months. So they too are contributing to Fethiye's economy.
The few hundred quid you refer to has probably been worked very hard for and in some cases carefully harvested over the past year so the family can have a holiday so, yes, they are going to enjoy themselves.
You cannot and will not stop progress, just because it is not what you want doesn't make it not right.
What right do you think you have to stop people having a good time just because you buy or long term rent out there again it does not make you exempt from the goings on of a Turkish holiday resort life.
The only way you will escape this sort of thing is do what we did nearly 10 years ago, when we had the foresight to see how things were going and move away or the other option is to get used to it.
Title: Re: Noise , noise , noise ....
Post by: Libra on July 20, 2015, 08:36:28 AM
Dear jsp51 ,

I guess everybody understood what I meant , except for you. I assume , you misinterpreted the term "residents" as locals. I , too am not from Fethiye and came here about seven years ago. Considering that about 80% of the properties in this region are owned by British residents , can you say that these people did not buy their properties with hard earned money and that only tourists spend here their hard earned money ?
Title: Re: Noise , noise , noise ....
Post by: jsp51 on July 20, 2015, 14:45:09 PM
Dear jsp51 ,

I guess everybody understood what I meant , except for you. I assume , you misinterpreted the term "residents" as locals. I , too am not from Fethiye and came here about seven years ago. Considering that about 80% of the properties in this region are owned by British residents , can you say that these people did not buy their properties with hard earned money and that only tourists spend here their hard earned money ?
No I can't say that nor did I ever infer that. People with property there or indeed anywhere in the world probably paid for it from hard earned cash, but that does not make them special or exempt from what businesses operate in their vicinity.
What I did say was just because you pay taxes and bills in Fethiye does not make you any different to the tourist who comes once or twice a year. They too pay taxes on there holiday food drink etc. So why do you think they are treating you like a second class citizen just because they choose to enjoy themselves and if that includes karaoke (which I like probably 80% of the population cannot abide) then surely that is their prerogative.
If you bought there 7 years ago then surely you must have given a thought as to how the place was going?
Title: Re: Noise , noise , noise ....
Post by: Libra on July 20, 2015, 16:05:16 PM
I did not blame the tourist when mentioning that residents are treated like second-class citizens. I am blaming the business owners and officials ; the first do not operate according to laws and the second close their ears and eyes.

According to present laws , no music is allowed after midnight in open areas and closed areas must be isolated so that music is not heard from outside.

The tourists here are the least responsible ones as they can only get what is given to them.   
Title: Re: Noise , noise , noise ....
Post by: jsp51 on July 20, 2015, 17:02:00 PM
I do understand your annoyance, but what I was trying to say you probably are not going to stop it.
I know it's illegal to play loud music after midnight, its also illegal to use a mobile phone while driving, illegal not to wear a crash helmet on a bike/scooter. It is also illegal to speed and to pass through red lights but no one seems to enforce these laws so its as I said unfortunately its something you will probably have to learn to live with.

I wish you well.
Title: Re: Noise , noise , noise ....
Post by: davidzz on July 26, 2015, 21:15:21 PM
Ovacik is a tourist resort.
Title: Re: Noise , noise , noise ....
Post by: Libra on July 27, 2015, 07:34:57 AM
Ovacik is a tourist resort.



This does not mean there are no rules and restrictions.
Title: Re: Noise , noise , noise ....
Post by: kevin3 on July 27, 2015, 11:07:25 AM

  Ovacik is also a residential resort

  Should everyone just sell up and move away from noise to pacify a few inconsiderate gits.?
Title: Re: Noise , noise , noise ....
Post by: davybill on July 27, 2015, 12:00:39 PM
Ovacik is a tourist resort.

Seems though it does the way its going

This does not mean there are no rules and restrictions.